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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Clive McDonald on July 12, 2008, 07:28:37 pm

Title: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 12, 2008, 07:28:37 pm
I've mentioned this a few times, and to be honest the idea hasn't really generated the interest I'd been looking for; to recap for those that might have missed my repeated hints:

Point one
Poles wear because dirt gets between the sections, this is introduced largely by the pole hose being on the floor picking up grit and grime as we work and then depositing this inside the pole when it's drawn in during extension.

Point Two
Working with pole hose spagetti on the floor is not only an ungainly tangle inducing mess. It gets trood on and tripped over and skipping over it like a girl looks very unprofesional. Add to this that it often catches itself on garden furniture while working or moving between windows and  maybe it's about time we did something about it?

So the great invention is an idea to keep the pole hose off the floor. Is it simple? Yes. Does it work? Yes.Should I show and tell? I'm not sure, that's why i've put the poll up.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: ftp on July 12, 2008, 07:32:35 pm
What if ............ you run the hose outside, velcro'd to the brush head only and avoid contact with the pole? Pole should last for about fifty years i rekon.





Oh go on then, put us out of our misery just promise me it's better than the last one please. ;)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on July 12, 2008, 07:51:05 pm
i thought you already did ???
isnt it a cleat mounted  on pole to wrap hose around
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on July 12, 2008, 07:52:03 pm
dont pure freedom already sell them on ebay ???
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: RO-Sheen on July 12, 2008, 07:55:17 pm
GO and take a photo and show us! (please!!)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: dmlservices on July 12, 2008, 07:59:05 pm
i use a numatic trigger on pole , hose connects via a schrader connecter to trigger pole hose, which is cut to right length to connect to other end of trigger when pole is fully extended, no pole hose dragging on floor when extended , when collapsed to clean downstairs , i simply grab hose at bottom of pole run upto lenth of my pole fold in half and wrap pre fitted velcro strap ,[ the type sold by gardiners for their supalites ] round folded pole hose , hose never gets dirty , so no wear problems , plus instant control over water , simply by pressing depressing trigger
 ;D
daz
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Wayne Thomas on July 12, 2008, 08:39:45 pm
My personal opinion. Worry less about wether dirt gets on your pole hose and concentrate on finding quicker methods of working with wfp. Then you wouldn't give a monkeys about your pole, just think of the extra dosh you earned through learning to work quicker and just buy a new pole when the old one starts wearing out. That's what I do. Always getting faster and finding all the shortcuts I use to miss out before. :)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 12, 2008, 08:42:03 pm
Is this a wind up?
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on July 12, 2008, 08:45:34 pm
Is this a wind up?
;D ;D ;D ;D probly
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: jeff1 on July 12, 2008, 08:50:59 pm
Look after your tools and your tools will look after you.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: sgibsoncleaning on July 12, 2008, 08:54:27 pm
using the principal of wireless you have invented hoseless water fed poles.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: NWH on July 12, 2008, 08:55:44 pm
Look after your tools and your tools will look after you.
LOL that comment reminded me of that line Trigger said in Only fools and horses,look after your broom and your broom will look after you lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on July 12, 2008, 09:05:15 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D trigger
dischunt windows
aka "trigger"
pmsl :)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Wayne Thomas on July 12, 2008, 09:05:24 pm
My mum always use to tell me: look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves.

I say: stuff the pennies, I look after the pounds and stuff the pennies. :)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: windowwashers on July 12, 2008, 09:07:34 pm
My mum always use to tell me: look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves.

I say: stuff the pennies, I look after the pounds and stuff the pennies. :)
your mum was right  ;) shame on you, go to your room  :P

Clive come on please show us.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Gerry Styles on July 12, 2008, 09:38:20 pm
Just clean it when you use it
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Wayne Thomas on July 12, 2008, 09:57:53 pm
Clive, some people may not appreciate your inventions, but I welcome your ideas.  :)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Jeff Brimble on July 12, 2008, 10:03:19 pm
I voted - show us.  A hose that levitates off the ground would be cool.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Nathanael Jones on July 12, 2008, 10:06:41 pm
You only need to keep the first few feet that actually go up into the pole from touching the ground. A harness/clip with the hose over your shoulder will do this.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: steve a on July 12, 2008, 10:28:55 pm
My personal opinion. Worry less about wether dirt gets on your pole hose and concentrate on finding quicker methods of working with wfp. Then you wouldn't give a monkeys about your pole, just think of the extra dosh you earned through learning to work quicker and just buy a new pole when the old one starts wearing out. That's what I do. Always getting faster and finding all the shortcuts I use to miss out before. :)


Fast can also work against you and i have had a customer or two over the years drop me for an old dodderer that takes ages. Some people are very old fashioned and think that if you take your time on a job you geta better result. Not necessarily true.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: niceandclean on July 12, 2008, 10:32:46 pm
Voted show us!  :)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Wayne Thomas on July 12, 2008, 10:37:47 pm
My personal opinion. Worry less about wether dirt gets on your pole hose and concentrate on finding quicker methods of working with wfp. Then you wouldn't give a monkeys about your pole, just think of the extra dosh you earned through learning to work quicker and just buy a new pole when the old one starts wearing out. That's what I do. Always getting faster and finding all the shortcuts I use to miss out before. :)


Fast can also work against you and i have had a customer or two over the years drop me for an old dodderer that takes ages. Some people are very old fashioned and think that if you take your time on a job you geta better result. Not necessarily true.

Totally agree with you. Some custies say to me, "god that was quick, have you finished already"? I get a bit fed up with making up smart answers for their remarks now. It's taken me a long time to get my speed up whilst still cleaning the windows thoroughly. I was very slow to start with, but now I'm fast, I couldn't go back to working slow just to please a customer as it would throw me out of my routine and method. :)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: michael papworth on July 12, 2008, 11:34:29 pm
Yes. Show and tell - and ignore the nay-sayers.

Take a leaf out of groundhog's book of life. Go for it.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: windowwashers on July 12, 2008, 11:35:33 pm
Yes. Show and tell - and ignore the nay-sayers.

Take a leaf out of groundhog's book of life. Go for it.
Agree, and while I am here where it groundhog  ???
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: matt on July 12, 2008, 11:49:40 pm
Yes. Show and tell - and ignore the nay-sayers.

Take a leaf out of groundhog's book of life. Go for it.
Agree, and while I am here where it groundhog  ???

he might have got sick and tired of all the snidey posts that seem to have a dig at the same few  ::) ::)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: windowwashers on July 12, 2008, 11:53:03 pm
Yes. Show and tell - and ignore the nay-sayers.

Take a leaf out of groundhog's book of life. Go for it.
Agree, and while I am here where it groundhog  ???

he might have got sick and tired of all the snidey posts that seem to have a dig at the same few  ::) ::)
?? explain more
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: mark dew on July 13, 2008, 03:30:12 am
C'mon discount. The forum is on a roll at the moment for good ideas. Keep the ball rolling.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Londoner on July 13, 2008, 07:40:05 am
I know, its a pole two foot in diameter with all the water already inside. It is isn't it?
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: elite mike on July 13, 2008, 10:08:33 am
you have got my vote,

come on then  ;D
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Moderator David@stives on July 13, 2008, 10:28:28 am
Its rings like you find at a petrol station to stop the hose wearing out on the ground
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 13, 2008, 02:04:37 pm
Okay, I know you are going to be dissapointed but this is a realistic and quite good solution to a real problem. It is fiddly and more time consuming to start but results in a better faster method of working.

The red harness is placed over your head and under one arm.The winding frame and tap is at the side of your upper body.

I'm sure there are other neater solutions and a proprietory product that did just this would no doubt find a market.Here it is, thanks for all the votes,enjoy.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: jeff1 on July 13, 2008, 02:16:06 pm
Its only guy's like your self Clive that move wfp forward? A lot of us come out with little idea's that we feel makes our own routine a little more easier.

We then decide to share our idea's with everyone else,  if they wish to share your idea's then you have achieved  your aim, those who don't want to share any idea's that the few of us put on here, don't criticize other peoples efforts in trying to make our life's that little more easier.

Well done Clive and keep them coming
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: windowwashers on July 13, 2008, 02:22:00 pm
Its only guy's like your self Clive that move wfp forward? A lot of us come out with little idea's that we feel makes our own routine a little more easier.

We then decide to share our idea's with everyone else,  if they wish to share your idea's then you have archived your aim, those who don't want to share any idea's that the few of us put on here, don't criticize other peoples efforts in trying to make our life's that little more easier.

Well done Clive and keep them coming
Good post and well said
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: ftp on July 13, 2008, 02:39:23 pm
Marvelous.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: LWC on July 13, 2008, 02:44:10 pm
can you take a picture of it on? wearing only that...joke
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 13, 2008, 03:02:03 pm
This is going better than I thought! The forum does seem to have a new found maturity. In view of this I would like to share with you another tip.At one time I was foreever inadvertantly pulling my pole hose out of the brush and completely out the pole by mistake- and then taking forever to thread it back through. This doesn't happen now because I put a nut on the pole hose which makes it impossible to pull past the collar.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: jefftemperley on July 13, 2008, 03:30:33 pm
HI all
ive had similar thoughts but for a small lightweight retractable hose reel that just holds enough for the pole hose when fully retracted then as you extend pole it gives what you need.
same as a retractable reel but attached to the end of the pole  .

the only thing ive seen that would be good is the single line retractable washing lines but it would just need to be half the size.

would be useful when using back packs in awkward places as you would never have trailing hoses
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: LWC on July 13, 2008, 03:36:31 pm
if you ever get stuck threading back through thread through from top, much easier, as i found out lol
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 13, 2008, 03:39:01 pm
Yes, there is a version with a vacuum cleaner recoil, this doesn't fit to the pole because it adds weight. This was meant for van mounts, the important bits being that the reel hose is secured to your body, and so does the pole hose but in such a way as not to clutter.
HI all
ive had similar thoughts but for a small lightweight retractable hose reel that just holds enough for the pole hose when fully retracted then as you extend pole it gives what you need.
same as a retractable reel but attached to the end of the pole .

the only thing ive seen that would be good is the single line retractable washing lines but it would just need to be half the size.

would be useful when using back packs in awkward places as you would never have trailing hoses
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: davids3511 on July 13, 2008, 03:41:36 pm
I tie a light knot in the pole hose just after it comes out of the pole. Stops it going bck through and doesn't restrict the flow.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 13, 2008, 03:42:53 pm
if you ever get stuck threading back through thread through from top, much easier, as i found out lol
If you have a male schrader/ez with an attiker clip you can't do this.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: LWC on July 13, 2008, 04:52:11 pm
dont really need a clip on the pole hose as it rarely or in my case never comes out
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 13, 2008, 05:33:33 pm
This is why you need the attiker clip because the dynamics of a hot system are different to that of a cold LWC. Hose is a lot more flexible and more diligence is required. For example the hose lock connection going into the reel used to leak because it was able to unscrew itself from the thread because of the turning moment of the reel.

I posted on here for solutions, and as I say the dynamics of a hot system are different, so when I tried the suggested Locktite that didn't work. What did work was electrical insulating tape round the outside of the connection, never a leak since. ;)

Keep 'em peeled ;D
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Jeff Brimble on July 13, 2008, 05:45:01 pm
 :) Nice one, first shoulder hanger I have seen.
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: LWC on July 13, 2008, 06:35:57 pm
ah right, didnt know you had a hot system, and i can see how that would make a diff  ;)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: ftp on July 13, 2008, 07:49:54 pm
Hey, why not wrap the pole hose around your body in winter and have a thermal vest?
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Oakley Windows on July 13, 2008, 07:52:49 pm
Hey, why not wrap the pole hose around your body in winter and have a thermal vest?

Working'll help keep you warm in the winter


 ;)
Title: Re: My Latest Greatest Invention
Post by: Clive McDonald on July 13, 2008, 08:56:19 pm
50 votes, 500 views, and not one off key or sour post, well done this forum.


But I ain't going to push my luck.... This thread is locked!