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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Doug Holloway on August 22, 2008, 05:06:44 pm
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Hi Guys
As has been hinted Alltec are to stock the Solution Glockner range of chemicals.
This will include Allergstop , which will be sold without a license and apparently cheaper than before.
Charley Pads are also on offer and Gunter Glockner is making an appearance at the Alltec open house 26/27 Sept.
Cheers
Doug
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Still need AllergSTOP for my existing customers and need Charly's for my continued enjoyment .......... i will be there on the Saturday ;)
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Chris
Do you use Charley's on any particular work..........I bought them and only used them a couple of times about two years ago, but rather foolishly gave them away !
I know they were only supposed to be used with certain chemicals, but wonder about peoples experiences with alternatives.
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Charleys the DBs on tiles never tried anything else but splitters and M Power may try my Pure clean next time.
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Whats a charlie pad ??? ::)
Paul
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Its a flat where Charley lives :D
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I know they were suggested for tiles etc, but would expect a pretty short life if used regularly on hard surfaces!
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Sorry i only ever use them on carpet tiles.
Paul Charleys are high tech bonnets.
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Carlton Care
I believe Charley Pasds need "breaking in" - so you using them only on a couple of jobs probably you not got the best from them.
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They're a normal bonnet with a bit of foam sandwiched in the middle, so i understand, to supposedly increase absorbency.
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Jim
If your referring to a "normal" bonnet as the type I have from Dry Fusion or Texatherm - then the Charley Pads I have are way different.
Difficult to describe, but there is only one side to be used.
Any one fancy a try describing?
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Charley’s are only one sided so you cant flip the over like others, that should reflect in there price, hope sellers understand. 8)
Doug
Its on alltec web site I want the special offer Tuesday next week
Chris
The UK License for the sale of Allergstop belongs to Solution UK! Also Allergstop was controlled by Gunter Gloeckner, including how and when it was marketed and not by Solution UK Ltd.
You have been told so toe the line. ;)
Len
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Luckily i do not have to toe any line and people know better than to try and make me >:(
Charly's on my list plus fresh supply of AS, as still asked for sprays and cleaning ;)
I use Charly's on some very long corridors and big open offices ................ dread to think how many bonnets/pads i would go through if i was using other systems....................... i carry 2 sets of two Charly pads on my van :o
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Luckily i do not have to toe any line and people know better than to try and make me >:(
Well said Chris, and I wholly agree with you.
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CHARLIE PAD
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Chris
I thought you didn’t want to be the fifth Beatle ;D ;)
Joe
This statement The UK License for the sale of Allergstop belongs to Solution UK! Was made by MR V-W only last week and not by me! 8)
Len
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Willl Alltec be selling Rotaries.
how do you know it will cost less
Maybbe you will have to be a Select Team Member#
Isnt Joe Polish coming now. They had him on the board for the dates mentioned when I was there in July
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Len
Whats the special offer on Tuesday ?
Steve
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I think the situation is that Nick owns the exclusive UK licence but Gunter is the only one who makes it, therefore now ties are severed none of the stuff can be sold in the UK!
Will probably re-emerge as STOPallerg or something ::)
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But Nick
Would need thousands of pounds to enforce is rights.
He might already have a case under the European Sales Agemts Directive
But what we do not know is why supply was terminated
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Have long since learned not to get into arguments on taking sides in disputes that don't concern me ........... i use what i want to supply to my customers.
I know what the regulars like and what the new ones are looking for so i use whatever that requires ;)
Charly's make my life easier and my customers happy so i will buy from wherever available............. same with AllergSTOP ::)
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Solution,
Now have a product called" allergy- out " same claims as allergenstop.
Whats the difference? just the name!! or is it the same formulation ?
How ironic, Alltec now have Gunter, and solutions have safeclean .
was it half time ? all change around ;D ;)
Geoff
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Chris I like your first sentence, if only it were true ;D but you are right, if you like a product and someone else sells it why cut your nose off to spite your face?
Obviously SolutionsUK weren't selling enough of it so they and Gunther have parted that's good business isn't it?
Shaun
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Learning to stay quiet or wait a bit before i get involved :-X
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At least it looks like Alltec are going to make the product accessible.
From what I understand so far there is no initial fee AND it will be cheaper. From that angle it is worth trying or at least having some on board as an up-sell opportunity.
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Has anyone tried the Masterblend range compared to Allergenstop stuff. Seems to be very popular on US forums and even includes a laundry wash that you can sell to clients.
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Hydramaster sell Masterblend.
Shaun
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They're a normal bonnet with a bit of foam sandwiched in the middle, so i understand, to supposedly increase absorbency.
The word 'supposedly' is very important here because in my experience these things are vertually non absorbant compared to cotton pads, and the amount of water they throw out over about 12 inches has to be seen.
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Maybe when used incorrectly ......... never seen that myself, do you use wringer bucket or wring by hand ???
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Used the wringer as supplied with the pads care of solutions, that was a joke because the wringer wasn't up to the job and kept slipping it's gears.
But not to worry because at a previous CCDO I was shown by 'An Expert' how to wring them out by hand. I use the word wring 'loosely' because that's exactly what it was.....hardly at all.....hence the water flying out 12 inches in a 360 degree circle.
So which way is it? Wring them out to an inch of their lives or leave quite wet?
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Happy medium I'd have thought, the same with DF pads, in the early days of DF I was using them drenched then Uncle Ken said on some areas he just sprayed the bonet it's just a 'see where it takes you' moment.
Chris when using Charlie pads do you spray carpet first then use pad with solution on?
Shaun
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Neil Charleys on very Low Profile especially carpet tiles have made me £1000s,
all for £100 and the price of a Numatic ;) allternative systems cost 1000s :(
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Neil Charleys on very Low Profile especially carpet tiles have made me £1000s,
all for £100 and the price of a Numatic ;) allternative systems cost 1000s :(
So do you wring them right out or hand wring so they stay quite wet?
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Learning to stay quiet or wait a bit before i get involved :-X
Imagine if everyone did that, Chris.
Wouldn't be much action on this board then
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Steve B
I don’t do special offers.
Ian
I know how much some one else was selling them for, plus as I said one sided so the sums need doing 1 set = two pads = £’s how many say for example Craftex standard pad can I get for that and they are double sided! Plus should expect a discount for volume. I do hope this is taken in to consideration when they price it! Hopefully when I phone them Tuesday they wont start laughing as they did on two other occasions.
Jim
Check out there web site it their
Geoff
Most if not all franchisees buy a limited amount to keep the franchisor happy and decamp other into their branded container, also franchisors swap and change suppliers.
Neil
It’s called centrifugal force, even worse with a higher rpm then you need a skirt, never had a problem using them hand rung, wringer buckets weren’t invented then, perhaps that was an other innovation, found a use for the builders buckets now called pre-spay unit volume 70lts beats any pump up and its ugly but that in the design stage
Chris
Why not a fantastic battle a few years ago, now who is working for whom?
Len
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Neil use a wringer bucket ring out the sides thoroughly leave center wet water spreads.
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I spray carpets but have bit of MP in bucket water ................. wring out enough so i do not have water spraying everywhere!! :o
Len ........ close call on holiday where i nearly hospitalised fella about to join Portugese Air Force plus his 2 teenage mates ........... learning to think first (not fist) before i rush in :o Nearly had longer stay in Algarve Prison :-X
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Len
Am I losing the plot here or what ? :)
Your reply to Doug earlier on this topic - "I want the special offer Tuesday next week".
Thats why I asked what is the special offer - not do you do special offers ! ;D
Steve
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It's Len's eccentricity he's royalty in his part of the world ;D
Shaun
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Chris
Are you sure? Violence begets Violence, but I know what you mean. ;)
Steve B
I did jump the gun, bit like the Olympics I wont know till Tuesday but did asked them to phone me on their arrival it appears from the post I’ve got to wait a month so a pre-emptive strike. ;D
Shaun
Only a rook better than being a pawn and of more value than Billy the queen ;)
Len
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Len ............. harrassing my 14 yr old daughter to tears then mouthing off to my wife, qualified this group of 3 lads as candidates for 're-educating' They did not like the lesson i was imparting and one made quick move, sadly we were by pool and when i corrected his position, he fell head first into 'pilots' face !!! End result was one black eye, one sore head and other one almost wet himself .......... 3 almost 6 foot lads of 16, 18 & 21 !!!!
Manager of apartments was going to call police but my 4th year there so he was prepared to take my word on incident, did get visit from 16 yr olds father and he dragged his lad to bar to apologise. Language aside, we all know where we stood and last week was uneventful........... seems shouting that you will put their face through the back of their head with a finger pointing up the nose ........... NEEDS NO TRANSLATING :o
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Make you right Chris
You must be mellowing - I doubt if I would even have given a warning under the circumstances >:(
Steve
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Stormed in without finding out which of the 3 was to blame ........saw it as best to warn the lot and see which one got flustered the most ............ two and a half birds with one stone ;)
Only witnessed and heard by about 100 people and strangely, i never had trouble getting served in bar after that ;D
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Call me paranoid and xenophobic, but I always assume somones carrying a blade, especially johnny foreigner.
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Highly unlikely in swimming pool wearing shorts ;D
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Chris
You'd be suprised where they can hide them. ;D
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One wore Speedos so it would have to have been a very small blade !!
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Anyone who wears Speedos these days deserves a good kicking. Saw a bloke wearing a thong last year in Croatia, now he should have been arrested.
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If he was hiding a blade I wouldn't want to be touching that!
Look like he'd butter marmite.
Shaun
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are charly pads on the alltec website?
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Cant see any of the solution products on there yet.
Bob