Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dave_Lee on July 13, 2008, 11:45:27 am
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Us owners of these superb bits of kit can tend to take them for granted, but when they literally zoom over the job, leaving a fantastic clean in their wake, we are once again convinced of their superiority when dealing with large areas so efficiently. Oh! and not forgetting the £400 that took just two hours to rake in.
Dave.
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Looks and sounds very impressive!
What area did you cover in 2 hours?
Was the carpet particulary dirty?
regards
Paul
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Hi Dave
What sort of TM power do you need to operate one of these ?
Cheers
Doug
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Simon why are you posting under Tom Bramwells name?
I know the feeling Dave.
We've got three of the HE versions lined up to do the lower level of the Britannia Restaurant on Queen Mary 2 on Wednesday, 1,649 sq yds in 3.5 hours. This will really put the Titan through its paces.
Simon
bit late their deleting it, ::) ::) really does make 'Toms' other posts interesting reading.
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Dave what procedure did you use on the carpet I see you've got a wand fitted, did you edge the room with the wand ? and it looks like you've got wand marks running down the centre, did you post wand it?
Mike
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Area was 200 sq yds, it was a dining room, never been cleaned in 5 years its been down. Grubby at serving area and doorways, with food marks where tables had been, otherwise not too bad. TM Blueline Thermal wave with a 5 blower, 250ft hose run, set to single wand operation and 200 deg F at 250 psi.
RX20 fitted with holed glides. Wanded the edges and seams also as keen eyed Mike spotted post wanded, to extract a bit more, straighten up some swirl marks and take a bit longer over the job. I mean £400 for an hour and a half might have been seen as taking the p---.
Dave.
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Mike,
There you go jumping to conclusions.
I was in Birmingham this morning on my way home from Southampton and called into to have a brew with Tom who is a friend of mine, indeed it was me that recommended this forum to him. I used Tom’s computer to add a reply to Dave Lee's topic not thinking that it would come up as Tom and not me. As soon as we realised we deleted the reply.
The trouble is you have now brought into question Tom’s input to this forum and quite unjustly so in my opinion. Rather than leaping to your own conclusion wouldn’t it have been better to have contacted me and sought an explanation off line rather than destroy Tom’s credibility in such a public way whilst at the same time accusing me of duplicity.
Simon
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I asked a simple question, don't see how its brought any ones input into question,
'destroy Tom’s credibility in such a public way' stop being so melodramatic ::) ::)
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Dave I've heard it said about the RX20 & Rotovac that it leaves quite bad swirl marks, do you think it would matter to the customers if they were left or do you think the pile needs resetting?
mike
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Mike,
Melodramatic?
I put a post on on a friends computer at 11.52 and sign it Simon even though it was Tom's log in and minutes later realise the mistake and delete it, at 12.04 you have looked at it and made a snap decision, other wise why write, 'bit late their deleting it, ::) ::)really does make Toms other posts interesting reading.' The inference being that I am Tom, or Tom is me. If that is not the inference you were making then please explain what you meant.
Everyone knows me but not so Tom and through you're over eagerness to spot something untoward you have destroyed Tom's credibility on this forum.
The word you're looking for Mike, is sorry. You may even like to withdraw the comment as you having completing misread the situation.
Simon
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Doug
A Blazer with 250ft will do.
Len
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I am confused Simon can you just post what you said under your own name,
i.e just cut and paste it when you deleted the post. log in with your detail and hey presto!
Keep it simple so we can understand it
p.s would love a shot on it if your up this way
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Doug,
You can use an RX on just about any Truck Mount from a Prowler upwards, the only difference is the speed over the carpet and the drying time with the less powerful TM's.
Simon
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mike, i find swirl marks are dependant on the amount of soiling, if it has been a minger and now it looks the dogs-doo-dahs i don't bother to brush out and never had a complaint, if the carpet was only so-so dirty i would probably try to brush out a bit or quickly go over it with a wand to set the pile,
colin
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Colin,
I have been using RX's for over 20 years and while domestic customers don't like the swirl marks, I've never had a complaint from a commercial customer who always seem to be over the moon with the result.
Simon
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Dave/ Simon
Do you pre spray before
Many thanks
Daryl
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Mike
When I used one it showed but never a problem I only ever did minger’s :'(
Doug
Simon has a point that’s why Dave has an air mover and it looks like windows open think I would need two air movers. 8)
Daryl
Do they vac ??? ;D
Len
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When I used my Extracta Exel I used to use the Scrubba Deluxe with it all the time with fantastic results.
Unfortunatley the Extracta tools are not up to the pressures of Truck Mounts, so I cannot use it with my Prowler and do miss it.
The RX may well be something worth looking at, anyone got one for sale?
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Although the RX20's last for ever an alternative could be the rotovac 360, not as heavy duty perhaps takes a little longer but about a grand cheaper, I think Nick is selling RV's aswell as Alltec.
Shaun
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I've used an extracta scrubba super 20 on nightclub carpets in the past with no problems running with a T/M, so it might be worth you giving it a try?
all the best
John
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Mike,
The swirl marks were hardly noticeable actually. As Simon stated, they are never a problem on commercials buton plain domestics can be very noticeable and difficult to brush out, thats why I only use the RX20 on commerials. They are even less noticeable since fitting he glides.
Daryl,
Yes I always prespray and at the momen I use either Prochems Pure Clean or Powerburst with either Alltecs Ultimate Master, Hydramasters Hydra-dri, or just water through the TM, depening on the situation. In this instance it was Powerburst prespray and Ultimate Master rinse, although I think I could have got away with a plain water rinse.
Dave.
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Dave
Do you not feel you need to reduce the pH with your rinse?
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Dave, not a bad hourly rate, have you increased your square footage price somewhat?
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Hourly rates are a misnomer because the bigger picture may say that you have sent out £1000 of advertising to get 1 job or that at £400 per 1.5 hours that the machinery runs itself for free, or that your 'b1tch' needs jewellery every Saturday :o
The thing is I've stopped being embarrassed when it comes to £100+ an hour because I look at the investment I make with equipment and advanced training and of course all of the bits you don't see like no holiday pay and being on call to answer the phone 24/7 and think I put my price in and put my quality and judgement in and that's my mutually accepted price and how quickly I do it is up to me, what's the point of staying there all day and doing a crap job?
Shaun
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Shaun, Amen to that 8)
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Simon
Bit like the time that you publicly accused me of being Ron King! You didn't seem to give a poo and as i remember it there was never an apology for it either!
Well done Mike i'm sure that foe pas would have sent up the alarm bells with a lot of people especially with what seemed a recent farsical Prochem thread!
Cheers Goron
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Goron I think you re being very unfair to Simon, the last thing I want is for people to read Toms post and start thinking its really Simon,
Simons explanation for using Toms User name is very plausible, and now I've thought about it it is unthinkable that Simon would pretend to be someone else this would make him out to be a lying, untrustworthy toe-rag who has insulted every member of this forum and like you say made some very slanderous comment about Prochem.
Simon I sincerly apoligies for thinking that you are 'tom'
Mike
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Back to the RX20, I used ours for the first time last month and did similar figures to the original post, bloody good bit of kit ! Nothing I have tried compares.
Regards
S
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Just read ALL TOMS !!!!!!! ? posts VERY interesting ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) if you know what i mean someone caught out me thinks :o :o :o
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Mike,
It was synthetic s no pros wit Ph, and I ave found that UM (Very diluted) brings PB down to neutral. Not teaching you to suck eggs, but dont forget most soil is acidic in nature and this fact alone will bring down the Ph of a solution. I wouldnt mix the two if it were wool.
Colin,
Just went in with my normal commercial rate, quoted over the phone, it came by recomendation.
Dave.
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Dave
You got decades of experience, far more valuable knowledge than the theory. :)
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I have Hydramaster Rotary Drimaster for Sale If anyone interested simon 07717 580085
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how much edward???
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have you decided how much you want for the rdm edward
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Hourly rates are a misnomer because the bigger picture may say that you have sent out £1000 of advertising to get 1 job or that at £400 per 1.5 hours that the machinery runs itself for free, or that your 'b1tch' needs jewellery every Saturday :o
The thing is I've stopped being embarrassed when it comes to £100+ an hour because I look at the investment I make with equipment and advanced training and of course all of the bits you don't see like no holiday pay and being on call to answer the phone 24/7 and think I put my price in and put my quality and judgement in and that's my mutually accepted price and how quickly I do it is up to me, what's the point of staying there all day and doing a crap job?
Shaun
Shaun
Would you really spend £1000 on marketing to Commercial jobs.
Thinking about maybee you would.
As most of us are mainly Domestic perhaps there is more sense to aim for big jobs
Being in a small sticks town I was amazed at the amount of carpet I found in a Unions Office that I surveyed the other day in our nearest City.
But then did I not read that Simon said that the Commercial market was virtually a no go area for the small one band operato.r
Its not have a go at Simon week but I would like to know how you set about getting contracts for cleaning cruise linners etc
I would be more than happy to invest in the equipment and the polish lThe Eastern European Labour plus training etc to fullfil such asignments