Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: L.J.Thorpe on August 16, 2008, 10:44:04 pm
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why ???
i dont do gadgets
why do i need george
whats wrong with a book
i dont even need a book most days
i already know where i will be working next week
i can adapt it to suit weather/access whatever
so why do i need it
and why do you ???
why is it so good
laymans terms please
no hot sink stuff cos i dont know what it means
just plain english
please
:)
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Wow. I think you've you've answered your own question mate. Ya don't need it. It's pants. Waste of time AND money. But if ya serious about ya business,accounts and the inland rev, i'd say it's worth every single penny of the £50 the lads ask for it. Not to mention the hours and hours it will save you. But that's only my humble opinion. Others may vary ;)
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why will it save me hours tho
explain
as for serious about my business ::)
i dont have any problem with accounts
takes a few minutes a day
i just want to know why george is better
what does it do
how does it work
what do i need to do if i have it ???
i aint slagging it off
i dont know anything about it ::)
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If you buy it you'll suddenly find you're doing £300 a day. ;)
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How about instant access to debt records, income forecast, expenses, the list goes on! I would have spent hours sifting through paperwork and entering details onto paper if it wasn't for George, what have you got to lose by trying it ???
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How about instant access to debt records, income forecast, expenses, the list goes on! I would have spent hours sifting through paperwork and entering details onto paper if it wasn't for George, what have you got to lose by trying it ???
so how does it do this ???
i aint being awkward i just dont know how it works
surely you have to enter all this data into it
marcus has a little conputer thing like a big calculator
do you connect it to computer and up date or what
some of you will laugh at this i am sure
so far i am doing fine with paper
lots of you use it tho
so whats the story
and yes i REALLY am that thick with techno stuff :)
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You can use a pocket pc that can run the George program so you can instantly store when you have completed a job and whether they have paid or not, then you can upload the info onto your pc when you get home, I did have one once I broke it and haven't bothered with another I just print a work list and use that so back to pen and paper on that part, when you get home and on the pc its simple to mark of jobs that have been done and whether they have been paid or not. George will automatically update when the job is next to be done. Yes you do have to enter all the job details into it for it to work.
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not like you this l.j.........its about simple organisation and you seem very sensible and organised
so a sensible system, which takes away a heck of a lot of bookwork has to be a good thing, for you, the accountant..(if you have one)..and the taxman.... yeeeeaah the tax maaa-aaan. :)
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how does it cope with wet days (which means fascia and gutters for me ;D) and holidays(lots of long wknds) etc. Do you have to do all the round in a set order ???
my round is very flexible i have some commercial work that has a more strict 5 week limit
the rest gets done on my terms
does george allow for this
as for it being "only" 50 quid....thats nearly 25litres of resin and i KNOW that works so its money well spent
50 quid on something that i wont use or dont need is a waste
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yes it copes with all that... all of it... there is nothing it cant do regarding sorting out your business....
you can put the conservatory roofs in... it does the lot...
why dont you download the free trial and see.... it gives you a set amount of customers to deal with, you can play around, se if it works for you. eh
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as for it being "only" 50 quid....thats nearly 25litres of resin and i KNOW that works so its money well spent
50 quid on something that i wont use or dont need is a waste
You can download the trial version and use it free for 3 months.
Andy
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not like you this l.j.........its about simple organisation and you seem very sensible and organised
so a sensible system, which takes away a heck of a lot of bookwork has to be a good thing, for you, the accountant..(if you have one)..and the taxman.... yeeeeaah the tax maaa-aaan. :)
ting is tho gazz i organise my round in my head and write it up afterwards,i can almost recite the whole thing in approximate order(this varies to some extent,i will work in crap weather i just go and do houses who aint bothered or ones that will be empty,thats how i work it) i also know,without having to check up, how much i have outstanding and the price of each job :) Does george allow for this kind of flexible approach or does it restrict your options
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yes it copes with all that... all of it... there is nothing it cant do regarding sorting out your business....
you can put the conservatory roofs in... it does the lot...
why dont you download the free trial and see.... it gives you a set amount of customers to deal with, you can play around, se if it works for you. eh
as for it being "only" 50 quid....thats nearly 25litres of resin and i KNOW that works so its money well spent
50 quid on something that i wont use or dont need is a waste
You can download the trial version and use it free for 3 months.
Andy
sorry just read these chaps ;D thanks
maybe i will have a look :-\
i really am crap at computer stuff tho
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sorry just read these chaps Grin thanks
maybe i will have a look Undecided
i really am crap at computer stuff tho
Do you have a window cleaner living near you who uses George?
If you do perhaps you could sit down with them and see how they use it?
Andy
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why dont you just download it and use it? theres a tial anyway for 60 uses then after that if you like it buy it.
The best way to understand it is to try it considering its a trial to start off with nothing to lose.
dave
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.try it.... my round is also in my head.... but i then put it into george...
get up in the morning,,, print a sheet for the day....tick the jobs you have done... paid.. not paid.... (month after its highlighted in red that they owe you)....
also type in the petrol you used... things you have bought for your business
L.J.its so simple even if you dont like computers.
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???
why ???
i dont do gadgets
why do i need george
whats wrong with a book
i dont even need a book most days
i already know where i will be working next week
i can adapt it to suit weather/access whatever
so why do i need it
and why do you ???
why is it so good
laymans terms please
no hot sink stuff cos i dont know what it means
just plain english
please
:)
I agree that you don't NEED it (or any other electronic data system). But I find it far easier to keep track of things since I started using a database/spreadsheet system a few years ago. That's what George is really. A database/spreadsheet with a user friendly front end. A very good one as well.
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Brilliant software for me and no you won't be earning more money with it ??? Very handy at the end of the tax year too. Can see what your earnings will be for the rest of the year and you can invoice customers through it. The only downside would be for the tax dodgers who won't want to enter every job into the system. I haven't found a quick way for it to allow for holidays yet as this would seem to be a case of moving each job one at a time. I tend to run a book too to carry in the van then adjust george to suit when i get back.
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LJ come round mine one wet day and ill show you the ropes
Marcus...
ht tp://www.georgesystems.co.uk/
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in lay mans terms , you download program on to pc via website, enter cust details, phone numbers , price frequency , due date [you only have to put this in when setting up job on pc.] the set frquency will take care of future cleans. when you do the job enter details on pc by ticking done box, job will then be
reset to be done when ever you have set frequency, ie ftnly, mthly , bi mthly ect. if they pay tick paid , if not do not tick box , if you do a job late, ie hols , weather ect. just press 'today button, by done box. you can print job sheets , these will show who owes , date last cleaned ect. when collecting print debt list, this will show who owes money.if you use a palm[pocket computer ] this needs to be running palm os.this will make the whole process quicker,
as you do not have to manually transfer job sheet at end of day on to pc, you just link up pocket pc press 1 button , and in secs it updates all records , and loads
next day/days work.the best way is to try it it is free to use for about 60 days i think. hope this helps
daz
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cheap handheld
Item number: 200246163707 Ebay
Marcus...
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The only downside would be for the tax dodgers who won't want to enter every job into the system.
Not at all.
Your turnover declared is what's paid into the bank each week, doesn't matter what's written on your little machine (unless someone else gets hold of it).
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That’s not accurate; most likely if you are doing your accounts like that you will be not declaring all your earnings.
:-X
...and... ???
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Your turnover declared is what's paid into the bank each week,
If thats the case then my last years turnover would be half of what I said it was ???
I certainly don't bank everything, whats the point of putting cash in to take it out again for general living expenses?
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I dont put all money into bank either
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I dont put all money into bank either
Nor do I. Nor are you obliged to. If a direct debit needs covering in my personal account, some of the cash won't even enter the business account as there wouldn't be time to transfer it and cover the DD.
However, it does get entered into my books whichever way I do it.
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For the 50 notes that it costs...I cannot think of anything that has worked so hard for our little business....projections at the click of a mouse....backing up data, forcasts, running totals, expenses, milagages, debts, histories...all presented in a reliable format in a program that doe not try to use every single computer resource available...and to top that ...a programmer who does listen to his customers...
All in all...for me a great product...
Dave.