Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mark311069 on August 02, 2008, 09:02:42 pm
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hi all
got my gutter vac last week but have realised i need a power pole and power washer. the washer from omnipole with all the bits is £2000 ish plus vat. and i dont have that dosh to hand. i can afford the power pole, but as space in my van is limited can i use a powerfull electric washer with it? and also can i use my wfp water tank in my van to supply it?
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In the last couple of weeks two separate power poles (pressure washer fittings inc) have sold on ebay for under £350.
You could use a electric pressure washer if you have the generator but a petrol on would be better for several reasons. Yes you can use your wfp tank to supply it.
As to space in the van, I eventually gave in a bought a box trailer ;D
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mark ive just got my gutter-vac too
you need to get the high pressure kit from omnipole which fits to the powerpole(trigger,hose & nozzle) ,
im also looking at electric pressure washers,i might get the one from wickes - 160 bar and about 650 litres per hour £110. i was told you dont need the heavy duty pressure washer to wash out the down pipes, also you need one which has a thread fitting to the lance rather than the push fit so you can fit it to the powerpole trigger
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kev , i just bought the 48 foot powerpole off ebay for £250 ,described as new/unused
did you get an extension lead for the hoover? i cant find one rated over 3600 watt
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Hi steve,
Just buy some 2.5 cable (40 meters max) and make one up. I have mine on a metal hose reel.
I couldn't find a made up one either.
I have a 48 ft power pole. its a good bit of kit for the high stuff but the 8 ft sections are a bit of a problem as I am a short a*se. I also have a 36 which I like for most jobs.
ebay is a good thing sometimes if your lucky ;)
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i did think that when i bought it but i'm used to using the old 60 foot pole, 12 foot sections, at £250 i couldnt not buy it ,
i will have to make an extension lead up also
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at £250 it was a steal. worth every penny ;D
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kev , when you work do you take the vac out of the trailer and just leave the generator in the trailer, all pull the full trailer around
im debating whether to buy a small trailer just big enough for the generator or buy the bigger box trailer to put all the kit in, im thinking box trailer will be wider and wont be able to fit up narrow pathways & heavier to pull around
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electric pressure washer and generators dont mix.the pulsing serge from your gene will soon burn out your washer.i went though 2 washer in a month until i found out.(now use honda petrol washer costs about £600 but worth every penny.feed its self from tank
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kev , when you work do you take the vac out of the trailer and just leave the generator in the trailer, all pull the full trailer around
im debating whether to buy a small trailer just big enough for the generator or buy the bigger box trailer to put all the kit in, im thinking box trailer will be wider and wont be able to fit up narrow pathways & heavier to pull around
Hi Steve,
I leave the generator and the spare bits of Omnivac tubing in the trailer and work on a 40m extension lead. With the lead the vac lead and the hose you can pretty much get anywhere. Its good having the vac near you as you need to turn it off every now and then if it gets blocked.
I personally decided to get a small box trailer. The smallest ifor williams one is the perfect size.
ht tp://www.iwt.co.uk/products/boxvan/bv64e.htm
This trailer with the generator is easy to get anywhere even along paths.
Another way of attracting business is to have it sign written and leave it (well secured) parked on the industrial estates etc.
The pic is from Ifor williams site ;)
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electric pressure washer and generators dont mix.the pulsing serge from your gene will soon burn out your washer.i went though 2 washer in a month until i found out.(now use honda petrol washer costs about £600 but worth every penny.feed its self from tank
I too have a petrol pressure washer. I didn't know that about electric washers I was under the impression you could use any electrical equipment hookde up to a generator . My Omnivac has been fine. I wonder what the difference is?
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hi all
got my gutter vac last week but have realised i need a power pole and power washer. the washer from omnipole with all the bits is £2000 ish plus vat. and i dont have that dosh to hand. i can afford the power pole, but as space in my van is limited can i use a powerfull electric washer with it? and also can i use my wfp water tank in my van to supply it?
hi mark..dearer than what you think is this gutter cleaning set up aint it?? i too recentley acquired the vac sysem from omnipole....and was just browsing the net for pressure washers..there is some on ebay 13 hp pressure 4350 psi petrol washers at £285 brand new....is this ok if we are just wanting to send water down the donpipes to check for blockages?? maybe kev would beable to advise
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i can see the advantages of the petrol washer but room is tight in the van so electric it must be, i also cant see why it can not be hooked up to a geni??
if anyone hears of a powerpole for sale please point them in my direction.. thanks ;D
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hi all
got my gutter vac last week but have realised i need a power pole and power washer. the washer from omnipole with all the bits is £2000 ish plus vat. and i dont have that dosh to hand. i can afford the power pole, but as space in my van is limited can i use a powerfull electric washer with it? and also can i use my wfp water tank in my van to supply it?
hi mark..dearer than what you think is this gutter cleaning set up aint it?? i too recentley acquired the vac sysem from omnipole....and was just browsing the net for pressure washers..there is some on ebay 13 hp pressure 4350 psi petrol washers at £285 brand new....is this ok if we are just wanting to send water down the donpipes to check for blockages?? maybe kev would beable to advise
A friend of mine has recently bought a petrol pressure washer of ebay. It was fine for the tools that came with it but getting it sorted to use his own tools was a problem as the fittings were not standard (made in China)- in this day and age hard to believe I know. He has had several problems.
I am a great believer in you get what you pay for. I have a Honda engined pressure washer and it has been fine without a problem. It cost about £600 plus the dreaded. But it performs every time without fail - worth the extra £ in my opinion. Its not much bigger than an electric. Also if your doing commercial it will need to work connected to your tank in your van and power a long hose (mines 40m) Add at least £400 for the h/p hose and wheel mounted reel. Its not cheap but the rewards are more than worth it.
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I am a great believer in you get what you pay for.
Too true mate,
I got a £200 petrol PW and had nothing but trouble with it, and the replacement which I then got my money back, can't justify paying £600+ for a good one, so am selling off the rest of the kit, Lance, Gutter cleaner, hose, nozzels etc over on buy and sell :)
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hi mark,what do you think of the gutter vac,have you cleaned any gutters yet
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mark ive just got my gutter-vac too
you need to get the high pressure kit from omnipole which fits to the powerpole(trigger,hose & nozzle) ,
im also looking at electric pressure washers,i might get the one from wickes - 160 bar and about 650 litres per hour £110. i was told you dont need the heavy duty pressure washer to wash out the down pipes, also you need one which has a thread fitting to the lance rather than the push fit so you can fit it to the powerpole trigger
steve what pressure washer did u purchase to clean the downpipes
thanks
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Yere lucky. The 13hp honda pressure washers are well over 2k euro here in Ireland.
@ Kev when you leave generator in box trailer do you leave door open with it?
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can you list what you need to do gutter vacuuming?
i assumed i just needed the wet and dry vac that omnipole supply
the suction pole that comes with it
nozzles
and maybe a generator if no electric supply on site?
what else do i need?
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i ended up buying one of these 270305038424 of ebay, its a loncin , the same make as omnipoles generators
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a van to carry a good weight at least a ton 6 to 7k
half decent petrol genny £700
half decent powerwash £700
40 foot gutterpole and vac with powerpole 2k
static tank fitting in van £400
camera system £850
high pressure hose ?
roughley 12k to 13k.
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i ended up buying one of these 270305038424 of ebay, its a loncin , the same make as omnipoles generators
steve
is it ok for checking the downpipes??
been quoted for a pramac (honda engine) GX 160 , 110 bar, 1600psi, with suction hose 11.4 ltrs per hour
from just generators £749
bit of luck this should beable to do the job :-\
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a van to carry a good weight at least a ton 6 to 7k
half decent petrol genny £700
half decent powerwash £700
40 foot gutterpole and vac with powerpole 2k
static tank fitting in van £400
camera system £850
high pressure hose ?
roughley 12k to 13k.
As cheap as that - I wish ;)
You forgot to add the VAT too ;D ;D ;D
forgotton the advertising as well 1k ;)
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I think that KEV R has the gx160 and says its fine
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Just a note about our pressure washer range
We supply (and often build) pressure washers that start from £800.00 up to £15,000 :o
All the cold water ones have the commercial Honda GX range of engines or Diesel powered rather than the lower spec Honda GC range. We dont want problems for us or our customers which is why we carefully selected the range we sell. We use Izusu diesel engines for our very big big van and trailer mount units.
The pressure washer we selected for the full gutervac package is absolutly top of the range for a fully mobile cold petrol powered unit, incorporating a reduction gearbox and oversize pump to prevent excesive engine wear.
When used for gutter cleaning it runs with minimum effort and could run all day with out putting any strain on the engine. This pressure washer can and easily run any size Whirlaway for paving cleaning a service which many of our customers also offer as an add on. We also hire out these units so they have to be reliable and hard wearing. .... So thats the reasoning behind the choice.
I know there are plenty of much much cheaper petrol and electric power washers available from other sources, we set the standard of what specification of equipment we want to supply so we choose not to supply bottom, middle or even the lower level upper range.
We often we supply connectors to link up our high pressure PowerPole to a customers own pressure washer but only if the lance and hose can be detached from one another and they have a screw thread or standard HP push fit connectors (which the very cheap one often dont).
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i ended up buying one of these 270305038424 of ebay, its a loncin , the same make as omnipoles generators
steve
is it ok for checking the downpipes??
been quoted for a pramac (honda engine) GX 160 , 110 bar, 1600psi, with suction hose 11.4 ltrs per hour
from just generators £749
bit of luck this should beable to do the job :-\
fao glyn should the above pressure washer be ok for downpipe cleaning thanks,i av a 30 foot powerpole cheers
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i have a van, and a 13hp pressure washer/
do i just need the wet n dry vacuum and suction pole with nozzles
i can just use a electic supply on site if its domestic work.
is the power pole to was the gutter out connected to your pressure washer?
what else do i need?
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do i need a camera system for domestic work?
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You can get up and running for less than £1500 including a trailer, generator, camera, poles, vac and extension lead. If you Diy. No pressure washer but they can be sourced if you want one.
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cant you plug into the custys electric? why do i need a trailer when i have a van?
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You don't and yes you could use the customers electric. I decided against it in case i tripped their power out. Say they forget to switch the freezer back on and your profits gone. Also if they are out it could be difficult.
There seems to have been stacks of gutter cleaning done in my area, i don't know which method they are using but customers have been paying top whack for less than half a days work.
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Had a gutter clean today absolutely chocca with leaves - the vac worked very well clearing it all out. Went on to clean the outside with wfp - got some funny looks from the smug neighbour who was up his ladder wiping his down. Proper nerd all dressed up in his boiler suit. ::)
Must admit i did feel a little overprepared what with the generator and all.
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you would of been the one smiling if feel off his ladder. with concern of course :)
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you would of been the one smiling if feel off his ladder. with concern of course :)
How can you feel off your ladder ;D ;D ;D
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you would of been the one smiling if feel off his ladder. with concern of course :)
How can you feel off your ladder ;D ;D ;D
I feel (fell) off my ladder once and my legs went through the rungs and my shins scraped along a sharp edge, On both legs there was a 6inch scrape and at the top of each scrape was a big ball of skin and hair. It made me cry :'( :'( :'(
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does the suction pipe get blocked with the crap? is so if its in the middle of the pipe how do you get it out?
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It w'ont. If it makes it past he head/nozzle it'll make it the est of way. Also a tip i find is flush it with water its very bad although this fills up vac bit too quickly.
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does it suck big leaves through that small head? if not does it get stuck on the end? you know what its like hoovering your car if something getrs stuck on the end?
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whats the power pole? is it a wfp? or a extendable pressure washing lance? or the pole that carries the suction hose for the vacuum?
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If anything gets stuck at the head you just flick the power switches off and it will drop to the ground.
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cheers ftp? ;D will give it a go. oh yeah how much do you charge and how do you price it? i used to climb ladders and charge 15 quid per length of gutter and scrape it out with a trowel. isn that to cheap?
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What do you call a length? A whole side? Sounds very cheap for my area unless your only cleaning the inside.
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I did a couple that cheap but really your wasting your time because of the setting up time and packing away - easier to clean windows really.
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yes 15 quid per side, thats to cheap for a business i know. but it only took an hour to sides 45 quid in all. but if i got vac system it would be a lot dearer i guess. if its a 3 bed semi with three sides i guess it would be around 100 or more?
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y if its a 3 bed semi with three sides i guess it would be around 100 or more?
Good luck trying to get that... I reckon if you were just vacuuming a 3 bed semi £40 is more like it. Shouldn't take no more than hour including set up..
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£1.00 per foot at least.
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whatabout a minimum charge of 50 quid for any job?
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Min £75.00
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is thta what you charge? how long an hour?
if i just buy a wet n dry vacuum where do i get the pole from to work from the floor up to domestic gutters?
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can you use the wet n dry vacs in the rain with it being electric? ???