Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: trevor perry on August 01, 2008, 01:55:11 pm
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i have used both the dual trim brush and the single trim brush today and i have got to say i found the single trim the best it seems to have a lot more scrubbing power in my opinion.
whilst on the subject i think the price of £29.95 + vat is a bit overpriced for a brush but alex will know what it has cost him to get these produced and all his other equipment is competively priced so i guess i will just have to bite the bullet when paying.
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As they cost 57p each to manufacture I think it's a reasonable cost and will help fund the extravagant lifestyle that I intend to have one day.................
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Funny that i was also thinking they were a bit pricey! BUT i also think Alex could easily have chucked another £100 on top of an SLX and got away with it!
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Funny that i was also thinking they were a bit pricey! BUT i also think Alex could easily have chucked another £100 on top of an SLX and got away with it!
don't say that ive only a couple of weeks to go untill i can order one ;D
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I used two dual trim brushes on both my poles today and i have to say I think it is an excellent and well designed brush. Not just for the Superlite poles either but any pole.
I have tried many brushes in my time but this one beats them all , no contest
You can tell that this brush was designed by a window cleaner for window cleaners. Its light, not too stiff or too soft, jetted perfectly and splays beautifully. Doesn't hold dirt which makes rinsing on a dream. Also seems unaffected by hot water.
I guess Alex will be supplying all my brushes from now on. Well done Alex, another top product
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used my new superlite dual trim brush today must say its the best brush ive used to date and i cant believe how light it is, cant wait for the sill brush to come out 8)
regards
Brett
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Going to try both superlite brushes tomorrow on my new slx ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Next week I have some ideal work for trialling the new dual trim supalite. I will be comparing it with what I like best ......
I will report back...
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How is the single trim for getting slug lines off?
I have a dual trim on my slx and find it alot more effort than it was with the bentley or vikan.
I want to find out if the extra effort is because it is dual trim or because of the bristles.
Otherwise its great.
Tdw
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A little tip for slug lines,you don`t need to scrub and scrub them till the cows come home.Take your brush and follow the the slug line with it you don`t need to press hard,by brushing it in the line it takes on the glass it will just disapear without hardly any scrubbing.
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Now that is a tip I can use, that's excellent! Thank you so much for that. :)
Any more tips like that? :)
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Alex have you still got any single trim brushes left as i want to replace my vikan rectangulars.
Chris
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A little tip for slug lines,you don`t need to scrub and scrub them till the cows come home.Take your brush and follow the the slug line with it you don`t need to press hard,by brushing it in the line it takes on the glass it will just disapear without hardly any scrubbing.
Correct.
10 points. ;D
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Thats a good tip generally but yesterday was doing some houses that were covered in slug lines, they always are. They definitely used to clear quicker with the bentley brush.
I was just wondering if the single trim sl brush is any better with slug lines.
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Not much, not as quick as the Vikan mono. Can't have everything. :)
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Might be worth swapping to the vikan for the worse offending slug-affected houses.
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Alex, I know you liked VW crew cabs, but this is no way to get one ;D
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A little tip for slug lines,you don`t need to scrub and scrub them till the cows come home.Take your brush and follow the the slug line with it you don`t need to press hard,by brushing it in the line it takes on the glass it will just disapear without hardly any scrubbing.
Might work if they went in straight ish lines. I decided to try the tip today but the snail / slugs go in small wiggly lines so very hard to follow :-[
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i find if you switch off water and rub , easily done if you use a trigger they come off a lot quicker
daz
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So which is the better brush single or double trim for doing maintanance cleans and builders cleans?
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not on topik but why are slugs going up windows at this time of year , do the slugs konw sum thing we dont
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I was told they eat the spiders eggs :P
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So which is the better brush single or double trim for doing maintanance cleans and builders cleans?
Personally I would use a single trim for builders cleans unless it was at 40ft+ and then I would use a dual trim.
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Alex
Would you say the single trim is better for slug lines? Sorry to go on about it but i really had to put some elbow grease into it on friday to get them off with the dual trim.
Tim
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Alex
Would you say the single trim is better for slug lines? Sorry to go on about it but i really had to put some elbow grease into it on friday to get them off with the dual trim.
Tim
Hi Tim
I haven't specifically tested either of them on slug lines but I would imagine the single trim would be slightly better.
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tim go hot and never worry about slug lines ever again ;D :D
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tim go hot and never worry about slug lines ever again ;D :D
Youll never have to worry about them as the heat will crack the glass and you get it replaced for £70slug trails all gone.
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As they cost 57p each to manufacture I think it's a reasonable cost and will help fund the extravagant lifestyle that I intend to have one day.................
Here is the 57p quote Alex
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tim go hot and never worry about slug lines ever again ;D :D
Youll never have to worry about them as the heat will crack the glass and you get it replaced for £70slug trails all gone.
I'm hot for over a year now,.. no cracked glass at all yet,...
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As they cost 57p each to manufacture I think it's a reasonable cost and will help fund the extravagant lifestyle that I intend to have one day.................
Here is the 57p quote Alex
Very tounge in cheek if you ask me,even at 57p each Alex would have to sell loads as he`s got 6 screaming kids lol. ;D
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As they cost 57p each to manufacture I think it's a reasonable cost and will help fund the extravagant lifestyle that I intend to have one day.................
Here is the 57p quote Alex
;D. I thought the tongue in cheek was pretty obvious there. The whole thread was a good natured one wasn't it? Mind you that was back last Summer. The socket, screws and sticker cost more than that before you even get to the stock and bristles!
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turn down flow, no cracked glass ::)
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I was suprised at the 57p qoute, but if you can buy a bentley brush for £1.44 from asda, it is not unrealistic to believe an unjetted brush can be manufactured for 57p.
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i have used both the dual trim brush and the single trim brush today and i have got to say i found the single trim the best it seems to have a lot more scrubbing power in my opinion.
whilst on the subject i think the price of £29.95 + vat is a bit overpriced for a brush but alex will know what it has cost him to get these produced and all his other equipment is competively priced so i guess i will just have to bite the bullet when paying.
Don't know how anyone can think that they're pricey, I had been buying the bentley brushes for 2 years, and recently (as workload has increased) I was getting through at least one a month, since I got the new ones I fitted them in August, and haven't changed them yet! I think that makes them bloody good value! Every pole I have is now fitted with one.
As for which is best, I think I much prefer the single trim.
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I was suprised at the 57p qoute, but if you can buy a bentley brush for £1.44 from asda, it is not unrealistic to believe an unjetted brush can be manufactured for 57p.
You cannot buy in a Bentley brush at anywhere near cost price of 57p. With my original post at 57p I thought my subsequent comment of how this was going to fund my extravagant future lifestyle would have given the game away as a joke (even if I was going to fund a future extravagant lifestyle I probably wouldn't post it on a forum ;D).
Unfortunately it is unrealistic to think that a quality brush can be manufactured for less than a price of a Bentley brush that is sold in the 100,000's.
There are two things that make a real difference to the price of these two brushes (Bentley v Super-Lite):
1. The Bentley's stock is made from very cheap injection moulded plastic in quantities of no less than 30,000 units at a time (I know because we used to buy a lot of stuff from Bentley). By comparison, the Super-Lite's stock is made in much smaller batches of 100's at a time from high quality, high density stock material (I'm not going to say exactly which material for obvious reasons).
2. The bristles on the Bentley are made from very cheap nylon material and held in with zinc-plated staples, both of which cost very little to produce. The Super-Lite is made from non-nylon, high quality material (once again, I'm not going to say exactly what) and are held in with stainless steel staples.
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Will probably buy a sl brush one day, but I would be happy to pay more than the current price if Alex used Dupont nylon bristles, similar to the tucker brush, which IMO is unsurpassed.
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Will probably buy a sl brush one day, but I would be happy to pay more than the current price if Alex used Dupont nylon bristles, similar to the tucker brush, which IMO is unsurpassed.
Have you tried a Super-Lite brush? There are a lot of clients that prefer the bristle material on the Super-Lite to the Tucker Dupont nylon. However, there are those that prefer the Tucker to the Super-Lite. Mainly it's a question of personal preference as they both clean the glass very efficiently.
It's worth noting that the flocked bristles are completely different again to the mono-filament bristles.
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Alex, I haven't tried your sl brush yet but will one day.
I have seen and examined one and my view is that the tucker has superior scrubbing ability.
I don't mean to be critical as your products get consistently good reviews and you come across as a helpful guy.
Regards, dd
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Alex, I haven't tried your sl brush yet but will one day.
I have seen and examined one and my view is that the tucker has superior scrubbing ability.
I don't mean to be critical as your products get consistently good reviews and you come across as a helpful guy.
Regards, dd
I was interested to see if you had tried the Super-Lite as obviously you are a big fan of the Tucker brush (which I also rate highly) and I value people's side by side comparison as I am always looking to improve products.
I like criticism (well, to a point :)) as some of the improvements we have made over the years have been directly as a result of feedback from clients. Just because we consistently get good reviews, doesn't mean our products are the best. However, I would like them to be the best which is why constant re-examining of each facet of each product is important.
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Will probably buy a sl brush one day, but I would be happy to pay more than the current price if Alex used Dupont nylon bristles, similar to the tucker brush, which IMO is unsurpassed.
Have you tried a Super-Lite brush? There are a lot of clients that prefer the bristle material on the Super-Lite to the Tucker Dupont nylon. However, there are those that prefer the Tucker to the Super-Lite. Mainly it's a question of personal preference as they both clean the glass very efficiently.
It's worth noting that the flocked bristles are completely different again to the mono-filament bristles.
I use both Tucker & Gardiner super lite brushes. The Tucker definitely scrubs better without a shadow of a doubt, especially on stubborn marks, bood pooh, initial cleans. However, I've noticed, if using hot wfp with Tucker's dupont bristles, they agitate (if that's the right word), a minority of old black rubber seals, (south facing windows) and allows black runs from top seal to run down onto glass, whereas with Gardiners super lite brush the bristles don't react at all when using hot wfp. Can't have the best of both worlds, but it would be nice if the super lite brush had more bristles crammed into the stock giving extra scrubbing power.
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I appologise for all my spelling mistakes, had to give up smoking and concentration is impossible
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who was it that put a pic of a tucker brush on here wa it rupertthehair
Chris
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I appologise for all my spelling mistakes, had to give up smoking and concentration is impossible
oh dear you wait for the pounds to pile on.
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who was it that put a pic of a tucker brush on here wa it rupertthehair
Chris
Yes it was him that posted a picture.
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Ive got all 3 gardiners brushes and need 2 mor brushes for poles i got so might get a tucker to try out as they do look good quality.
Chris
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How do the Tucker brushes cope with hot water? Do they de-form/ loose their shape at all?
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A little tip for slug lines,you don`t need to scrub and scrub them till the cows come home.Take your brush and follow the the slug line with it you don`t need to press hard,by brushing it in the line it takes on the glass it will just disapear without hardly any scrubbing.
Might work if they went in straight ish lines. I decided to try the tip today but the snail / slugs go in small wiggly lines so very hard to follow :-[
You don`t go in straight lines you just follow the line of the trail,just follow the line of it and it`ll be gone especially with hot.
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How do the Tucker brushes cope with hot water? Do they de-form/ loose their shape at all?
They keep their shape using hot wfp. I've used them for cladding 4hrs solid with hot wfp with no distortion. Very good but pricey, however they last forever, so good value.
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How do they compare weight wise with the superlight brushes?
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The replica copies of the tucker weigh a ton and the bristles have no splay. Would be interested if anyone has a direct comparison between the real and the pretenders.Luke has me interested in what hes done to lighten his so will be having another look at the Tucker/Aquafactors stand.
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The replica copies of the tucker weigh a ton and the bristles have no splay. Would be interested if anyone has a direct comparison between the real and the pretenders.Luke has me interested in what hes done to lighten his so will be having another look at the Tucker/Aquafactors stand.
Just curious Jeff, who does the replica copies of the Tucker brushes?
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omnipole,
alot stiffer than a tucker.
ive tried them all, and have said on several w/c forums that gardiners super-lite duel trim flocked brush, for me, is the best out there
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flipping heck...replica brushes....i know people buy fake watches but fake tucker brushes ;D
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Someone was referring to fake TDS meters recently as well!
Not quite sure how you get a fake TDS meter as they either tell you the TDS or they don't.
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They just don`t move off of 000 lol. ;D
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i have been in contact with a guy in china and he can make me 100 fake SL2's for 5 quid each, dunno if its technically legit 8)
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i have been in contact with a guy in china and he can make me 100 fake SL2's for 5 quid each, dunno if its technically legit 8)
Sounds great....while you're at it could you get me a couple of hundred ;D