Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: John Gregory on July 16, 2008, 05:03:33 pm
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picked these rugs up off a customer today .I don't come across many rugs, the one's I do either come from B and Q , or Ikea , All I know is they where bought in Iran about 15 years ago , they are very dirty , and the customer thinks they are worth a couple of quid .
Question 1 are they worth anything
Question 2 Are they up to a Dave special ie hose pipe
Thanks John
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John
pic of the back close up more useful. Presume you know they are wool?
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John I wouldnt do a Dave special myself on these.
Check fibre they could be wool or even have a silk look to them in the picture.
Either way, vacc the arse off them with an upholstery vac tool ( soft brush) then prespray with m/s aggitate with soft brush and extract with low moisture hand tool CFR etc ( would not use a fllod jet hand tool on these) treat fringes as you normaly would.
£50 - £75 a rug ;)
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John, do they have a leather or synthetic leather "strap" stitched on the outer edge length ways? If so I would take them off before cleaning as of course you are going to clean both sides.
You can then stitch them back on or in all of my cases I leave them off.
Anyway, these rugs are perfect to saturate or immerse so by all means clean them this way. It will be a good experience for you as you shouldnt have any problems at all.
As for value, it depends on too many things. If none of the "things" are attributed to these textiles then they arent worth anything, save what you can get for them.
Best, Dave.
P.S. Sometimes these rugs have silk in them but dont worry as silk wet cleans the same as the wool.
P.P.S. Just saw Pauls post, dont be scared, soak the thing.
Wool and silk both wet clean very well, if you use an injection type cleaning you run the risk of fibre damage to the silk yarns.
Again, these are ideal for your first, if it is your first, saturation clean
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Bugger, he got there before me. They look a little like isfahans Dave if not at least persian and no disrecpect Paul but £50-75 seems way too low and I know for sure that Dave will agree with that. Definite saturation jobbies.
John
I have some of the solution that Dave uses for scrubbing if you want a bit. I'll post it up.
Pete
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Sorry but,
How do you know they are not cheapo copies, can you tell that the fringe isn't just sewn on and it's not knotted?
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can we have a picture of the backing? close up
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jst seen the left one bottom right fringe.
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here you go a pic of the backs
Thanks john
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try again
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John Kelly does a rubber brush for matted fringes. Suggest you get one (if they are not too bad)
Pete
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John,
Thats the tops! They have been cleaned before note the blue run into the light areas and the fringe.
Dave.
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Dave its the back . clad you noticed the colour run on the fringe . me bum is starting to clench a bit .
John
Ps . I only quoted £100 for the 2
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I cleaned 3 similar last week, and having read so much about Dave,s methods I was eager to give them a go :D must admit I was apprehensive, but after chatting to JK , his reasurences gave me the confidence .
The final results were great , will not think twice again when cleaning this type of rug.
what i did find amazing was the amount of dirty water , i couldnt believe it
geoff
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I want to try this too, whats the best solution to scrub with?
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I used nemesis, soaked the rugs in the solution, aggited with cimex for around 5 mins and left for another 10 mins to dwell . flushed out with hose pipe then speed dried outside " please no comments regarding fading because of drying outside ;D"
what I did find handy was one of those blow up paddling pools great for soaking the rugs in :)
geoff
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Did you go over it with you wand after hosing it down?
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davep. there are various chemicals you can use or solutions as it would appear chemicals are being called these days.
Whatever you would use to clean wool with will be fine. Boat loads if you need to as because the chemical will be 100% rinsed out it doesnt matter.
John Kelly sent me some pink stuff when I was waiting for my stuff to arrive and it worked fine, I just cant remember what it was called.
Again, as long as it is suitable for wool then it doesnt matter.
The proper stuff of which there are many are exceptionally high foaming, I would imagine that what you use to clean wool carpets as is the pink stuff is anything but high foaming.
Best, Dave.
P.S. It is the water rinse that is as important as the cleaning solution.
The drying of course is very important but for now we are talking about cleaning.
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Dave, that pink stuff was Nemesis degreaser which is basically a colloid with added Biosolve. Didn't know you were going to use it on rugs ;D
Dave I think the colloidal cleaner you use is exceptionally high foaming because of the dilution you use it at. Colloidals dilute down readily to 100-150 to 1 used in higher concentrations they will produce a lot of foam which in this situation is probably beneficial. And it looks good.
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John, I think the stuff was called liquid woolsafe or liquid woolcare, something like that.
The degreaser stuff was for something quite different, which worked superbly.
Not sure if I would use it on rugs or not, not I am sure.
Best, Dave.
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Are right I know what you mean now. Yes liquid woolsafe from Craftex. Degreasers really for hard surfaces.
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I would not have a problem hosing them down.
This is Wayne doing it
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Len
Did you get any passing trade? ;D
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passing out me thinks :D
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Mike
A couple of people walked in to the pole by the BT van, thank god they weren’t driving a car ;), have had a few ask is that how you clean rugs yes but this is the dry cleaning side of my business. 8)
And yes three so far the word it getting around.
If you like I could send you some pictures to add to you portfolio ;D
Len
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bet that keeps the neighbours entertained ;)
steve
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Dave's got a better tan than Wayne
John
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John G
He leads solitude life he really perks up when I say rugs the out door life.
Len
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John G
I'm really very tanned but went as white as a ghost when i saw Len putting a tsunami on to that rug ;)
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Len
Your a lazy sod, using a tarp instead of pressure washing the drive.
Got my own thanks, with poo scum on them too. ;D
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Going back to the type of rug being asked about. Here is one I did earlier so to speak.
Same style but I would imagine a little better in quality.
It was saturated as you can see and it came out fine.
Best, Dave.
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Thats the cleaning Dave.
What about the drying?
How do you handle the bigger ones which must be heavy when wet.
Whattime scale do you work in?
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Is that the £8k silk one you bought into mine Dave?
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Dave L what a difference from 12 months ago.
Now after the CCDO the guys have got so much more confidence in cleaning rugs and the results thy are now getting are far better. 8)
Its good to see this all round ;) enthusiasim ,even old Len ;D ( old dog new tricks) is getting stuck in.
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Paul, yes it is very nice to see and hear.
Pete, I have been canoeing since I saw you the weekend save a small job I did for one of Mike's clients. So I havent cleaned the one you saw yet.
Joe, I hang mine at the end of the day so they can be a little lighter. Other than that Deb and I just man handle them onto a timber bar and then hoist them up.
Best, Dave.
P.S. It will be another good experience for those interested in rug cleaning at the event organised by the N.C.C.A. They will have much more time to go into saturation cleaning and submersion cleaning and see for them selves how it is done, especially for those who couldnt or didnt attend the CCDO. Maybe they have a pit instead which is ideal.
They will also see how to use an airline which I didnt have time to go into too much. If they have a heated drying room to see that is quite a sight too. I must admit I miss the drying room I had in the states.
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Dave L what a difference from 12 months ago.
Now after the CCDO the guys have got so much more confidence in cleaning rugs and the results thy are now getting are far better. 8)
Its good to see this all round ;) enthusiasim ,even old Len ;D ( old dog new tricks) is getting stuck in.
This is what raising the bar is all about, not just better for some of us but better for the industry as it gets taken to new levels with the likes of what you and Dave do.
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Dave i have forgotten, I assume do you clean the back first with the Rotary?
What kind of rotary brush are you guys using would broken in Nylon be OK?
Mark
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Nice rugs John..............Persian Nains
colin.
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Mark, I soak the face fibres first then turn it over to soak the back.
Clean and rinse as needed.
Turn it face fibre up and then soak again.
Then clean and rinse untill it rinses clean water.
If its really soiled then I would turn it over and over again cleaning and rinsing each time.
Best, Dave.
P.S. Last pictures, this is the silk one Pete was refering too.
This is a rug that needs to be continually brushed, either as it is drying which is best but certainly after it has dried. See my last post about drying rooms, this is definately when I needed one.
The pictures are from opposite directions for obvious reasons, its still wet and will look much better when dried and groomed.
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cheers Dave