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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ftp on August 18, 2008, 08:06:41 pm
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Anyone using one of these yet? Looked at one the other day with 800kg payload i think so could possibly carry 500l?
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i like the size of them, the only down side its a pooroen
now if it was made by a german company, i might be interested
im torn between the VW T5 sportsline and the VW caddy
then again, who knows what will arrive
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I am taking delivery of a Berlngo tomorrow, but it is the old model - its cheap now!
Matt, I have just had rid of my Merc Vito - crap German thing, wouldn't touch another German vehicle, had mercs, audi, vw and a skoda (vw), all crap, nearly as bad as the rover we had.
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i like the size of them, the only down side its a pooroen
now if it was made by a german company, i might be interested
im torn between the VW T5 sportsline and the VW caddy
then again, who knows what will arrive
Going strong since 1997, no problems whatsoever.
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Anyone using one of these yet? Looked at one the other day with 800kg payload i think so could possibly carry 500l?
Go to citroen dealer & get a brochure for one. The LX 1.6hdi has 851kg payload & has loads & loads of top features, THREE front seats too. This is a superb van for up to 500ltr max.
Best of all i've seen this very model for 9.5K OTR, YES OTR, inc vat + everything!!!! Only you will be privvy to this info though david ;)
Tony
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Why thank you Antony ;D I don't need one at the moment. I'm a little different to most folk on here i'm afraid. I would prefer to have the smallest van i could get away with for parking etc rather than a truck with acres of unused space in the back and a swimming pool of pure water for those massive commercial jobs that i don't have.
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Anyone using one of these yet? Looked at one the other day with 800kg payload i think so could possibly carry 500l?
Go to citroen dealer & get a brochure for one. The LX 1.6hdi has 851kg payload & has loads & loads of top features, THREE front seats too. This is a superb van for up to 500ltr max.
Best of all i've seen this very model for 9.5K OTR, YES OTR, inc vat + everything!!!! Only you will be privvy to this info though david ;)
Tony
1.6 with 500ltrs in,you`ll be luck if you can get it off the drive.That van is no where near man enough for the job,sorry.
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NWH you are funny ;D if it has an 850KG payload then it will cope with 500ltr easily. How come you use a little connect van with 500ltr then? ;D ;D
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NWH you are funny ;D if it has an 850KG payload then it will cope with 500ltr easily. How come you use a little connect van with 500ltr then? ;D ;D
The shocks and springs will cope but beleive me the engine won`t,i have a LWB turbo diesel connect with 500ltrs and it`s guttless.For 500ltrs you need a medium sized van ie vibaro trafic minimum,if you load a van like that it will drink fuel at an alarming rate,my van is going it`s just not man enough for carrying that amount of weight.I`ve said it before ignore the payloads on these vans,speak to someone who has 1 and get an honest opinion not a smarmy salesmans 1,payloads go on weight being carried it dosen`t tell you it will struggle to pull it.
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Had a Citroen Picasso with 1.6 hdi and was pretty impressed. Wife's car has a 1.4 Deisel only three cylinders and pulls easily with five adults on board. Modern engines have come a long way especially deisels.
Some of the bigger vans still have fairly small engines with the extra body weight too - what's the Vivario 2ltr?
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Anyone using one of these yet? Looked at one the other day with 800kg payload i think so could possibly carry 500l?
Go to citroen dealer & get a brochure for one. The LX 1.6hdi has 851kg payload & has loads & loads of top features, THREE front seats too. This is a superb van for up to 500ltr max.
Best of all i've seen this very model for 9.5K OTR, YES OTR, inc vat + everything!!!! Only you will be privvy to this info though david ;)
Tony
1.6 with 500ltrs in,you`ll be luck if you can get it off the drive.That van is no where near man enough for the job,sorry.
its a 1.6 hdi though, not just some bog standard 1.6
s.posed to be 90 bhp and i belive is ca be mapped to 110 bhp
now thats got to be man enough for 500 kg
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my 2.0 hdi pulls 900kg perfectly, Luke
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Anyone using one of these yet? Looked at one the other day with 800kg payload i think so could possibly carry 500l?
Go to citroen dealer & get a brochure for one. The LX 1.6hdi has 851kg payload & has loads & loads of top features, THREE front seats too. This is a superb van for up to 500ltr max.
Best of all i've seen this very model for 9.5K OTR, YES OTR, inc vat + everything!!!! Only you will be privvy to this info though david ;)
Tony
1.6 with 500ltrs in,you`ll be luck if you can get it off the drive.That van is no where near man enough for the job,sorry.
its a 1.6 hdi though, not just some bog standard 1.6
s.posed to be 90 bhp and i belive is ca be mapped to 110 bhp
now thats got to be man enough for 500 kg
The 1 he quoted was 1.6hdi,the 1 your talking about i agree would be good enough.
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Same bhp - 90, in fact the 2ltr is 80 i believe.
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70.
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Engine & Trim Wheelbase Height Width Payload
600Kg 1.4i First (SLD) 2693 mm 1796 mm 1724 mm 600 kg
600Kg 1.6 HDi First (SLD) 2693 mm 1796 mm 1724 mm 600 kg
625Kg 1.6i X L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 622 kg
625Kg 1.6i L1 X (SLD) 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 622 kg
625Kg 1.6i LX L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 625 kg
625Kg 1.6 HDi (75ps) LX L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 626 kg
625Kg 1.6 HDi (75ps) X L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 624 kg
625Kg 1.6 HDi (75ps) L1 X (SLD) 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 624 kg
625Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) LX L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 626 kg
625Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) X L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 624 kg
625Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) X L1 (SLD) 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 624 kg
750Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) LX L2 2728 mm 1840 mm 1810 mm 759 kg
750Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) X L2 2728 mm 1840 mm 1810 mm 746 kg
850Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) X L1 (SLD) 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 849 kg
850Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) LX L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 851 kg
850Kg 1.6 HDi (90ps) X L1 2728 mm 1843 mm 1810 mm 849 kg
1.0t 1.6 HDi Platform Cab X L1 2728 mm 1821 mm 1810 mm 1000 kg
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NWH you are funny ;D if it has an 850KG payload then it will cope with 500ltr easily. How come you use a little connect van with 500ltr then? ;D ;D
The shocks and springs will cope but beleive me the engine won`t,i have a LWB turbo diesel connect with 500ltrs and it`s guttless.For 500ltrs you need a medium sized van ie vibaro trafic minimum,if you load a van like that it will drink fuel at an alarming rate,my van is going it`s just not man enough for carrying that amount of weight.I`ve said it before ignore the payloads on these vans,speak to someone who has 1 and get an honest opinion not a smarmy salesmans 1,payloads go on weight being carried it dosen`t tell you it will struggle to pull it.
I think you are the salesman's dream NWH-
" Here lad, have this one, it's only 5k more & it goes like a rocket ship! Loads o' BHP son, you'll need it when you're flying round town at 90mph with 500 ltrs of water in the back! We'll throw you some neons in too, underneith, for when you start at 4am! ::)
Tony
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Your on here late again Tony,has the Mrs gone to bed then lol. ;D ;D ;D
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Your on here late again Tony,has the Mrs gone to bed then lol. ;D ;D ;D
She's had enough of me by this time of night so she kicks me out the living room & i come on here & take it out on you lot! ;D
Tony
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Your on here late again Tony,has the Mrs gone to bed then lol. ;D ;D ;D
She's had enough of me by this time of night so she kicks me out the living room & i come on here & take it out on you lot! ;D
Tony
Read you like a book mate beleive me lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-*
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NWH is right, the payload doesnt mean it can practically take that day in, day out up hills. you do need a good sized engine, at least a 1.9 or even more if you can. Thats not to say you wont be able to pull those weights but a larger engine will do it more ecenomically to, because it doesnt have to struggle, Luke
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It's a workhorse, it's sposed to struggle. anyway, for 500 quid you can extend the FULL warranty from 3 years to 5.
Economy is about many things, not just fuel consumption.
Smaller van usualy less over-all running costs, lower purchase price etc.
Then you get the VW crowd ;D how they hold a better re-sale value, yeah, probably true BUT they have tied up an extra 5 to 10k of funds for the privilege, which, inturn, if invested wisely would have earned them far more than what they eventualy gain from any sleightley higher resale premium. ;D ;D ;D
Tony
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I've been told that hyundia are bringing out a van in November that is the same size as the berlingo in Diesel that will do 70 mpg and will be under £9k to buy with 7 year warranty
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I've got the new Partner 850, which is essentially the same as the Berlingo. All I can say is EXCELLENT van... loads of room, holds 500 liter tank with poles + reels and all my trad gear easily. Pretty good stereo too.
NWH you are funny ;D if it has an 850KG payload then it will cope with 500ltr easily. How come you use a little connect van with 500ltr then? ;D ;D
The shocks and springs will cope but beleive me the engine won`t,i have a LWB turbo diesel connect with 500ltrs and it`s guttless.For 500ltrs you need a medium sized van ie vibaro trafic minimum,if you load a van like that it will drink fuel at an alarming rate,my van is going it`s just not man enough for carrying that amount of weight.I`ve said it before ignore the payloads on these vans,speak to someone who has 1 and get an honest opinion not a smarmy salesmans 1,payloads go on weight being carried it dosen`t tell you it will struggle to pull it.
Don't be put off by the size of the engine mate, the 1.6Hdi is more than enough for the job. Fully loaded it still pulls really well, will cruise at 80 and (apparently) give me 40mpg. My old Partner was the 1.9 diesel, flat I think, and struggled pulling 400 liters around.
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I have just got a Berlingo First 1.6HDI 75 BHP, I have put a 500ltr tank in it - I know I will be overweight in the mornings but DILLIGAF - it pulls just fine and does not struggle when fully loaded.
Some people talk so much crap they must be able to taste it.
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Who you trying to kid lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I have sat at 80 this morning in it fully loaded, goes better than the Vito I have just got shot of.
Not trying to kid anyone, just telling it like it is. I have no reason to BS anyone, I just get on with earning a living while shelling out as little as possible just because some internet warrior says it wont work unless you spend this and have that.
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If you don`t do a lot of miles in it and your work is local i don`t see the problem but if like me you do lots of travelling with work etc it would be tiresome to drive,i find with the smaller engine vans you have to thrash them to get them to move when full.
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NWH you seem to have a lot to say about things you know so little about. ;D
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If you don`t do a lot of miles in it and your work is local i don`t see the problem but if like me you do lots of travelling with work etc it would be tiresome to drive,i find with the smaller engine vans you have to thrash them to get them to move when full.
It has only done 180 miles, I got it yesterday morning, today was the first day out in it, it has definetly not been thrashed, it has not been over 3500rpm.
I thrash my motorcycles as I do not keep them long, the van will be with me for 4 years and has to kepp working to earn its keep.
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Hyundia H1:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Hyundai_H-1.JPG/782px-Hyundai_H-1.JPG)
Peugeot Expert:
(http://imageserver.autoexposure.co.uk/autoedit/AETA79664/AETV73431767_1b.jpg)
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this van is an interesting alternative to the Peugeot Expert:
www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/brochures/EquipmentSpecs2008/H1Van_Spec08.pdf (http://www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/brochures/EquipmentSpecs2008/H1Van_Spec08.pdf)
www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/brochures/H-1_brochure_2008.pdf (http://www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/brochures/H-1_brochure_2008.pdf)
Similar size, payload, 3 seats etc etc. They are not available in the UK yet, but I spoke to Hyundai and they said you can buy them here and there are plans to release them next year or late this year!!!!
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the spec on this van is very very high:
www.hyundai.ie/configurator/index.cfm?fuseaction=hy.overview&modelID=2116&bodyID=4253 (http://www.hyundai.ie/configurator/index.cfm?fuseaction=hy.overview&modelID=2116&bodyID=4253)
(http://www.hyundai.ie/templates/hyundai06/images/comms_banners/H-1_Van.jpg)
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How much in pounds rupert the google virtuoso?
Tony