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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on August 18, 2008, 08:48:30 pm

Title: vivaro chassis
Post by: LWC on August 18, 2008, 08:48:30 pm
just sorting the tank in me van, are your guys systems bolted through the chassis rale running parrel with the van?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: NWH on August 18, 2008, 08:51:53 pm
just sorting the tank in me van, are your guys systems bolted through the chassis rale running parrel with the van?
You can bolt them to the floor,the best place to put them in those vans is about 2.5ft back from the bulkhead.You open the side door and you have loads of space for trad gear and spare bits and bobs,they have a battery connection under the passengers seat to wire everything to.
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: jaykie on August 18, 2008, 08:56:10 pm
Is yours LWB then matt
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: matt on August 18, 2008, 08:59:04 pm
watch it, the spys will be out and reporting you to your insurance companies
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: LWC on August 18, 2008, 09:03:31 pm
ive got a layflat 650. ive had a cage made around itand where the cage finishes itr runs parrelel with the chassis rails, can i go straight through them and bolt down?

(laughs at matt)
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: ftp on August 18, 2008, 09:22:00 pm
just sorting the tank in me van, are your guys systems bolted through the chassis rale running parrel with the van?
You can bolt them to the floor,the best place to put them in those vans is about 2.5ft back from the bulkhead.You open the side door and you have loads of space for trad gear and spare bits and bobs,they have a battery connection under the passengers seat to wire everything to.

Bolt to the floor ??? NWH have you been drinking tonight?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: LWC on August 18, 2008, 09:25:49 pm
please dont start the debate...do you know if i can go through this rail?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: ftp on August 18, 2008, 09:30:49 pm
I got my local garage and mot centre to secure my ratchet straps and they went through my chassis in my citroen. Don't know if they used existing holes or wether they drilled new ones though.
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: stevekennedy on August 18, 2008, 09:37:08 pm
Need to go through the chassis. Definitely.

The competitor's system that Ionic crash tested was bolted through the floor using plates. It came loose at 30mph. The plates ripped right through the floorpan! Chassis is the way to go.
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: matt on August 18, 2008, 10:34:49 pm
you could get some brackets made that go over the rail and not though them

Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: LWC on August 19, 2008, 08:39:36 am
no its ok i want to go through them. so theres no secret wires going through them before the drill comes out?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: edd on August 19, 2008, 10:25:17 am
r u comim tonite for your spray tan lol
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: LWC on August 19, 2008, 10:48:43 am
can i come now lol?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: riz on August 19, 2008, 10:57:54 am
Need to go through the chassis. Definitely.

The competitor's system that Ionic crash tested was bolted through the floor using plates. It came loose at 30mph. The plates ripped right through the floorpan! Chassis is the way to go.

Ionics do bolt through the floor using plates
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: LWC on August 19, 2008, 11:00:36 am
Need to go through the chassis. Definitely.

The competitor's system that Ionic crash tested was bolted through the floor using plates. It came loose at 30mph. The plates ripped right through the floorpan! Chassis is the way to go.

Ionics do bolt through the floor using plates
yeh ust have just been a test

ive just fgind a ideal place to go through, does anyone have pics? and are you sure you can just go through the chassis rails?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: JSMC on August 19, 2008, 12:48:15 pm
honestly don't know about drilling into chassis rails TBH. I planned to go through floor with spreader plates.
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 19, 2008, 03:09:56 pm
there are three ways to bolt a tank to the floor:

1. a mixture of bolts through the floor pan and chassis
2. bolts just through the chassis
3. bolts just through the floor pan

I recommend spreader plates for all methods and using method 1. Luke
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: Andrew McCann on August 19, 2008, 03:58:21 pm
There are also cross members running between the chassis rails on Vivaros.

Use these as well as the chassis and where you cant use eother chassis or cross members use large 6mm stainless spreader plates beneath the floor. You are fine to go through the chassis but don't rely on just nuts or nuts with washers. Again use spreader plates beneath the chassis and cross members.

You will have to drop the fuel tank to make sure the tank is properly secured.

We did a Vivaro on Friday. A 650 upright and we used 20 bolts evenly spread around the cage bottom. 6 on each long side and 4 on each short side.

On the bolts through the chassis and cross members we used stainless steel inserts in the holes into which the bolts were placed to strengthen the whole fitting. This is a LOT stronger than just through the chassis. Also don't forget to underseal each plate/bolt or you run the risk of rust.

Andrew
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: dave0123 on August 19, 2008, 05:10:56 pm
Andrew can you suply 400ilt tank upright. Also a cage for 400lit upright tank with bolts/plates?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: Andrew McCann on August 19, 2008, 05:16:18 pm
Andrew can you suply 400ilt tank upright. Also a cage for 400lit upright tank with bolts/plates?

Sorry Dave no I don't.

Carriage etc would make a decent cage expensive for you. Also it's pretty impossible to supply exactly the bolts and plates needed to fit properly.

I do fit tank/cage only though without pumps etc and you can be sure it would be fitted very safely.

Andrew
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: dave0123 on August 19, 2008, 05:19:34 pm
ok.

were about are you located?
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: Andrew McCann on August 19, 2008, 05:22:37 pm
I will make it easy for you Dave.  Near Barton on Humber just south of the humber bridge. m62 m18 m180 to m180/m15 turnoff and ur there  :)

Andrew
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: JSMC on August 19, 2008, 05:26:49 pm
andrew i plan to buy a cage from purefreedom if they ever get round to sending the invoice out.
my tank is 400ltr upright and will be going in vivaro.

what do you recommend with regards to fitting
Title: Re: vivaro chassis
Post by: Andrew McCann on August 19, 2008, 05:35:10 pm
There are also cross members running between the chassis rails on Vivaros.

Use these as well as the chassis and where you cant use eother chassis or cross members use large 6mm stainless spreader plates beneath the floor. You are fine to go through the chassis but don't rely on just nuts or nuts with washers. Again use spreader plates beneath the chassis and cross members.

You will have to drop the fuel tank to make sure the tank is properly secured.

We did a Vivaro on Friday. A 650 upright and we used 20 bolts evenly spread around the cage bottom. 6 on each long side and 4 on each short side.

On the bolts through the chassis and cross members we used stainless steel inserts in the holes into which the bolts were placed to strengthen the whole fitting. This is a LOT stronger than just through the chassis. Also don't forget to underseal each plate/bolt or you run the risk of rust.

Andrew


^^^  That JSMC

Andrew