Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dmlservices on July 21, 2008, 09:27:24 pm
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is there a release date for the new brush yet? , just seen it on u tube looks very good double trim and all.
any info on price, grade of brissels etc. i tried a double trim a while ago, but brissells to soft and went out of shape easily.
daz
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i would like to get my name down for £1 off alex for every person who asks this in the next few weeks
i will be rich i tell ya ;D ;D
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Don't faint.................. they are available now :D. Details on the website.
www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Brushes.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Brushes.html)
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Your kidding me! haha
Is it Dual Trim?
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Yes it is dual trim (as it now says on the website, whoops)
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Don't faint.................. they are available now :D. Details on the website.
i still think we will have a fair few " alex, whens the brush out" im sure ftp wil be along soon wih the question, and you can allways count on luke
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could you tell me what size the pencil jets are please :)
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I think gardiners fitt 2mm jets.
Alex, how did you get on with the different brush company troubles that you went through? Is this company that makes them okay? Trustworty, and a good steady stock supply?
Was the first batch of brushes of that company immediately satisfactory?
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Don't faint.................. they are available now :D. Details on the website.
i still think we will have a fair few " alex, whens the brush out" im sure ftp wil be along soon wih the question, and you can allways count on luke
I think Matt and Alex need to go head to head ! One round in a ring will sort out the winner !
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How does it splay Alex? Have you ever used a Tucker, how would you rate this brush compared to the Tucker? Just as good, or perhaps better?
No troubles with dirt being stuck in the bristles?
How did you get to this design? For instance why a certain amount of bristles per hole, and not more or less? Why those bristles exactly? What are they called?
Are you happy with the weight? How does it feel on a SLX and SL2?
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I'm here ;D I've just ordered ten!
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I thought they were free to every SL-X user. ;)
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Looks great Alex! I want one!!
:)
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hi alex
looks even better with the graphics, at last a pro looking wfp brush will have to order one now
daz
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Doh
I just got an SLX last week with a vikan mono as I thought the new brush was months away.
Simon.
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hiya, will the bristles keep their shape with hot water?
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Perfect timing, I've just ordered an SL-2 this morning and another SL-X so I should be able to compare the new brush to a Tucker very soon. :)
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Doh
I just got an SLX last week with a vikan mono as I thought the new brush was months away.
Simon.
I'll give you a tenner for the Vikan.
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I can`t beleive how quick posts have been going up on this thread lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Alex I'm intersted to know what the weight of this new brush is please
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Any chance of a pic of the bristle side of it?
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oops just noticed its 270g
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hi Alex
can i fit a fan jet on that brush?
Bosh
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SL-X & Super-Lite Brush in Action
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJMdSciKf9M
More
www.youtube.com/user/GardinerPoleSystems
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Huh!
They said they'd let me know!
Nobody cares about me :(
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Its only a brush...
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Huh!
They said they'd let me know!
Nobody cares about me :(
I care mate ;D . . . . . group hug everyone :D
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as purchasers of the sl2 do we get a free demo/free sample of the new brush...hint hint
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Huh!
They said they'd let me know!
Nobody cares about me :(
I care!
I only put the brush on last night. All those who have ordered them or who wanted to know when they are in are being contacted during the day today.
The new manufacturer has surprised us by supplying them ahead of schedule!
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Huh!
They said they'd let me know!
Nobody cares about me :(
I care!
I only put the brush on last night. All those who have ordered them or who wanted to know when they are in are being contacted during the day today.
The new manufacturer has surprised us by supplying them ahead of schedule!
I want one, any chance the connectors y piece can be the same same as the ones I got the other day look 2 small for pole hose I use, it is the standard hose thats on xtels and red vikan brushes
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HI Ian,
Your name is down on the list! The 'Y' piece connector is 6mm so should fit all standard pole hoses.
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HI Ian,
Your name is down on the list! The 'Y' piece connector is 6mm so should fit all standard pole hoses.
even though one side is larger ?
And great my names on list ;D
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I aint even started wfp , and I want one !!!!!! :o ;D
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Any chance of a pic of the bristle side of it?
If you look at:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT08sFmZZYY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT08sFmZZYY)
it shows the reverse side of the brush.
HI Ian,
Your name is down on the list! The 'Y' piece connector is 6mm so should fit all standard pole hoses.
even though one side is larger ?
The Y piece has two smaller barbs. These are to fit onto the smaller jet hose that attach to our small lightweight jets (this all comes fitted to the brush). The side that then connects your pole hose is standard 6mm.
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well ive just ordered on so keep your eyes open for my name alex, look forward to its arrival .
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hi Alex
can i fit a fan jet on that brush?
Bosh
Yes, you can do whatever you want to it! There is a decent area around each jet hole that is free of bristles so that you can fit whatever jets/fans/etc you want.
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hiya, will the bristles keep their shape with hot water?
Whilst they haven't been designed for hot water use, they should be fine with water up to about 60-70 degrees.
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Alex, how did you get on with the different brush company troubles that you went through? Is this company that makes them okay? Trustworty, and a good steady stock supply?
Was the first batch of brushes of that company immediately satisfactory?
How does it splay Alex? Have you ever used a Tucker, how would you rate this brush compared to the Tucker? Just as good, or perhaps better?
No troubles with dirt being stuck in the bristles?
How did you get to this design? For instance why a certain amount of bristles per hole, and not more or less? Why those bristles exactly? What are they called?
Are you happy with the weight? How does it feel on a SLX and SL2?
You might have missed my questions, if you don't like answering them, it's fine. :)
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The new company seems to be spot-on, the brush is as designed and ahead of schedule. Next few production runs already booked in.
The brush splays very well, which seems to work well with our light pole range.
I have used a Tucker brush and I think that they are very nice to use. How would I rate it in comparison? Difficult to do because it depends on each individuals likes and dislikes.
I have been using these brushes (in prototype form) now for over a year and they are very good at free-rinsing the dirt away. If you are the type of worker who like to rinse with the brush on the glass then these will do the job very well.
How did we get to this design? Trial and error and seeing what else worked from the brush world. There are some natural limits to things like bristle tuft size etc.
Am I happy with the weight? NO! I want it even lighter!
The brush feels very good used on our range of poles, as it should because it has been designed to complement them.
All in all I am well pleased with it as our first 'own' brush, we are already working on the next brush project.
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Thanks for answering those questions, just a little glimpse into how things get into existance.
About the Tucker, do they both splay similarly? Have they got similar cleaning power? Everyone seems to be going on about how great they are, but it's expensive, and a hassle modifying it. If this is just as good, then it's a no brainer.
Unforuntately, money is tight atm, wedding at the end of the year. But I'm already looking forward to using it with my SLX. :)
Thank you so much Alex for all of this, really happy about all your products.
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alex great videos on yr youtube site,nice and simple and far better than an explanation over the phone......put more up,cheers.
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Weight Comparison
Measured by myself using a brand new digital scale.
Original Super-Lite brush 234g
New Super-Lite Brush 270g
Ionics Multipole Crinckle mono 356g
Ionics Multipole straight mono (new) 408g
Vikan Rectangular mono 495g
Had no idea my Ionics brush was heavier then the crinckle one, 400g, that's quite heavy, can't wait to use the new brush. \o/
Now when is that Carbonfibre stock coming out. j/k, wouldn't be practical with brickwork. ;)
I think the office should do a brainstorm for the name new of the brush, or call the old Super-Lite bentley or something. To have a clear destinction between the brushes, because the new one is far superior then the old one, the old one only was good for it's weight personally speaking.
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I will have to look into the possibilities of a carbon fibre stock. How does £100 per brush sound? ;D
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I will have to look into the possibilities of a carbon fibre stock. How does £100 per brush sound? ;D
Count me in! ;D :P
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Alex are you going to do a light weight sill brush??
Stuart
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Alex are you going to do a light weigth sill brush??
Stuart
We would certainly like to be able to do so, time will tell. :)
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:o :o :o £38.72 delivered :o :o :o
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alex, you got mail. (i hope)
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:o :o :o £38.72 delivered :o :o :o
Yes, by Limo (Bentley probably).
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:o :o :o £38.72 delivered :o :o :o
Does sound a lot doesn't it, but then a Bentley brush delivered would cost £17.63 and I believe some people have paid even more than that for them on eBay. The new brush will probably last about 4-5 times longer than a Bentley brush thereby saving the user at least £31.80. Sounds a bit better like that. Oh and it also cleans better :)
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I think that's a pretty good price actually, considering how expensive a Tucker brush is (£50+), this is probably right up there with the Tucker, quality wise, so I'm not sure it's that much of a big deal.
Sell one or two old brushes, and your almost there, which is what I'm going to do, I will sell my super lite and Vikan brush on eBay, and voila. :)
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I believe some people have paid even more than that for them on eBay.
Someone paid over £20 for one once ;) ;)
You never now i might buy one my self yet until then ill stick with my Salmons !!
All the best
Marcus...
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I believe some people have paid even more than that for them on eBay.
Someone paid over £20 for one once ;) ;)
You never now i might buy one my self yet until then ill stick with my Salmons !!
All the best
Marcus...
8)
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So who's used it already? We need reviews. :)
Luke? NWH? anyone??
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Alex,
do you have many in stock i am on holiday near St Austell from next week for 2 weeks and will come get one and few other bits n bobs ;D ;)
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Alex,
do you have many in stock i am on holiday near St Austell from next week for 2 weeks and will come get one and few other bits n bobs ;D ;)
We do have plenty in stock, so feel free to come and buy!!
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Alex,
do you have many in stock i am on holiday near St Austell from next week for 2 weeks and will come get one and few other bits n bobs ;D ;)
We do have plenty in stock, so feel free to come and buy!!
Great,i`ll look forward to my visit ;D ;)
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Alex,
do you have many in stock i am on holiday near St Austell from next week for 2 weeks and will come get one and few other bits n bobs ;D ;)
You must be coinning it in !!!!! Well done , keep it up LOL
We do have plenty in stock, so feel free to come and buy!!
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270 g. Nice wt
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alex should these not come has standard on sl2 has thats what there made for(i think)?
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alex should these not come has standard on sl2 has thats what there made for(i think)?
You have mail.
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Is there any discount for SL2 & SL-X users? :)
Like a Superlite 1 brush to superlite 2 brush upgrade?
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Is there any discount for SL2 & SL-X users? :)
Like a Superlite 1 brush to superlite 2 brush upgrade?
You have mail.
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Can i have some mail to please lol. ;D
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Alex did my email get to you? They said in the office earlier both my brushes and ptfe would be sent out today. Luke
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Alex did my email get to you? They said in the office earlier both my brushes and ptfe would be sent out today. Luke
You have mail as well :)
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thanks!!!!
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Sorry I didn't get back to you today Alex, I had no signal!
Do I have mail? :-\ :)
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Sorry I didn't get back to you today Alex, I had no signal!
Do I have mail? :-\ :)
You do now :)
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This is my email address if anyone needs it (trying to avoid getting this topic locked!!).
alex@agardiner.co.uk
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What are the best jets for these and why?
(does that help?) ;)
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(it does ;) )
The best jets are the ones that you like best!!!
There is plenty of bristle space around the jet position so that almost any jets can be fitted if required. My personal favourite is still standard 2mm pencil jets.
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I'm used to 3mm pencil jets.
Perhaps I should trial one with 2mm & one with 3mm?
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just added a request to kirsty for 2 X of your new brushes, to compliment my very recently purchased slx and sl2... all discounts welcome alex!!
greg
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I'm used to 3mm pencil jets.
Perhaps I should trial one with 2mm & one with 3mm?
I would not want to be seen influencing you on this critical decision! You can always swap them later on as they take the same size hole in the stock.
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I'm used to 3mm pencil jets.
Perhaps I should trial one with 2mm & one with 3mm?
Stop dithering ya girl !!! Be a man and make a decision !
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hi Alex :)
i was hoping to get a little discount today, as i have ordered two of your poles.
:'( :'( ;D
Bosh
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I haven't ordered any poles,.. but since it seems to be "Lets ask Alex for a discount" day,... I'd hate to feel I wasn't doing my bit!!
;) :)
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[I haven't ordered any poles,.. but since it seems to be "Lets ask Alex for a discount" day,... I'd hate to feel I wasn't doing my bit!!
;D ;D
is not harm asking.
regards
Bosh
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Hi Alex, followed Nat over from his forum to get in on the 'big discount' everyone seems to be talking about!! :)
If there is any speciual offers for SL2 owners (especially those who bought the full SL56!!!) then I'd like some of the action!!!! brush looks great - nice work.
Chris
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LOL,.. I'll be ordering one (waiting till the SL2's are back in stock),.. and I for one think it looks like its worth every penny of the list price.
Not that I have anything against discounts of course!
;)
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had a look on the gardiners site - looks a very nice brush - and for clearview, its a big deal actually mate, less weight at the end of the pole, better bristle splay etc
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Hi Alex, followed Nat over from his forum to get in on the 'big discount' everyone seems to be talking about!! :)
If there is any speciual offers for SL2 owners (especially those who bought the full SL56!!!) then I'd like some of the action!!!! brush looks great - nice work.
Chris
Please give me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk
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Brush on the way, spoke to Kirsty, lovely person. \o/ ^_^
Thanks Alex.
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my brush came this morning quick delivery, first impressions when i opened it was looks good felt light, i used it this morning an i like it its not to stiff, quite soft removed dried on bird crap well in basic it seems the right brush, popped home for lunch to write this gonna carry on this afternoon with the brush, i do need to change the jets later just for personal taste, in a word Alex this is the brush well done finally a good brush on the market well done that man.
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hi alex glad your online. did my order go out today.
steve.
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You have mail.
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many thanks.
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as regards to my earlier comments on the new brush, spent the rest of the day use in it , i like it even more its defiantly the brush for me, spot on alex pukka brush
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Alex,
The new beush looks very good mate, I'm tempted.
Pro
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Used it today.
Positive points :
Lightweight, means that awkward angles are much easier to do.
Splays nicely, but stiff enough to do some good scrubbing, happy with how it feels
Brush doesn't retain much dirt, which is very good, did two new cleans today, brush got a bit dirty, but came out quite well, happy to see that I can actually see the dirt cuz it's white.
What I am puzzled about is, why are there so many bristles removed, it's almost not Dual trim anymore, more like single trim, there needs to be more inner trim bristles no doubt.
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Used it today.
Positive points :
Lightweight, means that awkward angles are much easier to do.
Splays nicely, but stiff enough to do some good scrubbing, happy with how it feels
Brush doesn't retain much dirt, which is very good, did two new cleans today, brush got a bit dirty, but came out quite well, happy to see that I can actually see the dirt cuz it's white.
What I am puzzled about is, why are there so many bristles removed, it's almost not Dual trim anymore, more like single trim, there needs to be more inner trim bristles no doubt.
Point noted.
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What I am puzzled about is, why are there so many bristles removed, it's almost not Dual trim anymore, more like single trim, there needs to be more inner trim bristles no doubt.
i had wondered this myself, Luke
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It is to allow a variety of jets to be used without having to start pulling bristles out. I do agree however that we could do with adding a few more bristles back in. This is the advantage of having the first few production runs in the hundreds rather than the thousands as customer feedback can be easily incorporated into the next ones.
We have a single-trim version coming out next week that is slightly lighter again.
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It is to allow a variety of jets to be used without having to start pulling bristles out. I do agree however that we could do with adding a few more bristles back in. This is the advantage of having the first few production runs in the hundreds rather than the thousands as customer feedback can be easily incorporated into the next ones.
We have a single-trim version coming out next week that is slightly lighter again.
As you know alex if you use 2mm jets you only need enough of a gap for a free flow of water,pack it full of bristles the type of bristles that you`ve used bounce back to there origanal place so i reckon there`s room for a good few more in the brush.
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I have to agree having used it for a couple of days i would certainaly like to see more bristles as for everything else cant fault it personaly i just hope it's tuff enough to last for a while..
Paul
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Got mine today and couldn't believe how few bristles there were - bearing in mind i had just been using a vikan mono. Initial impressions were how unstable the brush felt, i couldn't get it to splay evenly, sometimes it splayed outwards and sometimes inwards. Couldn't get the angle right because it's a very narrow brush. Anyone coming from a Vikan mono will find it strange i'm sure. I'm hoping it's going to be like one of those cd's you buy but hate at first but turn out to be one your all time favourites. Have to say it looks good, cleans well but would agree with Lukes comments particularly about stability. I don't think it's a brush for everything but for purely glass cleaning it seems very good.
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I have to agree having used it for a couple of days i would certainaly like to see more bristles as for everything else cant fault it personaly i just hope it's tuff enough to last for a while..
Paul
The bristles should last for a good couple of years in standard use.
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Also what I found is, that the screw plate has been screwed too hard to the stock, making the stock bent a little bit in the middle. Doesn't seem to effect bristle length though.
Also, you can see where they used the staples in the the top corner, and lower corner. Little bumps coming out, I only realised they were staples because the metal of one of the staples started to show. That's purely cosmetic though. :)
Excellent brush though, works very well on glass.
There were one or two instances today, that I would have preferred my stiffer Ionics multipole brush, one window had rosepetals dried on it, and they were very difficult to shift, I don't think I would have had that problem with the Ionics as much. I'm absolutely not saying that the brush needs to be stiffer, just that for very dirty frame cleans, a slightly stiffer brush could be better, also I had one window were there was some yellow/orange muck on there, like from a bee or something, that didn't come off. Then again now that I've used this brush, I really would not like to go back to the Ionics, it's too stiff, doesn't splay nicely. It's remarkably similar in bristle spacing, and the amount of brisltes per hole, even the bristles seem the same, just a different grade. I'm quite happy about that.
But that would probably only be for 10% of cases, I mean, a brush that can clean this well for 90% of all things you need, including being a real superlite brush, is marvellous, and a very good thing.
I hope in time I can upgrade my brush to an improved model with more bristles, and perhaps even lighter, but that might be difficult.
Alex, is there plastic available in a honeycomb or similar structure? Because I can see that being the only way to cut down the weight, there is almost not stock anyway.
Am I happy with the brush? Heck yea, for me it's absolutely in first place, never used the Tucker.
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As to the instability of the brush, see it as the Vikan being a foam surfboard, while the Super-lite is a slim pro board, more difficult to stabilise perhaps, but it's all about getting used to it, and finding that balance. Once you've found it, you're there cleaning away. I came from the Ionics brush, and that had the same problem, but worse, since it was stiffer.
There need to be tradeoffs, the Vikan is a pig on a stick weight wise, and the bristles flick around way too much, it is just not made for cleaning windows. I'm never going back to that....ever.
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I have to agree having used it for a couple of days i would certainaly like to see more bristles as for everything else cant fault it personaly i just hope it's tuff enough to last for a while..
Paul
The bristles should last for a good couple of years in standard use.
Ahh thats nice to hear :D
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Although I said in the other post, about perhaps needing a stiffer brush for frames, I did one house today, with never pvc, and the brush cleaned it very very well. Excellent I would even say.
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Got mine today and couldn't believe how few bristles there were - bearing in mind i had just been using a vikan mono. Initial impressions were how unstable the brush felt, i couldn't get it to splay evenly, sometimes it splayed outwards and sometimes inwards. Couldn't get the angle right because it's a very narrow brush. Anyone coming from a Vikan mono will find it strange i'm sure. I'm hoping it's going to be like one of those cd's you buy but hate at first but turn out to be one your all time favourites. Have to say it looks good, cleans well but would agree with Lukes comments particularly about stability. I don't think it's a brush for everything but for purely glass cleaning it seems very good.
Anyone using a vikan mono should find it a dream,you can`t compare a vikan mono to that brush at all there`s no comparison.If you want a brush that jumps around all over the glass then carry on using the vikan.
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I can understand everyones dislike of the vikan but i have gone back to it after going thorough a number of other brushes. The reason i keep going back to it is the jets - the best fan jets that i have seen , the other brushes i have tried seem to have no power behind them and have no confidence with them when you have to lift off to rinse.
Is it just me or are vikan fanjets superior?
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Which supplier do you get your Vikans from? Vikan don't actually make jets, they are added by the supplier. Most brushes will take fanjets so if you have a particular make of jet that you like, you should be able to have them fitted to whatever brush you want.
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Got mine today and ..........
Anyone using a vikan mono should find it a dream,you can`t compare a vikan mono to that brush at all there`s no comparison.If you want a brush that jumps around all over the glass then carry on using the vikan.
:) ;D :) ;D
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Which supplier do you get your Vikans from? Vikan don't actually make jets, they are added by the supplier. Most brushes will take fanjets so if you have a particular make of jet that you like, you should be able to have them fitted to whatever brush you want.
Would the jets that can fit a vikan fit your brush?
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Which supplier do you get your Vikans from? Vikan don't actually make jets, they are added by the supplier. Most brushes will take fanjets so if you have a particular make of jet that you like, you should be able to have them fitted to whatever brush you want.
Would the jets that can fit a vikan fit your brush?
The jets in the new brush are 2mm.
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I think the powerful fan jets i have originally came from varitech
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Alex
Will you be getting you people to do a lightweight sill brush
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The thing with the Vikan Mono is that it's so dense and chunky that i find it perfect as a clean everything brush - frames, doors, glass and conservatory roofs. You can use it at odd angles and get away with it. The Superlight needs a bit more finesse and is totally different in feel and splay and has longer bristles. I wouldn't attempt a conservatory roof with it but will be very happy with it at forty feet. This is just a first impression and with more use i'm sure i will like it more. I didn't like the clamps on the SL-X to start with. :)
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I can understand everyones dislike of the vikan but i have gone back to it after going thorough a number of other brushes. The reason i keep going back to it is the jets - the best fan jets that i have seen , the other brushes i have tried seem to have no power behind them and have no confidence with them when you have to lift off to rinse.
Is it just me or are vikan fanjets superior?
Take em out of your brush, make hole bigger in Superlite brush, and fit them. Done. :)
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I can understand everyones dislike of the vikan but i have gone back to it after going thorough a number of other brushes. The reason i keep going back to it is the jets - the best fan jets that i have seen , the other brushes i have tried seem to have no power behind them and have no confidence with them when you have to lift off to rinse.
Is it just me or are vikan fanjets superior?
Take em out of your brush, make hole bigger in Superlite brush, and fit them. Done. :)
Sorry , but do you post in several names ?
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I think the powerful fan jets i have originally came from varitech
We supply the same fan jets, which we can fit to the new brush if required.
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I can understand everyones dislike of the vikan but i have gone back to it after going thorough a number of other brushes. The reason i keep going back to it is the jets - the best fan jets that i have seen , the other brushes i have tried seem to have no power behind them and have no confidence with them when you have to lift off to rinse.
Is it just me or are vikan fanjets superior?
Take em out of your brush, make hole bigger in Superlite brush, and fit them. Done. :)
Sorry , but do you post in several names ?
Had one or two different names yes.
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I think the powerful fan jets i have originally came from varitech
We supply the same fan jets, which we can fit to the new brush if required.
In that case i would like to order one , i cant see fan jets on the web site , whwn i call up do i just ask for fan jets or do the jets i want have a specific name?
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Just got back in from a lazy mornings work and this brush is really starting to grow on me. It will clean in some very tight spots with ease, splays up into the top seal to get the spiders out and is very user friendly. You can see it's been well thought out - the stock is as minimal as you can get with rounded corners and seems to be just thick enough to hold Gardiners jets. Something else i found out is how easy it will fit up behind a gutter so if you start making single trim Alex, i rekon a short brush of about five inches with very narrow jets would make an excellent gutter/soffit/fascia brush.
Even with the reletively sparse bristles it still scrubs well. I haven't worked out how the dual trim bit works yet as the shorter bristles feel the same as the long ones - i was expecting something like a scrrubbing brush in the center. Have to remember Alex has been using a prototype for some time so it should be good and i think it is.
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Yea, interesting that you say that, I thought of the same thing, getting the Vikan in between the guttering was a real pain, this should be very nice for that.
Also with patio doors, I don't bash the handle anymore, it's quite low profile, very nice. :)
Gonna do my own house now, and take my time nicely.
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Alex
do you have any plans of making this brush in a larger size ?
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Yes I do.
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Yes I do.
Is it you that rips the bristles out or the manufacturing company, just wondering as I use pencil jets and ideally I'd like more bristles (seen the video and looks like it needs less ripping out).
Is that your plan?
I'd like to order but will wait till you revise, if you do ;D
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No bristle-ripping is done by myself! We have them manufactured as they are. The next batch we are planning on having a slightly smaller gap around the jet hole.
We do have a single trim version coming out next week which has a far greater density of bristles.
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I think the powerful fan jets i have originally came from varitech
We supply the same fan jets, which we can fit to the new brush if required.
In that case i would like to order one , i cant see fan jets on the web site , whwn i call up do i just ask for fan jets or do the jets i want have a specific name?
Just ask for fan jets when you ring the Office, you will be charged extra and they will be fitted.
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wheres my email ?
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Alex. You have mail.
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Alex. You have mail.
I sent an email 7.40pm this evening?
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Alex,
Are the bristles straight or crinkled like the Salmon bush?
Is your Brush lighter then a Salmon?
Does it scrub better then a Salmon brush?
I like the salmon brush due to its weight and the fact that it seams to glide over the glass and it keeps its shape superbly.I have had salmon brushes on my poles for over 2 years with very little wear and the bristles are still holding their shape.
I dont use the salmon on my mini poles as I dont like how it scrubs on the window and the weight is not an issue downstairs, So I use the vikan on my mini poles I just wished the salmon brushes had that same feel of something substanial like the vikan when you put some pressure on the glass.
From the pictures and video I watched your brush seams on par with the salmon in terms of splay of the bristles when putting pressure on the glass, ie not a lot of resistance like a vikan brush.
Are the bristles longer then a salmon brushs bristles?
Power to your elbow for trying to improve brushes for wfp use.
Mucha respect to you.
Neil
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If you like salmon brushes you will find this brush ideal,you`ll end up using it on the short poles aswell.It has every quality of the salmon and the flocked vikan in 1,the bristles are straight.
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Alex,
Are the bristles straight or crinkled like the Salmon bush?
Is your Brush lighter then a Salmon?
Does it scrub better then a Salmon brush?
I like the salmon brush due to its weight and the fact that it seams to glide over the glass and it keeps its shape superbly.I have had salmon brushes on my poles for over 2 years with very little wear and the bristles are still holding their shape.
I dont use the salmon on my mini poles as I dont like how it scrubs on the window and the weight is not an issue downstairs, So I use the vikan on my mini poles I just wished the salmon brushes had that same feel of something substanial like the vikan when you put some pressure on the glass.
From the pictures and video I watched your brush seams on par with the salmon in terms of splay of the bristles when putting pressure on the glass, ie not a lot of resistance like a vikan brush.
Are the bristles longer then a salmon brushs bristles?
Power to your elbow for trying to improve brushes for wfp use.
Mucha respect to you.
Neil
The bristles are straight mono-filament, micro-variation, dual-trim (single trim version out next week).
The brush is lighter than the Salmon brush (well at least the ones that I have a cross section of)
Does it scrub better, I think so, but then I never really got on with Salmon brushes so most brushes do scrub better in my opinion. (brush taste is quite a personal thing!)
We tried to get a brush that splayed easily but still offered great scrubbing ability from the bristles. Hopefully we have achieved that.
The bristles are slightly longer than the Salmon bristles.
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If you like salmon brushes you will find this brush ideal,you`ll end up using it on the short poles aswell.It has every quality of the salmon and the flocked vikan in 1,the bristles are straight.
How are you getting on with it NWH? Happy with it?
@ Alex, yea I think you really got an ideal balance between scrubbing power, and splay, ie not too stiff. I'm really starting to like this brush the more I use it.
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Very much an individual thing brushes, i had a Salmon brush, a green one with crinkled mono bristles, very dense but really didn't think much of it, it should have had mega scrubbing power but i found a cheap Addis brush with less bristles worked better.
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Alex. You have mail.
I sent an email 7.40pm this evening?
??? last email was off anna on the 22nd ish (tinnyboy_1@hotmail.com).
Have been away and these new brushes sound V good for my SL2/SL-X as I was sent a vikan with my slx.
Hope everyones enjoying their new poles, I certainly am, I always thought the fishing pole type would be rubbish!, How wrong I was.
Steve a
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Steve, you can't in any way compare them to a fishing pole. Except that the SL2 is modular.
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hi
been using this brush for a few days now, and can quite honestly say this is the best brush i have ever used- and i have tried a fair few.firstly its scrubbing power is spot on , the double trim part works well , esp. for brush on rinsing , where i find holding lightly, the outer brissels have just the the right amount of stiffness to hold the inner rows of bissels of glass , so no brissels fowl jets when rinsing brush on.
well done alex
daz
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Alex
Will you be getting you people to do a lightweight sill brush
How about answering this one, Alex? I've been asking for a lightweight sill brush for a couple of years now, but nobody takes any notice.
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Alex
Will you be getting you people to do a lightweight sill brush
How about answering this one, Alex? I've been asking for a lightweight sill brush for a couple of years now, but nobody takes any notice.
You have mail.
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Alex. You have mail.
I sent an email 7.40pm this evening?
??? last email was off anna on the 22nd ish (tinnyboy_1@hotmail.com).
Have been away and these new brushes sound V good for my SL2/SL-X as I was sent a vikan with my slx.
Hope everyones enjoying their new poles, I certainly am, I always thought the fishing pole type would be rubbish!, How wrong I was.
Steve a
Third attempt Steve! Check your spam maybe? It's coming from my own email (alex@agardiner.co.uk) not the office email.
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I find that the brush stays remarkably clean, even on dirty first cleans. My brush started to get all grey on a bad first clean, second (normal) clean I did, it was white again. Never had a white brush before, so I'm spending a lot of time inspecting the brush.
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Steve, you can't in any way compare them to a fishing pole. Except that the SL2 is modular.
Doh 'xcuse me Tim but if push comes to shove the SL2 is (in my humble opinion) from a company called Garbolino which make pretty good fishing poles.
Ok so you dont actually use the top 3 or 4 sections of the fishing pole and after section 6 or so of the gardiner pole they are all parallel, but they are based on a FISHING POLE, albeit chopped and shaped and reinforced to result in an excellent piece of window cleaning kit. Well done Alex and Co.
All the above should be taken in the context it was written in ;D ??? ::) :P ;D
Time for another Bacardi. LOL
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:)All quiet on the (north) western front). 8)
Alex. Thanks for the mail, got that one, probable reason the new software installed for emails. Shows some and doesn't show others, based on the fairer sex i'd hazard a guess. Your reply is and was appreciated and will be ordering shortly.
Steve a
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Steve, you can't in any way compare them to a fishing pole. Except that the SL2 is modular.
Doh 'xcuse me Tim but if push comes to shove the SL2 is (in my humble opinion) from a company called Garbolino which make pretty good fishing poles.
Ok so you dont actually use the top 3 or 4 sections of the fishing pole and after section 6 or so of the gardiner pole they are all parallel, but they are based on a FISHING POLE, albeit chopped and shaped and reinforced to result in an excellent piece of window cleaning kit. Well done Alex and Co.
All the above should be taken in the context it was written in ;D ??? ::) :P ;D
Time for another Bacardi. LOL
We'll see if Alex can confirm or deny that statement. :)
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Quote from: Paul Griffin on July 24, 2008, 08:58:35 PM
Alex
Will you be getting you people to do a lightweight sill brush
Ian lancaster said
How about answering this one, Alex? I've been asking for a lightweight sill brush for a couple of years now, but nobody takes any notice.
Alex gardiner said -
You have mail.
Who's got mail myself or ian as i would like to know
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Quote from: Paul Griffin on July 24, 2008, 08:58:35 PM
Alex
Will you be getting you people to do a lightweight sill brush
Ian lancaster said
How about answering this one, Alex? I've been asking for a lightweight sill brush for a couple of years now, but nobody takes any notice.
Alex gardiner said -
You have mail.
Who's got mail myself or ian as i would like to know
Both of you now!!
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Thankyou
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Alex, could you also let me know when the superlite sill brush will be out
i need one yesterday
thankyou
Brett
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Alex, could you also let me know when the superlite sill brush will be out
i need one yesterday
thankyou
Brett
You have mail.
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Hi Alex
mail recieved thankyou
for now i will order one of your dual trim sl brushes and gooseneck
thankyou 8)
Brett
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Alex you have mail.
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I'm a bit suprised how little feedback there is, when the SL-X came out the forum was on fire, seems like not everyone wants to share their experiences with it? ???
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I will be receiving the full trim version too, I look forward to testing that soon, Luke
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I used the new brush for the whole day today, I must say I'm very impressed. It has good scrubbing power and is brilliant to rinse on. Did my mums place today after work not been done for months and rinsed on with perfect results. The White bristles are really good you can see how dirty the brush is from the ground, I found it quite enducational today seeing what places the brush was getting dirty on.
The water just seems to fall out the bottom of the brush. I think I'd like to see more middle bristles but I don't know if it would effect the rinse on ability and the scrubbing ability of the beush is good all ready, easily taking out bird doings.
Simon.
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Found mine a bit slow on snails trails on the glass today. It seems to scrub in a different way to other bushes. Vikans seem to scrub with the tips whereas this brush scrubs better when splayed. Stock is quite flexible and bends easily but doesn't seem to be a problem. Doesn't hold much dirt, at least it shouldn't curl up and clog like a flocked Bentley.
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Used it on new and old leadedlights, and it works very well, flows over the glass quite nicely. Very happy with it.
Has anyone noticed, that at extreme angles over flat roofs, the brush seems to grind to a halt when you go over a certain angle? I've had it only with beading windows today, so that might have had a lot to do with it, but I can't remember if my old Ionics did that too. Interesting.
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No bristle-ripping is done by myself! We have them manufactured as they are. The next batch we are planning on having a slightly smaller gap around the jet hole.
We do have a single trim version coming out next week which has a far greater density of bristles.
let me know when single trim version is ready as i was gonna order another one today till i read this