Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: m.b.s. on July 11, 2008, 07:46:52 pm
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evening all
my question is i do a little chineese take away i did today and had noticed like little grease spots on the insides it took me ages to rubb off as they were stuborn just wondering if there is any thing you can add to the water to loosen these more easely when applying the water with the aplicator and yes i do use gg3 i think it is or gg4 ???
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hot water and plenty of fairy
have to agree
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best greese ditergent in the world
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GG3 and 4 are every bit as good as fairy as they are all detergents, however gg3 and 4 make less mess, leave a better result and the windows stay cleaner for longer too!! Believe it or not its cheaper in the log run too!
The secret is the hot water as this helps to lift the grease and helps the detergent to do its work a little faster. A microfibre sleeve will also help due to its microscopic construction.
FAIRY is for dishes not for glass, but there are professional window cleaners and there are people who think window cleaning for a living makes them professionals LOL ;D
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GG3 and 4 are every bit as good as fairy as they are all detergents, however gg3 and 4 make less mess, leave a better result and the windows stay cleaner for longer too!! Believe it or not its cheaper in the log run too!
The secret is the hot water as this helps to lift the grease and helps the detergent to do its work a little faster. A microfibre sleeve will also help due to its microscopic construction.
FAIRY is for dishes not for glass, but there are professional window cleaners and there are people who think window cleaning for a living makes them professionals LOL ;D
I know people sayits a waste, blah blah, but i do put a drop of gg3 in the bucket and fairy on the applicator and the reflection is dazzling!!!
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FAIRY is for dishes not for glass, but there are professional window cleaners and there are people who think window cleaning for a living makes them professionals LOL ;D
Kev: what do you use to wash your glasses (i.e.wine glasses) at home if you don't use Fairy......surely you don't use GG3 or do you use a dishwasher and use Diamond for that clear professional shine ;D
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mr muscle glass cleaner works brill
jerrt
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mr muscle glass cleaner works brill
jerrt
i thought i had some in the van but when i eventuallly found it guess what it was empty :(
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m.b.s.
when i go in to tescos i buy the whole lot
would not be whith out it
jerry
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m.b.s.
when i go in to tescos i buy the whole lot
would not be whith out it
jerry
how do you mean the full lot
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the whole shelf
jerry
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the whole shelf
jerry
do you realy need a shelf for window cleaning ;D ;D ;D
only joking get what you mean now off to asda tomoz so have now put a memo pad sticker in car to get it you watch i willget in car tommorrow take it off windowscree and forget it you can bet your life i will lol ;)
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He was talking about Fosters ;D
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He was talking about Fosters ;D
;D ;D oh i wont forget that (fosters) but mine is becks if your buying ;D ;D
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FAIRY is for dishes not for glass, but there are professional window cleaners and there are people who think window cleaning for a living makes them professionals LOL
it maybe for dishes but iv been useing it for the passed 12 years ,,cant beat it mr Red
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Ok get two buckets of water add Fairy liquid 2 one and gg3/4 to the other and clean two separate windows traditionally.
Next place your hands (one into each bucket) take them out - shake them off and then let them dry naturally. You will find that the hand you place in the bucket containing fairy dries sticky. This is because fairy leaves a sticky residue, GG3/4 does not!!!
Ok next bit - leave the windows to the elements. After a week have a good close look, the window with the fairy on will be dirtier I guarantee it!!!! leave it a month and the difference is really noticeable.
Why because fairy leaves a sticky residue that dirt/dust sticks to. Its a fact!!!!
When I learnt to clean windows I learnt with fairy liquid. Why because as my old boss said the windows get dirty quickly and the customer wants you back. And its true just try the above experiment.
I would rather sell a service that keeps your windows cleaner for longer, use a professional product that works out cheaper in the long run, is easier to remove from the glass and sills as there are no suds.
You can make more money from less work if your product has the edge over the competition , but hey when wfp came along most people thought I was mad then too mostly other window cleaners though!!!!
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FAIRY is for dishes not for glass, but there are professional window cleaners and there are people who think window cleaning for a living makes them professionals LOL
it maybe for dishes but iv been useing it for the passed 12 years ,,cant beat it mr Red
it is now 2008, ::) I used if for many years myself and what Kev posted it 100% true, I am not trying to covert just saying it works better for us, less work better finish/lasting 12 years things change fella ;)
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FAIRY is for dishes not for glass, but there are professional window cleaners and there are people who think window cleaning for a living makes them professionals LOL
it maybe for dishes but iv been useing it for the passed 12 years ,,cant beat it mr Red
it is now 2008, ::) I used if for many years myself and what Kev posted it 100% true, I am not trying to covert just saying it works better for us, less work better finish/lasting 12 years things change fella ;)
Well said ;D
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I recently did an inside clean for a gentleman with UPVC frames. He's also a heavy smoker and you can guess the state of the frames which he also wanted cleaning. I used Ettorre Squeegee Off and it was fantastic at getting off the nicotine stains. Brought the frames up lovely real quick. However, I had a limited supply of Squeegee Off on me and ran out just before I finnished. I used Fairy to finish the last frame. It was absolutely awful. Sticky horrible mess it made. Left my hands in a right mess too.
Ettorre Squeegee Off works best for me. Cuts right through the grease.
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I recently did an inside clean for a gentleman with UPVC frames. He's also a heavy smoker and you can guess the state of the frames which he also wanted cleaning. I used Ettorre Squeegee Off and it was fantastic at getting off the nicotine stains. Brought the frames up lovely real quick. However, I had a limited supply of Squeegee Off on me and ran out just before I finnished. I used Fairy to finish the last frame. It was absolutely awful. Sticky horrible mess it made. Left my hands in a right mess too.
Ettorre Squeegee Off works best for me. Cuts right through the grease.
try sugar soap this works Fantasic for insides get it from b&q get there own no need to get branded it works trust me.
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Thanks. I'll remember that as it looks like being a regular twice yearly job.
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I recently did an inside clean for a gentleman with UPVC frames. He's also a heavy smoker and you can guess the state of the frames which he also wanted cleaning. I used Ettorre Squeegee Off and it was fantastic at getting off the nicotine stains. Brought the frames up lovely real quick. However, I had a limited supply of Squeegee Off on me and ran out just before I finnished. I used Fairy to finish the last frame. It was absolutely awful. Sticky horrible mess it made. Left my hands in a right mess too.
Ettorre Squeegee Off works best for me. Cuts right through the grease.
Ettore squeegee off is a professional window cleaning product designed for purpose - as you found for yourself fairy is not!
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Thanks. I'll remember that as it looks like being a regular twice yearly job.
you will be shocked by it, I was I showed my wife on one window in our new house and she does not clean windows at all, it messes her hair up and scratched her nails ::) well I cam back from work and she had massive grin "look at these windows" she did 2 windows that were brown/yellow fAg stained and they was back to gliming white, now if she says its great and does the job (first time ever) it works lol
try it let me know your results, sugar soap white scouring pad jobs a good'um ;)
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Just looked in garage. the SYR Slide professional window cleaning detergent I bought about 12 years ago is still there. Just doesn't slide at all, not enough friction reducer in it.
I bought some Unger professional detergent about 6 month ago. That doesn't slide either. Ended up throwing it away. Both just catch and leave smears whilst Fairy liquid, in its favour, does slide over the window without leaving smears.
I will buy some GG now though to see if that is any good.
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my mate swears by unger .i think its rubbish
gg for me
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it is now 2008, I used if for many years myself and what Kev posted it 100% true, I am not trying to covert just saying it works better for us, less work better finish/lasting 12 years things change fella
What kev said maybe right but il stick to my Fairy,as i said iv used it for 12 years and find it ok ,,
And window washers things might change in 12 years but why fix it if its not broken ;)
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it is now 2008, I used if for many years myself and what Kev posted it 100% true, I am not trying to covert just saying it works better for us, less work better finish/lasting 12 years things change fella
What kev said maybe right but il stick to my Fairy,as i said iv used it for 12 years and find it ok ,,
And window washers things might change in 12 years but why fix it if its not broken ;)
progression ::) thats like saying why change prices in 12 years.
I am not trying to convert you to using something else we all do things different and I have given my reasons why I dont use fairy washing up liquid anymore.
Ian
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Just looked in garage. the SYR Slide professional window cleaning detergent I bought about 12 years ago is still there. Just doesn't slide at all, not enough friction reducer in it.
I bought some Unger professional detergent about 6 month ago. That doesn't slide either. Ended up throwing it away. Both just catch and leave smears whilst Fairy liquid, in its favour, does slide over the window without leaving smears.
I will buy some GG now though to see if that is any good.
The reason it doesn't slide is that you are used to applying a lot of pressure to remove the fairy from the glass.
If you got used to applying the correct pressure, you would notice less fatigue, do a better job with less effort and not have much detailing to do if any.
If you want to change over you need to re-train your brain. Just add a little more of the professional solution of your choice and start to reduce it over a week or two to get the hang of it.
If you tried fairy again after getting used to gg3 you would never go back ;)
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At least with Fairy, if the customers came the old game.. "not this time", you'd just add a lot more Fairy the next time and before you knew it, the moaning customer was back to a regular clean :)
Can't do that with wfp, shame ;)
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At least with Fairy, if the customers came the old game.. "not this time", you'd just add a lot more Fairy the next time and before you knew it, the moaning customer was back to a regular clean :)
Can't do that with wfp, shame ;)
You know Wayne your a cutting edge bloke with some cracking ideas and you love the Fairy!!!! Shock and horror :o
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I am 100% wfp now mainly domestics, except for insides,which are rare except inside of two office buildings.
I did commercial only for 10 years, inside and out, and never normally detailed with Fairy and never had a problem with it. I used to stick ammonia in when doing dirty jobs and that does clean.
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Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water
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its GG3 to mix with soft (pure) water and gg4 to mix with hard water.
I live in a soft water area so I have gg3 as I can mix it with tap or pure ;)
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Thanks Kevin
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;D
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Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water
I am in hard water area and use gg4, I also use it with pure
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Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water
I am in hard water area and use gg4, I also use it with pure
why use it with pure i use it with tap can i ask why you will know the answer and you will be honist to me m8
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Anyway Kev R you are spot on with the guttervac so I am going to take your advice. Is it GG3 or 4 for hard water area, or which one to mix with pure water
I am in hard water area and use gg4, I also use it with pure
why use it with pure i use it with tap can i ask why you will know the answer and you will be honist to me m8
I just find that pure water and gg3 works better when cold then cold tap water a gg3 on internal jobs. Hot water would be better than cold so I use hot tap water and gg3 when I have access to it. I am just about to fit a hot water system which will be even better. I live in a soft water area. The TDS here is 70ppm
I dont know the science but I have one particular job that I have been able to experiment on. Hot tap water is the best mixed with gg3, then cold with pure and gg3, then cold tap and gg3. I have not tried hot and pure with gg3 yet.
Hot water does save you time because it makes it easier to remove grease.
I hope this is some help, I wonder if others find the same?
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cheers will try with pure ;)