Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: carpetworx on July 16, 2008, 11:37:52 am
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Just bought a new boxxer,and has been fitted to my swb trafic,but the sol/water hose reels wont fit on the vac hose reel(not any room).Was wondering if any one on here,has any pics of what could be done,is there a way of fixing them to the roof?(inside of coarse).
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will post pics when it's all finished. 8)
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Hydramaster do a solution hose reel
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Dave Liahona recently posted some pics of his newly fitted-out van with the reels on the roof. I think he just fixed some batons across the roof supports and then fixed the reels to them, but can't remember exactly.
Why did you try to squeeze a boxxer into a SWB? :-/
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fix it to your rear door.
I used to have mine there, my solution line reel had a central pivot on a piece of angle iron which originally bolted onto the leg of the vac hose reel.
I took off the bottom plastic panel of the rear door, this gave me access to the inside of the centre brace section of the door. I drilled through the brace panel and inserted bolts form the inside, outwards, I then bolted a piece of box section steel onto the door. My hosereel bolted onto this.
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Mines a swb Sprinter, I don't quite understand why you have a problem, here's a pic
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Neat and tidy that is Dave.
How many feet on the reels?
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like where you got the ramp dave, like the skinny hose reel, john at hydra never gave me that option, or have to fashioned it yourself
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300 on solution, 200 on vac, if I need more vac for a specific job I just put a couple of extra coils in
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Hydramaster made it to my spec. I find that with HM you can get what you need although sometimes you have to be quite firm ::) ;) with them . With other suppliers you don't have an option because they just import and resell std items
HM can supply a kit to mount the ramps on the back door, it's very good if not a tad expensive, the brackets on mine are from the DIY, about £8
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my mates a welder, would it be feasible to cut 6 inches out of the middle, cant say ive had all the hose reel off to have a look. only ever used 50 so far allthough i think i'll need 100 tomoz for 2 beds in a 5 bedder.
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Thanks for your help guys,Dave,thats a great set up you have,but my van is way smaller,I've got the machine mounted in the rear,beside the hose reel.What sort of fresh water reel is that,and how is it fitted to the roof?
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here's a pic.
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try again.
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here i go again.(http://)
i give up.(http://)(http://)
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It's not finnished yet.
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OK I understand now, that is tight! If it's the garden hose reel it's a std hozelock self rewinding, you'll find them in most garden centres or a bit cheaper on the Internet. For your solution reel it's either a roof or door mount as has been suggested, HM could make either but as an alternative why not use it in coils and hang it on a hose hanger from the DIY's or Garden Centre?
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Dave
Noted your pictures above. Looks very efficient & tidy. 8)
Notice that the 427 (not a light machine), the fresh water tank (often pretty full) & the hose reels are all towards the near side of the van. Only really counter balanced by the waste tank (often not so full).
Does this cause any handling problems or unusually high tyre wear on one side?
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Certainly doesn't cause any handling problems, my Sprinters only done 5000mls so too early to say about tyre wear but on my previous Transit with a 421 and submount tank I had no problems at all. On the plus side the waste tank is the larger(100gal) tank with apo so that redresses the balance somewhat together with the fact that a lot of the weight of the 427(blower and pump) is towards the centre of the van
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I suppose i could bolt the sol/hose reel to the top of the machine!,what do you think?
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Dave
Noted your pictures above. Looks very efficient & tidy. 8)
Notice that the 427 (not a light machine), the fresh water tank (often pretty full) & the hose reels are all towards the near side of the van. Only really counter balanced by the waste tank (often not so full).
Does this cause any handling problems or unusually high tyre wear on one side?
I forgot! the van has a side step so in fact the machine is actually mounted a good 8" away from the nearside so it's probably quite central!
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I notice that HM are mounting the machines and tanks towards the rear of the vans now.
Could it be that they are aware of the weight restrictions now. I have a med wheel base tranny with a spitfire and all the tanks up front.
Now, I used to be a lorry driver so I am well aware of overloading on axles etc and it has allways bothered me how it would be if I was pulled to a weighbridge and weighed with the TM and full water tank up front.
I bet the vans would be over weight, so they now put the TM in the middle and spread the weight more evenly. Trouble is it takes all the storage space away as can be seen above.
Murky
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I would certainly like to think that all the major TM suppliers in the UK are very well aware of limits on axles and would have calculated this into their engineering.
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do you think the American makers of all the truckmounts available in this country considered our van axle weight when engineering their machines,
we have to make do with the best we can, I would think a lot of T/M owners are running around illegally in this country, illegals because being over overweight will invalidate thier insurance.
Dave Ingram was done for it ( I think)
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A FWD van with a TM and submount tank could well be above the front axle weight limit, IMO RWD is the only drivetrain that's sensible for a TM user
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Sorted,what do yer think?(http://)(http://)(http://)
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The whole thing is mounted on a type of pallett and bolted to the floor,this makes it easier for the machine to come out of the van,by just using a forklift,and presto the whole thing comes out,and i can drive off,while it's being serviced.
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I would certainly like to think that all the major TM suppliers in the UK are very well aware of limits on axles and would have calculated this into their engineering.
Mike, I was not referring to "American makers" being responsible.
So let me make my statement clearer - let me add the words "who fit" after "TM suppliers" so it now reads
I would certainly like to think that all the major TM suppliers WHO FIT in the UK are very well aware of limits on axles and would have calculated this into their engineering.
You just cant have a lump of metal and place it just anywhere. If axle weights are exceeded then the law is broken.
It doesnt take too much to do a calculation and with computers the job is made easier.
If someone sent a "lightweight" van down to HM and asked for a Titan to be fitted (assuming it would physically fit) but weight wise it would exceed the axle and gross loadings, do you think HM would take on the job?
I doubt it.
Thats what I meant.
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Dave nice and tidy van, hope it's always like that!! Mine normally starts out like that on a Monday morning but by Friday it's a different story.
Don't think I've seen a 6 jet wand before, is that the Prochem Titanium one? it must drink water like its going out of fashion.
Also whats the narrow wand used for?
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Good point joe...Am sure its only a few hours to take them down to a weighbridge an axle weight test...Did you get my e mail joe?Cheers
Hi Clinton
Last email received was 17th (Thursday)
Have you sent one since?
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Hi Lionheart
Yes thats a Prochem Titanium, but modified with Greenglide, jet extenders and non drip valves also a s/s valve and
6x 015 jets. The narrow wand (very observant!) I use for edges before the RX20 and occasionaly for draft marking
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Clinton,
Which guttervac set up?
Dave,
I've looked at the RX20 to run with the Prowler, do you find you use it much or is it only for the larger jobs, also how much time does it save?
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Carpet works do you take a porti in there with you or a buffer for l m cleaning :)
clint,no i don't use a porty anymore,and have'nt got a LM yet,but i do use a RMD.
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Lionheart, I use the rx20 a lot but only on commercial jobs, I don't think it's any quicker than a wand, maybe slower but it's a great deal easier on the operator and does a fantastic job that would often take several passes of the wand. Don't know enough about the prowler to give any advice there but I'm sure John Kelly would give his honest as ever opinion.