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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: magic1 on August 22, 2008, 02:05:59 pm
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my website is www.ncsforspotlesswindows.co.uk
what are your thoughts?
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looks good but you need to sort some tags out, (title & meta mainly). search for SEO tips in google, this will help people find your site over the net. its no good if no body can find it. Not a dig, just advice.
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doing that as you speak. should be done by end of next week. had website done so its on leaflets for custys to check out. save going back asking if there interested. especially if there in the sticks.
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anyone else? just wondering money spent well ?
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It's certainly not money badly spent, you could have spent a lot more and you could have spent a lot less. It looks good and even if it doesn't attract a lot of hits it will make your business look a lot more professional. I personally use mine as a secondary business card.
Mine cost me £6.10 for 2 years, I host it on my isp as almost all isp's will give you free web space, and I built it with a easy to use program called iweb. £6.10 is a lot cheaper than £95 but then £95 is a lot cheaper than £1000 which is what some were paying for websites when the .com boom took hold.
I like the black and white pics, they'll make the photo's a bit more less likely to date.
Simon.
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Hi looks good but i don't agree with this bit.
Frames must be uPVC in order to be washed effectively
I would'nt use that statement may put poeple off with wooden frames and i have some very posh houses with wooden frames.
But just my thoughts .
Regards
martin
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Get rid of the man using the brush (top right hand side)
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i know a man who knows a man who knows a man a contract killer do you need him to get rid of the man in the pic?
joke cool site dudeGet rid of the man using the brush (top right hand side)
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Marcus Norton
Cleanitup God
« Reply #7 on: Today at 08:40:44pm »
Get rid of the man using the brush (top right hand side)
why? on all my leaflets and cards.
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Put in a payments page as it's another way of collecting for the future when cheques are becoming more obsolete. :)
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i think your website is very good ;)
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Looks good.
Did you pay £95 to have it designed or to host it?
£95 to have a 5 page website designed is really cheap if you ask me.
Did they sting you on hosting fees to compensate?
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£95 is for everything except registering domain name.
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www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=519505;topic=60472.0;num_replies=9;sesc=7de77826b5c05e6c03463554778bf02a
cant view the link your asking me to have a look at.
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looks good but you need to sort some tags out, (title & meta mainly). search for SEO tips in google, this will help people find your site over the net. its no good if no body can find it. Not a dig, just advice.
You do need tags, and you can use a free meta tag generator, and analyzer here,
www.seoforum.info/showthread.php?t=2831
But dont get overly concerned because all though once upon a time they were the main credential for search engine ranking, there are alot of other factors now, one of which being "backlinks", linking your site to related sites, preferably with a higher ranking than yours, this is one of the best ways to optimize for google etc, I am working on mine this week, and read up ALOT and seems this is the best way, the more links, the more google sees your site, and the more rank it gets, do a google search for backlinks.
Sean
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looks good but you need to sort some tags out, (title & meta mainly). search for SEO tips in google, this will help people find your site over the net. its no good if no body can find it. Not a dig, just advice.
You do need tags, and you can use a free meta tag generator, and analyzer here,
www.seoforum.info/showthread.php?t=2831
But dont get overly concerned because all though once upon a time they were the main credential for search engine ranking, there are alot of other factors now, one of which being "backlinks", linking your site to related sites, preferably with a higher ranking than yours, this is one of the best ways to optimize for google etc, I am working on mine this week, and read up ALOT and seems this is the best way, the more links, the more google sees your site, and the more rank it gets, do a google search for backlinks.
Sean
just telling him the place to start. 1 way links, h1 etc tags, but most of all content are al very relevent.
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I think it looks great - money well spent.
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nice website.. i like it. great value for money.
i couldnt help but notice, in your photo of you cleaning the window... do you pull a little bit of each section out.. to clean an upstairs window?
i may be wrong but i think its makes for heavier work...
sorry to change the theme.... i just noticed it and felt like asking. :D
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Very good set of terms and conditions, not overly done but still concise and perfectly adequate for your own benefit.
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£95 is for everything except registering domain name.
In that case can't go wrong at £95!
Whether people see it though that makes it value for money or not. Get it listed on a few directories.
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Thanks for all the advise guys. photos proived by the designer, www.studioarts-dtv.co.uk
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Superb site mate!
Websites ain't worth spending loads on so I make you right! 8)
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looks good but you need to sort some tags out, (title & meta mainly). search for SEO tips in google, this will help people find your site over the net. its no good if no body can find it. Not a dig, just advice.
Very good advice, but for £95 thats what you get, I have about 20000 templates I can sell for £90 each if anyone wants one saves my a load of time and makes more money if I am totally honest, it is something I am looking at as bespoke sites many just go for price even if it is not going to work others know they need to get it right ;) ::)
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looks good but you need to sort some tags out, (title & meta mainly). search for SEO tips in google, this will help people find your site over the net. its no good if no body can find it. Not a dig, just advice.
Very good advice, but for £95 thats what you get, I have about 20000 templates I can sell for £90 each if anyone wants one saves my a load of time and makes more money if I am totally honest, it is something I am looking at as bespoke sites many just go for price even if it is not going to work others know they need to get it right ;) ::)
still a nice website.. just because its not done with the most amount of money spent does not mean it wont be effective.....
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you can pay £10,0000 for van and have the same problems as someone who paid 3k
i reckon you can have a nice website... for a nominal fee and dont have to have all the fancy gadets... basic info of what you provide is adequate...
then try and make sure you get enough traffic.... but in all honesty... traffic in our business will be few and far between.... i think a website will be a secondary thing people will glance at..... after seeing your name and number somewhere else... on .. leafket/ van / advertisement elsewhere etc.
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you can pay £10,0000 for van and have the same problems as someone who paid 3k
i reckon you can have a nice website... for a nominal fee and dont have to have all the fancy gadets... basic info of what you provide is adequate...
then try and make sure you get enough traffic.... but in all honesty... traffic in our business will be few and far between.... i think a website will be a secondary thing people will glance at..... after seeing your name and number somewhere else... on .. leafket/ van / advertisement elsewhere etc.
What you have put on the last part is so so wrong in so many ways for marketing.
I am not having a pop, but please dont tell others things thats are clearly wrong as it is not going to help them m8 ;)
Ian
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window washers how much is a price for a right good website mate ?
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no .. i am right bud.... people who want a window cleaner,,, will look in the yellow pages... thompson local.... read your advert in the local paper... or read your leaflet...
the last thing they will do in our business is look at a website ... and its the very last thing they will do..
probably after the window cleaner in question is already hired... and that may be if they are bored...
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i mean ,, come on.... if i want a window cleaner .. i will be no more impressed if he has a website or not.... and i certainly would not be able to tell if he was more professional .. because he paid a grand .. as opposed to a ton.
Now an online shop is a different kettle of fish.... please dont say we are the same as them.... as its an added extra for window cleaners..
an assed extra that if we get somrthing from it.. its a bonus.!
its the internet... it was not here 20 years ago.... so i cant be that wrong.
also , if you are saying that my last part of my last message is wrong.... then why?
you need traffic to make any website work.
you, more than anyone should be promoting that.... m8.
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it was not here 20 years ago.... so i cant be that wrong.
you are so wrong! advertising media has moved on. i will not spend no real money on hard copy advertising anymore. the website is not a secondary resource, it is a powerful advertising media when done right. You need to spend money to get it right if you don't know what you are doing. If you don't it will fail and it will more than likely not be working effectivley as it should be. you will not see the benefits, then right it off while others are coining it in on there. don't be so naive. Google is the most effective advertising medium there is now, simple as really!
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Have to agree with Steve on this one, I have a very good site www.smart-cleaning.com and the amount of work I get as paid for it over and over again, think about it! a PC is in most homes and offices
Andy
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in certain areas yes... but you are so wrong to say websites in our business is the most powerful advertising tool....
look at the statistics... you obviously are looking into media statistics..
i have many ,many colleagues who have websites... and in much more lucrative businises than window cleaning....and the websites are very , very low on the scale of business gained....
the most obvious a, and most powerful tool is word of mouth.. then comes door knocking, then advertising in any press.... which is 95% more affective than someone.. by chance looking at your webpage!...... then comes van signs and leafletting....
the internet is a valid tool.... but not in our game ... not at all....
If i decided to put it plainly like this...
" oh i need a window cleaner... i know , i will look it up on the internet , see who is near me.."
the % of people who do that... in our trade is minimal....
the internet and a website.. for domestic cleans is an added extra, to look more professional.... and if you get an odd customer .. all the better.
im not naive... im reaistic..... the internet is still new..... and the old methods of advertising in our game, are by far the most affective...
and probably always will be.
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If you think you can build a WC business on a website then you are either wrong or you`ve been sold to by a good salesman,unless your prepared to travel miles and i mean miles to service any if any customers gained and even then there be few and far between.The way certain people on here set it up it makes them money and mainly only them.
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Sorry, magic...
nice website like i said....
just dont like people saying , you get what you pay for...
thats a good step you have taken and a nice added extra to your business.
Take care.
Gary.
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in certain areas yes... but you are so wrong to say websites in our business is the most powerful advertising tool....
look at the statistics... you obviously are looking into media statistics..
i have many ,many colleagues who have websites... and in much more lucrative businises than window cleaning....and the websites are very , very low on the scale of business gained....
the most obvious a, and most powerful tool is word of mouth.. then comes door knocking, then advertising in any press.... which is 95% more affective than someone.. by chance looking at your webpage!...... then comes van signs and leafletting....
the internet is a valid tool.... but not in our game ... not at all....
If i decided to put it plainly like this...
" oh i need a window cleaner... i know , i will look it up on the internet , see who is near me.."
the % of people who do that... in our trade is minimal....
the internet and a website.. for domestic cleans is an added extra, to look more professional.... and if you get an odd customer .. all the better.
im not naive... im reaistic..... the internet is still new..... and the old methods of advertising in our game, are by far the most affective...
and probably always will be.
you simply haven't experienced a decent website, your view would change! i don't target domestics with my sites really but i get lots of enquires about it all the time! i have had some gem commercial contracts through my sites. that i never would of got if my site was never there.
I have tried allsorts of advertising. being proactive and canvassing will force you more work. of course it will but as an advertsing medium the internet is number 1. you just need to make it work, thats all! ;)
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If you think you can build a WC business on a website then you are either wrong or you`ve been sold to by a good salesman,unless your prepared to travel miles and i mean miles to service any if any customers gained and even then there be few and far between.The way certain people on here set it up it makes them money and mainly only them.
BANG ON BUD.
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gazza i think you talk a lot of rubbish
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Of course i have experienced decent websites,, my brother does the whole thing for a living, sets them up all over the world, he is rarely in england,
i dont need him to tell me (although i value his advice as he does not try to make money out of me with a sales pitch)
but there are certain businesses who may make google a directory pointer to any given website, and feel the benefit of extra trade.... but it has to be an extra in window cleaning..... similar to a leaflet in your local post office...
nothing more.
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Of course i have experienced decent websites,, my brother does the whole thing for a living, sets them up all over the world, he is rarely in england,
i dont need him to tell me (although i value his advice as he does not try to make money out of me with a sales pitch)
but there are certain businesses who may make google a directory pointer to any given website, and feel the benefit of extra trade.... but it has to be an extra in window cleaning..... similar to a leaflet in your local post office...
nothing more.
empty boxes make the loudest noises
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gazza i think you talk a lot of rubbish
really... then you need to go to college then mate and start to study some hard facts.
because your inputs are the ones without any thought
but i did not have to tell you that did i?
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well simon.. if you have to butt in... why not make it constructive.... if you understand that word.
trying to have a decent constructive debate over websites, if you have nothing better to say, then please go out and play or something. ;D
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Think you may need to add more..
1st point.... i dont lie.
2nd point... he travels all over the world. fact....
3rd point...he dont just do sites for people he does everything regarding pcs.
now i dont like being called a liar and thats what you have just done.... plain as daylight..
i dont have a website because if you read my posts its not going to be my best advertising tool...(... ::) why would i answer this thread like this and have a lovely website doh!)
so yes , brilliant imput... but exeptionally wrong!!!!"
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Think you may need to add more..
1st point.... i dont lie.
2nd point... he travels all over the world. fact....
3rd point...he dont just do sites for people he does everything regarding pcs.
now i dont like being called a liar and thats what you have just done.... plain as daylight..
i dont have a website because if you read my posts its not going to be my best advertising tool...(... ::) why would i answer this thread like this and have a lovely website doh!)
so yes , brilliant imput... but exeptionally wrong!!!!"
Like i said you talk rubbish
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My webpage isn't targetted at people searching for window cleaner. is more of an extension to my leaflet. you can only put i find a minimal amount of information on them. so the idea is if there interested they'll go on website and av a look. i've got a full 4 days a week 4 weeks of the month. i am just targeting £20 - £30 houses for top up on round. loads of these town houses popping up.most likely to be on net 2. thats what i'm after.
thanks all. Didn't want to start a argument between you guys. Marketing means many things to many people.
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How long did they take them to finish it! from you sending your details to the finish job!
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it took just under a week to get it on line. by the way the £95 also incudes search opitimising, it just takes a couple weeks to do. mike (chap who did site) to set up. hes going to do itso if u type window cleaner in pontypool, my name will pop up.
mine is for domestic. dont do much commerical. too long waiting for payments in my exprience. enjoy domestic. dont have to be up and out early or weekends etc. domestic suits me. not for everyone. thats what the site is for really.
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it took just under a week to get it on line. by the way the £95 also incudes search opitimising, it just takes a couple weeks to do. mike (chap who did site) to set up. hes going to do itso if u type window cleaner in pontypool, my name will pop up.
mine is for domestic. dont do much commerical. too long waiting for payments in my exprience. enjoy domestic. dont have to be up and out early or weekends etc. domestic suits me. not for everyone. thats what the site is for really.
I am guessing you are waiting for it to be search engine optimised as from where I am sat if is lacking basic things it needs. You may want to look into that if it is not being done, the reason I say this is because when I design a site the SEO is build in at design stage not after its finished.
Ian
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Ok many thanks for letting me know how long they take to build a website, just I am looking at get 2 sites done as I wont to flood the first page on Google (more fishing nets, more fish)
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Ok many thanks for letting me know how long they take to build a website, just I am looking at get 2 sites done as I wont to flood the first page on Google (more fishing nets, more fish)
Poleman call me ;)
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What now! lol
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What now! lol
i think he wants a date ;) :)
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What now! lol
i think he wants a date ;) :)
Lol ;D ;D ;D
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Guys it really dosen't matter that i dont pop up on a search. the website is a extension of my leaflets. i went for template because it suited me. i had a look at window washers website, they are very good. i just didn't need a besoke website design.
All was after is the site easy on the eye and does it look good i.e not too much info to take, not negative in any way, easy to nagvigate etc
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What now! lol
i think he wants a date ;) :)
Lol ;D ;D ;D
lol,
Yes any time Poleman, unless it was you I just spoke to, but I dont think it was you.
Ian
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Are you talking to yourself?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sorry I was on the phone again to someone else from here ;)
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No it wasn't poleman. It was me you spoke to. Got your email. Thanks for help.
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Have to agree with Steve on this one, I have a very good site www.smart-cleaning.com and the amount of work I get as paid for it over and over again, think about it! a PC is in most homes and offices
Andy
andy, but your site could have been a template, its all html that some1 could create from a template site
its nice enough, but its not a flashy all singing all dancing website
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Ok many thanks for letting me know how long they take to build a website, just I am looking at get 2 sites done as I wont to flood the first page on Google (more fishing nets, more fish)
just do as others on here have done
just buy a 2nd domain name and use the same site code
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No it wasn't poleman. It was me you spoke to. Got your email. Thanks for help.
Your welcome ;)
Ian
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Have to agree with Steve on this one, I have a very good site www.smart-cleaning.com and the amount of work I get as paid for it over and over again, think about it! a PC is in most homes and offices
Andy
andy, but your site could have been a template, its all html that some1 could create from a template site
its nice enough, but its not a flashy all singing all dancing website
Why would you want a flashy singing and dancing website, that was so 10 years ago, but a site designed back end correctly you do need if it is to work for you the things you do not see are the things that really do make a difference on a site as are the things you see.. ;)
Ian
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w ww.submitexpress.co.uk/tips.html
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w ww.submitexpress.co.uk/tips.html
2006 ::) search engines change monthly if not sooner Matt
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w ww.submitexpress.co.uk/tips.html
2006 ::) search engines change monthly if not sooner Matt
::) ::) ::) ::) all still apply today, or are you saying they do not
1. meta tags
2. link exchanges
3. all pages linked to each other
4. submit your site to major search engines
lets not pretend its no do-able by a average net user with a little help from a search on google
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w ww.submitexpress.co.uk/tips.html
2006 ::) search engines change monthly if not sooner Matt
::) ::) ::) ::) all still apply today, or are you saying they do not
1. meta tags
2. link exchanges
3. all pages linked to each other
4. submit your site to major search engines
lets not pretend its no do-able by a average net user with a little help from a search on google
it is do able you are right, but do the wrong thing and your back to square one or banned, so the average user IMO can do ok
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Have to agree with Steve on this one, I have a very good site www.smart-cleaning.com and the amount of work I get as paid for it over and over again, think about it! a PC is in most homes and offices
Andy
andy, but your site could have been a template, its all html that some1 could create from a template site
its nice enough, but its not a flashy all singing all dancing website
Matt the site you quoted is my site yes; it was built to my spec from ground up! So it’s not a template
Andy
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Have to agree with Steve on this one, I have a very good site www.smart-cleaning.com and the amount of work I get as paid for it over and over again, think about it! a PC is in most homes and offices
Andy
andy, but your site could have been a template, its all html that some1 could create from a template site
its nice enough, but its not a flashy all singing all dancing website
Matt the site you quoted is my site yes; it was built to my spec from ground up! So it’s not a template
Andy
andy, i know you had it built for you, i didnt mean it was a template, if you read my post again
i said "could have been" as the layout it pretty standard, you could find a template for a VERY similar style of site
no offence meant about your site, its nice enough
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mine is 2.99 a month ;D
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you have a good webpage, well done :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I should hope so by now - it was built in 2008 ???