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Title: 001 and spotting
Post by: peekeclean on August 05, 2008, 09:41:57 am
hi guys been out this week cleaning and noticed some spotting on the glass when it is dry, so i test my water and its is 001 comeing out my DI.
Now i have done my mums windows and treated them like a first clean and they dryed crap Why?
Not runs just all the drips on the glass dryed dirty.

I use a hand tds meter so could the readings be wrong?

anyone had this befor??

cheers joe
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: Xline Systems on August 05, 2008, 10:09:45 am
joe please dont take this the wrong way but are you new to this
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: johnny_h on August 05, 2008, 10:16:49 am
is to all the windows you have cleaned or just your mums? were the spots in a line down from the top of the frame or all over?
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: peekeclean on August 05, 2008, 10:23:25 am
hi x line not realy, been doing it part time for just over a  year and not had this befor. this will be the first time iv had to change my resin 2.

hi johnny-h its not dirty runs its all over, like i said the drops left on the glass dry dirty white.
and yes my mums and mine r like it but any advice is good mate as i have a set of doors that run terrible think its the rubber on them tho.

cheers joe
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: Oakley Windows on August 05, 2008, 10:25:19 am
Is it the first time youve done your mums?
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: Xline Systems on August 05, 2008, 10:26:47 am
you sometimes get milking off upvc frames this will leave marks.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: johnny_h on August 05, 2008, 10:35:02 am
as x-line says sounds like the upvc milking to me the only thing i do is get lots of water on them scrub like billy-o till they stop which they will do but might take time
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: peekeclean on August 05, 2008, 10:40:28 am
its not the first time iv done my mums.
she has ali frames anyway. its got to be the water tds and iv been told that the hand held meters play up when the battiers are shot, just wonder if anyone has had the same problem and was that it??

the resin will need to be change now i think.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: johnny_h on August 05, 2008, 10:51:36 am
powder coated ali is a nightmare and if the windows are really rinsed off well 001 shouldnt give you that amount of trouble yes change the resin see how you get on
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: [GQC] Tim on August 05, 2008, 12:03:47 pm
At 001 the resin doesn't need to be changed just yet, but make sure that you put new batteries in your TDS meter, if that still doen't work, it might be dodgy.

But Ali frames sounds a lot like the problem you are having, they can be oxidised.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: peekeclean on August 05, 2008, 03:09:59 pm
has anyone ha to recalibrate there tds meter?
if so how?
i think my meter is out as 001 should not make  these dirty marks so i think it must be a lot higher.

joe
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: NWH on August 05, 2008, 03:18:53 pm
I`ll bet there ali framed,combined with a red mono vikan.That would explain everything to me in 1.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: johnny_h on August 05, 2008, 04:35:58 pm
peekeclean just an idea but why not go to your local tropical fish place that sells ro water ask them to test it with their tds then test your one if they both match then its not the meter! just a thought
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: windowwashers on August 05, 2008, 04:42:38 pm
I`ll bet there ali framed,combined with a red mono vikan.That would explain everything to me in 1.
you really dont like the red vikan mono do you NWH, I am guessing you had a bad time with it, we clean with them on ali frames and dont have a problem  ::)
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: Oakley Windows on August 05, 2008, 05:30:08 pm
I`ll bet there ali framed,combined with a red mono vikan.That would explain everything to me in 1.
you really dont like the red vikan mono do you NWH, I am guessing you had a bad time with it, we clean with them on ali frames and dont have a problem  ::)

Done that too, no problems, rinse well, thats it, end of story.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: peekeclean on August 05, 2008, 07:06:59 pm
no red vikan the new duel trim superlite but that carnt be the trouble can it NWH.
iv changed my resin now so hope thats it.

joe
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: NWH on August 05, 2008, 09:21:41 pm
no red vikan the new duel trim superlite but that carnt be the trouble can it NWH.
iv changed my resin now so hope thats it.

joe
I bet it`s the Ali that`s giving you problems.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: rah on August 05, 2008, 10:27:26 pm
has anyone ha to recalibrate there tds meter?
if so how?
i think my meter is out as 001 should not make  these dirty marks so i think it must be a lot higher.

joe

I do mine by using a bottle of water purchased from Halfruads, little ironic purchasing something i produce daily, but it's what i was told to do via the guy's a bought my system from. B****x

Rob
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: [GQC] Tim on August 05, 2008, 11:00:34 pm
no red vikan the new duel trim superlite but that carnt be the trouble can it NWH.
iv changed my resin now so hope thats it.

joe
I bet it`s the Ali that`s giving you problems.

What would you say is the best way of doing them, do the frames first for a couple of windows in a row, and then go back to the first, glass only, taking care to not touch the top?

Does it go away after a while when you clean the frame properly every time? Or does it just go worse? Only have two customers like this, and I haven't done them often enough to see a real difference, they have been milking for the last 2 cleans.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: NWH on August 05, 2008, 11:45:08 pm
If i see ali frames unless deep set commercial 1`s the blade comes out,clean the frames all you like they will still spot.If there painted it`s a different story there doable.
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: [GQC] Tim on August 06, 2008, 12:04:27 am
Even if you just do the glass??
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: Wayne Thomas on August 06, 2008, 12:37:07 am
If it's aluminium frames leaving a dried white spotting when it's dried....remember to rinse brush off around the painted frames because the brush disturbs the painted coating.
IMO using hot water on these painted frames makes it a lot worse if rinsing brush on because I have tried it on the same problematic windows using both hot & cold water on different occasions with diferent results, cold water and rinse brush off works best. :)
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: peekeclean on August 06, 2008, 05:40:12 pm
changed the resin and the problem is gone, must be the meter not reading it right?

joe
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: BURNA on August 06, 2008, 09:05:26 pm
I have exactly the same problem with white dried spotting. Been using WFP for a couple of months and have NEVER got the windows as clean as i want them to be. This is using brand new resin too. Reading is 001.

Yes i'm new to WFP but is it really possible to get windows totally spotless with it?
Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: macmac on August 06, 2008, 11:27:24 pm
Ali frames, red vikan mono', no problem here. :D

Title: Re: 001 and spotting
Post by: [GQC] Tim on August 07, 2008, 12:42:19 am
Ali frames, red vikan mono', no problem here. :D



Some ali frames have got no problems with oxidising at all.