Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Shaun_Ashmore on August 03, 2008, 11:21:53 am
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Who sells them?
Which is best?
How much?
Shaun
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i use a sx12 which is quite good,but i think the turbo hybrid is better,because it has slots instead of holes.
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Does anyone have one to hire ? lend?
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World of clean, £687
www.worldofclean.co.uk/index.php?productID=318
Hydramaster, £499.99
www.hydramaster.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=63
Ashby's, £550
www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.co.uk/product_details_321.htm
These Mosmatic ones (with vac recovery) look great for high pressure work on dead flat surfaces, not much use for slate or other highly riven stone floors I wouldn't think. £327 for the 12" and £676 for the 21"
www.jet-wash-direct.co.uk/rotary-cleaners/index.html
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Shaun
You should have ask are they worth there weight in gold 8)
Len
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are they?
Shaun
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I've yet to see one do a better job than the one I bought from tech-clean, considering some cost more than double the cost of mine.
I've used it on smooth concrete factory floors and rough outside floor surfaces, with a vac attached it never leaks.
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Shaun
Why you are looking at spinner tools? I only ask as i`m buying a TM,and looking at getting a rx20/Rotovac to do commercial carpets and hard floors. Dont these do the same thing or am i missing something???
I will probably go for the Rotovac as its £1000 plus vat cheaper(thats a lot of fuel)
Regards
Daryl
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Daryl the RX20 is a bit of a beefier machine than the Rotovac - my opinion from looking at them, studying the specs and reading others' comments.
Spinner tools work differently from rotary extractors - you can't use a spinner on a carpet!
Spinners work best with much higher pressures than rotary extractors, because they physically blast away soiling from the surface they are cleaning, rather then the flushing action you get from rotary extractors.
Rotary extractors turn at a set speed and require an electrical supply to rotate them, whereas spinners are self-propelled, and turn faster the more pressure and flow is put through them.
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Thanks Jim, ;)
Can you use inside and out?
Daryl
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Spinners, you mean? Certainly, according to those who sell them.
The type sold by the carpet cleaning suppliers (Ashbys, Hydramaster etc) are purpose-built for internal hard floors - I would presume you could use them externally but not sure if rougher surfaces like concrete and block paving would damage the rubber strip used to make the seal to the floor. You'd also need to bear in mind that you're not "pressure washing" a surface using a your carpet extraction machinery, you're "rinsing" it.
The type Mike mentions above are specifically designed for external high pressure use but I'm sure are just as capable on a flat, smooth internal floor like vinyl or power-floated concrete. The minimum operating pressure of the pressure-washing type of spinner is going to be considerably higher than a hard floor spinner, above the capable pressures of most carpet extraction units.
This is all my opinion from what I've seen and read, I don't own a spinner by the way!
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Shaun
did you get a spinner tool?
if so which one did you get?
I used one down at HM and was very impressed
Many Thanks
Daryl
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Did you use it today?
Are they doing any deals?
Shaun
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When using these tools on tiles would be fine, but any natural stone you will till have to use a chemical to release the dirt and grease from the stone, also you have to use the right chemical otherwise you can really damage natural stone, then once you have cleaned it you will need to re-seal the floor, with the right sealer for the natural product you have cleaned. Natural stone floors once laid people think there is no more maintenance to do, that cant be further from the truth. I also specialize in grout recoloring so i can change the colour of any grout using a epoxy based grout which makes it really easy to keep clean plus makes it more water proof. Any more info guys drop me a line.
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shaun
i had a demo around 3 weeks ago when i went down to HM, to have a look and
order a 318.
It worked great on the concrete outside, and John said it would work on interior
floors.
what are your or anyones thoughts??
Daryl
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sherco
why cant you use these tools on natural stone floors? are they too severe?
would have thought that it would be better to use this type of pressure washing, as no chemical is involved,
rather than use the wrong type of chemical?
regards
Daryl
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No not to severe, but you will still need to use specialized cleaning products, then they need to be re-sealed when they have been cleaned, but you need to identify if the have had a solvent based sealant or a water based sealant. And when cleaning limestone, marble etc you can really do a lot of damage by applying the wrong cleaner. I would recommend training before cleaning.
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I just want one for tiles, but as at the moment I don't get asked much I'll look for a 2nd hand one or a bargain.
Shaun
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I do most of mine with a numatic scrubber and a good wet vac, as i only do domestic work. What i do is lay the floors and do a maintenance program for the customer, works very well.
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Sherco
thats what iv been doing for the last 21yrs ;D,
but lately have been asked by some custys that they dont want any kind of finish on they just want it NATURAL!!
I thought it would make a better job,by pressure/extract, and a lot easier and quicker.
Daryl
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How do you find your domestic customers? I'm always looking for items to clean when I go to peoples homes as I'm sure that there is always an add on but I'd say that there aren't that many tiled floors (although I need to really look) only laminates.
Shaun
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I'm a tiler, so i tile a lot of bathrooms, kitchens, conservatories so this is how i get a lot of my work, i laid a 25 sqm slate floor last week and they want me to maintain it, starting a 60 sqm limestone floor tmro so hope i will get that one. That's why i have added carpet cleaning as I'm already in peoples houses.
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I'm a tiler, so i tile a lot of bathrooms, kitchens, conservatories so this is how i get a lot of my work, i laid a 25 sqm slate floor last week and they want me to maintain it, starting a 60 sqm limestone floor tmro so hope i will get that one. That's why i have added carpet cleaning as I'm already in peoples houses.
Good for you Sherco, using your client base to its full potential.
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I'm a tiler, so i tile a lot of bathrooms, kitchens, conservatories so this is how i get a lot of my work, i laid a 25 sqm slate floor last week and they want me to maintain it, starting a 60 sqm limestone floor tmro so hope i will get that one. That's why i have added carpet cleaning as I'm already in peoples houses.
Good for you Sherco, using your client base to its full potential.
Thats what its all about Joe. ;D