Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Andy Hogarth on July 22, 2008, 03:30:33 pm
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Had my first rippler today, just looked baggy as hell after cleaning.
It wasn't overwet and I tried to dry it out even more with the fan but still looked pretty bad.
Custy wasn't in so I had to leave a note explaining that it will settle when dry and to give me a call when they return.
It will settle won't it :)
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99 times out of 100 .......... if it was stretched and baggy before you started then you may have exaggerated it but rare ;)
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Never known one not to go back to normal, even the really bad looking ones :o
Think it can be more heat that makes it ripple than water, imho
steve
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:'( If it doesn't go back what should I suggest to the customer.
Would a carpet fitter be able to stretch it back when dry??
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If you look carefully you should see that the expanded bits, correspond to
where you overlapped your strokes, this overlap can become overwet quite
easily. They virtually always go back, they just take time, sometimes up to
36 Hours.
Don't worry about it, reassure the customer that it is expansion in the carpet backing,
and that it will go back to normal within 12 - 48 hours. If the worst comes to the worst,
get it stretched out, but i'd put money on it not being necessary.
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This has happened so many times I couldn't count, but I find that when using the RDM it seldom happens.
Some of them will ripple or buckle as I call it just at the sight of a pre-sprayer !, and look like the north sea on a rough crossing but yes 99% of the time they do dry down. Try letting of the flow before the end of wand stroke.
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I haven't had 1 for years and then the other day i got one, as stated 24 hours-36 hours irrelivant if it feels dry it will go back to normal.
Shaun
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Am also sure it wil go back andy dont worry..They can look really bad to the client when they first see it...
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It will totally go back!! Its happened to me about 5 times, the last time was 3 weeks ago, I told them it would be flat by teatime the next day and lo and behold come 5oclock she rang me telling me it went flat exactly when i said it would! I was told(or read) its because of latex in the backing of the carpet swelling up when wet and taking longer to dry than all the other materials in the carpet hence changing the dimensions of the carpet. Not sure if that is correct??
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That sounds kind of logical. I've also heard it said that action bac carpets are prone to this too, but don't know why exactly.
This brings back memories of my first "rippler", boy did I fill my pants!
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I have heard so many things from bad fitting to the backing expanding,cheap through lounge carpets etc..I came accross my first 1 about 13 years ago and was the same lol.....
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Cleaned a BUPA hospital corridor one Sunday evening.
YOU GUESSED IT ..........RIPPLER! ........YOU COULD SURF ON IT
Took 24 hrs to recover with patients, visitors and staff walking all over it on Monday.
Shat myself miracle i did not get a claim.
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How did you clean it Mark? Mop n bucket? ;D
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Full immersion :) :)
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It does look scary mark just isnt what clients dont want to see :o
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Cheers guys, feel better after reading this ;)
Just a shame the custy had to come home to it.... Plus she was a pain in the arse over the price and haggled me down to a well tight price ;D
I'm going to see her tomorrow mid day to explain fully so I'll use what you guys have told us
Thanks all
Andy
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Typical always is that way with the knock down price client..As they say at the end of most haunted dont have nightmares ;D
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Its sods law that the one that goes tits up was either cheap or you did it as a favour. Always happens.
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It's okay saying it but it does pay to stick to your guns when it comes down to pricing, she's now eating into your profit with a return call.
Shaun
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Cleaned it with HWE only ever used LM since still got the contract :)
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Hi Guys
I'm pretty sure rippling is due to the water 'plasticising' the adhesive/base causing it too expand.
Plasticisationn occurs when a small molecule fills the spaces between large molecules causing them to be pushed apart.
The carpet returns to it's original condition once the carpets water levels have returned to normal.
Why are some carpets more prone to this ?
Well different adhesives/substates are used and even if the same adhesive is used then there will be variations , particularly if quality control is poor.
I have never know a rippler not to return to its original dimensions but it is not pleasant.
Cheers
Doug
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Gone as flat as a pancake and the customer is well happy. Cheers all
I was bricking them all night, Thought I'd defo be that 1 in a 100 where it doesn't go back ;D
Phew
Andy
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Andy, good time to find yourself a good local carpet fitter. I mean good because there are some crap ones.
You could ask him to pass you work for commision but also call on him if needed.
Just think he's on his hands and knees all day in peoples houses. Who better to suggest their other carpets could be brought back to life with a clean.
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Are you still working andy or have you gone full time mate?Did your leaflet drop work for you :)..cheers clinton