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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: merson on August 14, 2008, 08:32:35 am
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Does anyone know where I can buy one of these ( apart from omnipole ) please ? Even thought of importing some ;D Thanks .
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Ionics do one,...
or you can diy it?
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Do a search for gutter keeper on google, I think they are US based
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Thanks guys, I am googling it as we speak , or should I say type ? :o
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Found the company in the USA , email sent , Job done ! 8) ;D
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Got a response frrom usa , and guess what ?
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u have to deal with ionics
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u have to deal with ionics
correct ;D
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any one know where i can get one cheap ?
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Whats wrong with Omnipole.....?
Their cheaper and lighter than the Upkeeper from Ionics but not as light as a D.I.Y
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=51156.0
Regards
Mr H
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Whats wrong with Omnipole.....?
Their cheaper and lighter than the Upkeeper from Ionics but not as light as a D.I.Y
Regards
Mr H
I tried to contact Glyn at omnipole ! More chance of finding lord Lucan !!! ::)
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Speak to Keith at omnipole, he demos the vac, knows all about it!!
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Speak to Keith at omnipole, he demos the vac, knows all about it!!
Thanks I will bell him monday ;D
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
::)
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
Company perk eh ? ::)
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
Company perk eh ? ::)
Now your being silly :-\
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
Company perk eh ? ::)
Now your being silly :-\
Am I ? 8)
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I tried to contact Glyn at omnipole ! More chance of finding lord Lucan !!!
We have ten staff at Omnipole three of whoms job it is to answer customers questions, solve problems and take telephone orders and in many cases answer emails.
Apart from Omnipole I also manage two window / gutter cleaning contracting companies - I am sorry but I am not always available to answer potential customers questions.
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I tried to contact Glyn at omnipole ! More chance of finding lord Lucan !!!
We have ten staff at Omnipole three of whoms job it is to answer customers questions, solve problems and take telephone orders and in many cases answer emails.
Apart from Omnipole I also manage two window / gutter cleaning contracting companies - I am sorry but I am not always available to answer potential customers questions.
Glyn can you ring me now ?
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I tried to contact Glyn at omnipole ! More chance of finding lord Lucan !!!
We have ten staff at Omnipole three of whoms job it is to answer customers questions, solve problems and take telephone orders and in many cases answer emails.
Apart from Omnipole I also manage two window / gutter cleaning contracting companies - I am sorry but I am not always available to answer potential customers questions.
Glyn can you ring me now ?
I dont want to give negative ffedback Glyn , but I have been chasing you for a month ! Either you want my business or you dont ! Looked at your glossy flyers , and was impressed , but the customer care stinks !!!!!!!! You will understand why I am going elswhere ? :o
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Sorry I cannot, I come onto the forum to relax, I have no technical information or prices available apart from what is on our website.
I can certainly call you Monday.
Please dont take it personal but I made a business decision ten years ago not to take any business telephone calls over weekends.
If you email I will answer your questions before Monday.
Glyn
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How can you give negative feed back when you havent purchassed from us.
When you telephone Omnipole you will be answered promptly and professionally and your question will be adressed.
Ok you may not be able to speak to me but neither could our customers like the MOD or Heathrow Airport for example. If I happen to be available and not in a meeting then I will answer customers questions, if I am in a meeting or surveying a window cleaning contract which I often am then sorry but I cannot answer your question - but their are three others who can.
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How can you give negative feed back when you havent purchassed from us.
When you telephone Omnipole you will be answered promptly and professionally and your question will be adressed.
Ok you may not be able to speak to me but neither could our customers like the MOD or Heathrow Airport for example. If I happen to be available and not in a meeting then I will answer customers questions, if I am in a meeting or surveying a window cleaning contract which I often am then sorry but I cannot answer your question - but their are three others who can.
Ok first relax ! We got off on to wrong footing LOL . Dont want to stress you more Glyn ??? If you could give me a call on monday , I would be very gratefull . I am veryt interested in your product ;D
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07982 764 854 ;D
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i have always found omi helpfull and honest no i dont work for them eitheR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have bought an omnivac, I even went to London on the train to see it. I never met Glyn but Jules and Andrea were sound as a pound. If you buy something from Marks and Spencer you don't have to meet the boss. Give him a break.
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
Company perk eh ? ::)
Now your being silly :-\
Am I ? 8)
If I was in Glyns shoes I would let you struggle with the other crap systems on the market then after a few failed attempts at professional gutter cleaning let you beg to buy the Omnivac. Some people just dont deserve helping :-\
My opinion you understand ;)
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
Company perk eh ? ::)
Now your being silly :-\
Am I ? 8)
If I was in Glyns shoes I would let you struggle with the other crap systems on the market then after a few failed attempts at professional gutter cleaning let you beg to buy the Omnivac. Some people just dont deserve helping :-\
My opinion you understand ;)
Who asked you anyway ? :-X ::)
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Andrea at Omnipole is also very knowledgeable. Buy an Omnivac as the other systems currently available are rubbish - take it from a man that knows ;)
Please keep this quiet , but I have found a supplier in ohio in states ;D
Supplier of what exactly?
Do you work for omnipole ????
No - I have an Omnivac though ;D
Company perk eh ? ::)
Now your being silly :-\
Am I ? 8)
If I was in Glyns shoes I would let you struggle with the other crap systems on the market then after a few failed attempts at professional gutter cleaning let you beg to buy the Omnivac. Some people just dont deserve helping :-\
My opinion you understand ;)
nice one kevin ;D
could not have put it better
regards mike
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hi kev,how are things going with your guttervac,are you picking up much work and do you need a powerwasher for most jobs-thanks
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merton you are certainly entertaining :-* :-* just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
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hi kev,how are things going with your guttervac,are you picking up much work and do you need a powerwasher for most jobs-thanks
Its all going well. I have lately picked up three new large commercial contracts and we pick up more every time the heavy rain comes. I have to say this summer has been good for gutter cleaning. We as a matter of course flush down pipes as when I began I got a couple of call backs which in my eyes is not good for business, so it has become the standard. We use the Powerpole from Omnipole and a 5.5 hp Honda 150 bar, pressure washer which is more than adequate (150 bar is the max pressure for the powerpole hose) We have 40m of hose mounted on a reel which is bolted to a pressure washer trolley which makes the job much easier. (Omnipole has made some really good attachments for the pole which let us clean & flush any depth or profile of gutter - at around £30 - £75 they have been well worth the money - ask Andrea or Keith for details)
We have also got many new window cleaning contracts on the back of the gutter cleaning, as we offer a "special" discount for companies that wish to take up both services. We have also evolved due to this and now we now offer full service contracts.
For those who have bought systems lately make sure you get you web presence sorted now as its about to get very busy as soon as the leaves start falling. We have found that web advertising is the best way to go s when they are in a rush the customer will just google it. (My free tip of the day)
;D
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hi kevin r.....advice needed
i got my gutter vac and camera about three weeks ago but have just got round to practise with it at a local school. but i have a problem, i asked a lot of questions at omnipole pole and one of them was can i use the system on my own as i am a one man band, and was told that i could, but yesterday i was going to try to clean a gutter at about 30ish feet and there was no way i could lift the pole up from the ground, bear in mind that iam 6ft 2 and 15.5 st and go to the gym twice a week!!
also it seems to me that you need one person to use the vac and another to use the camera at the same time as in the piece of gutter i was trying to clean there was a plastic water bottle in the gutter there was no chance of getting that out without somebody looking with the camera directing me to it..am i doing something wrong because at the moment i am struggling big style.
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merton you are certainly entertaining :-* :-* just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework ;D
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hi kevin r.....advice needed
i got my gutter vac and camera about three weeks ago but have just got round to practise with it at a local school. but i have a problem, i asked a lot of questions at omnipole pole and one of them was can i use the system on my own as i am a one man band, and was told that i could, but yesterday i was going to try to clean a gutter at about 30ish feet and there was no way i could lift the pole up from the ground, bear in mind that iam 6ft 2 and 15.5 st and go to the gym twice a week!!
also it seems to me that you need one person to use the vac and another to use the camera at the same time as in the piece of gutter i was trying to clean there was a plastic water bottle in the gutter there was no chance of getting that out without somebody looking with the camera directing me to it..am i doing something wrong because at the moment i am struggling big style.
Ok, I do to about 35 ft by myself on level ground but after that I get help. It does take practice. Let the tool take the weight , use the black tube with the cross member and rest it on the gutter and jiggle it along every few feet then go back over once again to be sure. Set the too to almost face the pole and the bar will support the weight. After 35 feet use the support pole and another person. Look at the picture below - see how I rest it on the gutter and how the tool is set to face the pole? On deeper gutters rest the cross member on the gutter.
Ok, use the camera, record a section then play it back. Omnivac the area, then use the camera again to check your work. Dont try looking at the monitor while you record there is no point. I just have mine inside a camera bag recording. I never use it while I vac. I use it on a separate Powerpole.
I hope this helps ;D
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merton you are certainly entertaining :-* :-* just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework ;D
Well don't ask me for help ;)
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merton you are certainly entertaining :-* :-* just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework ;D
Touche ! ;) ;D
Well don't ask me for help ;)
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merton you are certainly entertaining :-* :-* just one question for you do you have 5 to 6k to invest in the gutter vac and do you hold any current gutter cleaning contracts?? I have part system and to complete the package with genny,powerwash,trailer and camera etc the above investment is what is required I also hold commercial gutter cleaning contracts otherwise I would not of invested in the system and plodded along with my window cleaning...think hard before investing... 6 k is a lot of cash...how much would that return you on domestic round by taking on another lad to help you?
Thanks for your concern friend , I have the funds , and have done the homework ;D
Touche ! ;) ;D
Well don't ask me for help ;)
MR Merson, It would be very helpful that If you are quoting someone than please type your reply outside of the quotation marks - not that I am overly interested in your replys.....LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Please accept my humble appologies :'( I can understand I am in the presence of greatness .
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kevin but how at 35ft do you get the pole vertical??. i found it much to heavy to lift??
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kevin but how at 35ft do you get the pole vertical??. i found it much to heavy to lift??
Whimp !
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The trouble when these threads turn sour is that the rest of us don't get the info.35ft is a lot of leverage, what is the answer?
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kevin but how at 35ft do you get the pole vertical??. i found it much to heavy to lift??
Whimp !
why dont you go and chat to you mates!! oh sorry i forgot you dont have any ;D ;D
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I am writing a method that we use to erect the poles it is the same method we use for window cleaning poles. I will post it when completed.
I guess we take it for granted that people will use the same method we have adopted over years of using window cleaning poles of all weights and sizes.
I appoligise if you were not shown on your visit to us.
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I have a few questions about vac systems
Does anyone know what the tube sizes are for the various makes of gutter vacs?
I suppose the wall thickness of the tubing is also relevant.
Who has come up with the best method of joining the sections together?
Which systems are lightest?
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Erecting poles to reach area to be cleaned.
This method is used if the operator decides the pole is too heavy to lift straight up from the ground or if the operator has difficulty sliding the sections up and securing the sections one at a time whilst the pole is in its final vertical position.
Extend the pole to roughly its desired length whilst it is in a vertical position, if two personal are present then the pole operator places his instep at the base of the pole whilst the assistant holds the pole at the far end and walks towards the operator finally passing the erected pole onto the operator.
For a lone worker the base of the building acts as the steadying method with the operator walking towards the building – by the time the operator reaches the building the pole will be in an upright position.
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kev,
In the picture it looks like you have the cross bar attached to the pole on one end and the other to the rubber hose, is that how you preffer it or is it supposed to be that way
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The lengths of the Omnipole GutterVac tubes are 6' and approx 50mm. The GutterVac tubes are semi modular inso far as their are only two tube diameters.
The GutterVac tubes are constructed from aerospace alloy. The tubes are secured by a thumbscrew clamp.
You can view the guttervac at omni-guttervac.com (http://omni-guttervac.com)
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Glyn , I was just looking at your site,
using a powerpole as a high pressure lance and fitting a 'Collett Adaptor to let you use brushes or accessories on 3rd or 4th pole' does this allow you to remove the thinner top sections to make the pole lighter? if thats right what section does this part fit into or is it tapered to fit any section?
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Steve
with the standard window cleaning or high pressure powerpole you can remove the top section and the tools will still fit as we supply a stepped connector to fit the top or secound pole. The collet adaptor lets you remove the second and third tube to lighten the pole when the full height is not required. It is also very handy if you want to put a lot of pressure on the opole say you were scrubbing graffiti off or using a scraper to remove concrete or a poster as the fourth tube is stronger and will not flex at all due to it incresed diameter.
Hope what I wrote makes sense ;D
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Cheers glyn , i will call tomorrow and order one
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My word a bit of activity since I was here ;D
As Glyn says make the pole up on the ground (attach the hose as this protects the aluminum sections) and place the end into and against the base of the building, go to the other end and walk it up into position. Dont erect it by lifting it as you will bend it and strain yourself.
The black hose and bar was the first tool to come with the Omnivac, I prefer these tools to the flexible hose for 99% of work. I set it up like that as I like it that way . I'm not sure if thats how its supposed to be used but after a bit of experimentation I prefer that way. Its actually attached to the hose cuff.
Glyn maybe its time for a detailed instruction manual? I come from the age of walking large wfp poles up, but those days are almost over.
I also had Omnipole take an inner vac tube and cut it into three 2 ft pieces- this enables you to not double up the tubes at certain height- just join the outer sections together if that makes sense. It make the extended poles lighter.
The collet adaptor also is a must to make the powerpole lighter. Just remove the sections you dont need.
Sorry there are so many bits of kit, you will end up owning if you get into commercial. The Omnivac is complete enough for domestic work but once you start to use it at real height things become a little more complicated. Also remember once you enter the commercial world there are many many different profiles of gutter. I have had two gutters (custom built for that building) that I need specialist tools for. If this happens phone Omnipole, tell them what you need and they can make it, or will already have the solution.
I hope that helps ;D
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I have a few questions about vac systems
Does anyone know what the tube sizes are for the various makes of gutter vacs?
I suppose the wall thickness of the tubing is also relevant.
Who has come up with the best method of joining the sections together?
Which systems are lightest?
I had a serious look at all gutter vac systems available befor I decided on the Omnivac. I used all of them on a trial basis. They were all keen to show me how good they were on a house except Omnipole who were happy to demonstrate on commercial too.
My findings were most of the systems available are limited by height. Most will do the average house but not much higher. All are underpowered except one. The tooling is sadly lacking except for domestic gutters, except the tools of one company.
The best way to answer your questions is have a look at all the systems and make your own mind up. Would you buy a car without seeing it?
I did this a bought the Omnivac as it is leagues above the other machines for power, hose size, tooling and industrial quality parts. Omnipole have produced a system designed for all aplications of gutter cleaning, not just the domestic market.
I hope this helps ;)
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The trouble when these threads turn sour is that the rest of us don't get the info.35ft is a lot of leverage, what is the answer?
That is not the case - the reason they go sour is some people prefer to be idiots. As you can see within this thread. I am not referring to you Discount!
As to pole question please see previous post.
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I have a few questions about vac systems
Does anyone know what the tube sizes are for the various makes of gutter vacs?
I suppose the wall thickness of the tubing is also relevant.
Who has come up with the best method of joining the sections together?
Which systems are lightest?
The DIY system using the SL2 base sections is the lightest system and can be used by 1 person at 60ft.
The Up-keeper doesn't go above 24ft.
Regards
Mr H
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I havnt had this much fun , since the ex wife told me she was leaving me for the local butcher !
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I havnt had this much fun , since the ex wife told me she was leaving me for the local butcher !
Obviously fancied some steak rather than chump ;D
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I havnt had this much fun , since the ex wife told me she was leaving me for the local butcher !
Obviously fancied some steak rather than chump ;D
LOL
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I havnt had this much fun , since the ex wife told me she was leaving me for the local butcher !
Obviously fancied some steak rather than chump ;D
LOL
;D ;D ;D
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I havnt had this much fun , since the ex wife told me she was leaving me for the local butcher !
Obviously fancied some steak rather than chump ;D
LOL
;D ;D ;DWhere you based mate ?
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Exeter & Tiverton & Taunton
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Exeter & Tiverton & Taunton
Three houses . . . . . wow you are doing ok for yourself ;D
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I know LOL ;D
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I know LOL ;D
When I am feeling better , I would like to buy you a drink sometime buddy ;D
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No Worries Mate - happy daze ;)
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I know LOL ;D
When I am feeling better , I would like to buy you a drink sometime buddy ;D
You have never said that to me :'(
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I know LOL ;D
When I am feeling better , I would like to buy you a drink sometime buddy ;D
You have never said that to me :'(
Ian mate , you have short arms and long pockets ! But I will buy you a drink anyway cos I love you despite all your faults ;D
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Its been a laugh , but all good things come to an end ! Thanks for all the good comments ;D