Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: alanwilson on July 08, 2008, 12:46:59 am
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Is the 12inch brush on your site a Tucker brush?
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They told me they had a new brush coming out only for me to find that it was the vikan square 1,i have looked through my favorites Alan and can`t find the link you need,i think Alex`s new 1 comes out in a couple of weeks or so or you could always buy a 12" Tucker i know you can afford 1.Once converted it`s a good brush although 50 notes is ridiculous for a stock with bristles.
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£50 is even more expensive since you need to modify it yourself to fit a gooseneck.
I will wait on the new brush from Gardiners, hopefully it will be good. I've got the Ionics multipole brush, bit stiff, but great for cleaning frames etc, don't mind pressing down a bit harder.
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As far as I am aware Tucker dont make brushes.
The brushes we supply from the USA are as far as I can tell identical to the Tucker brush and I am fairly sure come from the same manufacturer.
They have the same Dupont filiment.
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As far as I am aware Tucker dont make brushes.
The brushes we supply from the USA are as far as I can tell identical to the Tucker brush and I am fairly sure come from the same manufacturer.
They have the same Dupont filiment.
Why do you charge over £50 for a sill brush and nearly £50 for a swivel brush,that`s way over priced.
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I paid £69 for one of peter's auto brushes. I can see why he changed the design, and I don't believe it was because of accidental switch offs. I think it's a scratcher, two ends of a metal plate either side.
I haven't used it yet, but even with my vikans i've scratced a few sills, this looks like it would take gouges out.
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I paid £69 for one of peter's auto brushes. I can see why he changed the design, and I don't believe it was because of accidental switch offs. I think it's a scratcher, two ends of a metal plate either side.
I haven't used it yet, but even with my vikans i've scratced a few sills, this looks like it would take gouges out.
This is why the Tucker type brushes are best as they are all bristle and hardly any stock,Alex`s new brush is very similar to it only lighter with better mono bristles.They scratch the sills because of the thick bulky stocks on them,well your not going to scratch sills with soft bristles are you.
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Not being funny, but can someone explain to me the point of an auto-brush? Why not turn the water off at the pole hose valve?
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As you know I've been going about a year now. A customer said "you're scratching my sills" I didn't really beleive him but i had . I checked all my other customers and ,yep, all of them. Luckily the scratches come out so I have been busy hiding the evidence before anyone else notices.
I've tried putting tape on the end stock of the vikan and this seems to help.
I bought one of those, is it bentley? off alex, very light but useless. I use it for gutter work.Those ball things he puts on are useless too.
ftp. I can't explain no. I thought i'd get one and try it, but it looks to me like a scratcher. If anyone else has one and they don't scratch please correct me.
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If your going to do sills clean all the top windows on 1 side of the house and go back along and do the sills afterwards,when doing the sills after windows angle the brush more in a downwards position,your only scratching the sills because of the angle of the brush head.
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Not being funny, but can someone explain to me the point of an auto-brush? Why not turn the water off at the pole hose valve?
Totally agree,all you need is one on/off tap on the end of your hose then any pole with any brush can be connected to your hose,so no need for seperate "autobrushes" ;)
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Or work quicker,the quicker you work the less you waste of the good stuff.
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well I got speaking to a wc'er near me (who has asked not to be named) - he has both the Tucker and Omnipole brush. I had a go with both and can say for sure that the Omnipole is useless.
Nowhere near as soft and useable as the tucker, a lot heavier and @ £36+VAT, sorry Glyn, I'm not buying it.
The tucker on the other hand was good, it was light, the bristles splayed nicely and it seemed to glide over the glass. Is it worth £50? I think it may be. We use salmon brushes, they're 11" long and light as a feather, the only problem is they have a tendency to curl up (the bristles) and can be a little too soft. Ordered a couple of Ionics brushes today so I will report back my findings on them, the 2 Ionics brushes cost less than 1 Tucker!
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I'm hoping the ups are okay.
I've been scratching the sills downstairs while cleaning the glass side to side and using the brush parralel to the ground. The end stock has been catching the sill.
Why does Glyn get it in the neck all the time. He probably comes on here to relax. I use hot water so prefer a firmer brush, so the brushes might not be useless for everyone.
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Alan
Why did you ask the question - As a wind up?
I cannot possibly say what brush your friend has as we sell dozens every week and carry probably 15 to 20 different brushes.
As an example we carry four different Tucker type brushes from the USA.
How can the brush be a lot heavier when its identical - same Dupont bristle, same backing and same fixing staples ?
Why do you charge over £50 for a sill brush and nearly £50 for a swivel brush,that`s way over priced
We dont
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Look at the american brush's made from Hog Hair
www.simpole.com/
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Glyn, I posted a while back asking if your brushes were the same as tucker because the tucker is the best brush I've used.
If yours are the same I was wondering if you would consider selling them already adapted to fit the standard poles most of us use. Save having to buy a tucker, sourcing the bits then modifying it.
IMO the tucker is a great brush, but reluctant to through hastle of converting one. I'm sure ther's a few of us who would buy them from you already converted.
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Hi DD
Its not a problem for us to convert the brushes- what would you describe as a standard pole fitting?
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The plastic gooseneck on the average fibre glass pole. So the brush would need to have the same sort of thread as a vikan. :)
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I'd like to second what dd says, to fit a plastic gooseneck. I like a firm brush because they soften when warm and fan jets.
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Tucker and Unger stock brushes are almost identical in appearance but completely different to use. I've used both and wouldn't swap one Tucker brush for 10 Unger ones as they are a complete waste of money :)
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glyn
I asked the question before I had seen the omnipole brush - wasn't a wind up at all.
Re-reading the post I have come across a little beligerent - not intended that way, sorry. The brush he was using was a dt 12inch, same as the one I was asking about. It was at least one and a half times as heavy as the tucker, the bristles are rock hard and I nearly broke the angle adapter trying to get the bristles to splay out. The tucker on the other hand splayed very nicely, was light and seemed a better brush.
as regards having the same backing plate - not in this case, the omnipole brush has a slightly translucent plastic whereas the tucker was solid white, the tucker has a thinner backing plate too.
the tucker has 2 outer rows of longer bristles whereas the omnipole brush has 3 outer rows.
the tucker edges were smooth and straight - not so with the Omnipole.
I'm not doubting you that you carry Tucker brushes but certainly the ones he showed me where completely different brushes.
If you can please post some good, up close pics of the tucker brushes you sell and maybe someone on here will post pics of their tucker brushes.
alan
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The problem with that is that large firms stop supply chanels if they see their product, exactly the same but much cheaper available somewhere else. This could cause a big big row in the states, and ultimatly make it difficult for the uk end.
If you want to look at brushes go on his site. Don't tempt or try to lure him into making dangerous claims.
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i ordered a tucker catalogue and price list last week, just phoned them this morning quoting the part number for a 12" double trim brush, part number 101, its £13.86 + vat, so i orderded 2, the part numbers are on the price list not in th catalogue.
i think it was NWH has been saying this for a while now.
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i ordered a tucker catalogue and price list last week, just phoned them this morning quoting the part number for a 12" double trim brush, part number 101, its £13.86 + vat, so i orderded 2, the part numbers are on the price list not in th catalogue.
i think it was NWH has been saying this for a while now.
I think you will find part 101 - brush head - actually refers to the part that attaches the brush to the gooseneck NOT the brush itself.
If you look in their brochure uner the heading "Brushes" you will find the 12inch double trim brush priced something over £40+VAT.
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just phoned them again to confirm, and the guy said its the brush itself not the holder,
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i think you are right, the fella at tucker doesnt know what hes talking about, there going to phone back and sort it out
i ordered a tucker catalogue and price list last week, just phoned them this morning quoting the part number for a 12" double trim brush, part number 101, its £13.86 + vat, so i orderded 2, the part numbers are on the price list not in th catalogue.
i think it was NWH has been saying this for a while now.
I think you will find part 101 - brush head - actually refers to the part that attaches the brush to the gooseneck NOT the brush itself.
If you look in their brochure uner the heading "Brushes" you will find the 12inch double trim brush priced something over £40+VAT.
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i think you are right, the fella at tucker doesnt know what hes talking about, there going to phone back and sort it outi ordered a tucker catalogue and price list last week, just phoned them this morning quoting the part number for a 12" double trim brush, part number 101, its £13.86 + vat, so i orderded 2, the part numbers are on the price list not in th catalogue.
i think it was NWH has been saying this for a while now.
I think you will find part 101 - brush head - actually refers to the part that attaches the brush to the gooseneck NOT the brush itself.
If you look in their brochure uner the heading "Brushes" you will find the 12inch double trim brush priced something over £40+VAT.
Hi Steve, did you get it sorted?
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It makes me laugh to read that window cleaners are willing to spend £100's on a pole but are so tight when it comes to buying a decent brush head. At the end of the day, the brush head is just as important, if not more important than what type of pole you buy. The brush head is our main tool which reflects the quality of our work along with a good method/technique of cleaning the glass. :)
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It makes me laugh to read that window cleaners are willing to spend £100's on a pole but are so tight when it comes to buying a decent brush head. At the end of the day, the brush head is just as important, if not more important than what type of pole you buy. The brush head is our main tool which reflects the quality of our work along with a good method/technique of cleaning the glass. :)
Well if you think about it Wayne, SLX is like what £450?
£50 on that you would atleast think the brush is made of Carbonfibre.
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I think Wayne makes a good point. It is worth investing in a quality brush to improve cleaning results. £50 is a lot to spend on one brush but it should pay for itself and will last a long time.
My main gripe is that we cannot buy one of these brushes to fit a standard pole (it has to be converted).
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got it sorted, the guy has only been there 3wks and got it wrong, so i cancelled what i had origially ordered and just ordered one 12" d/t brush.
i will convert it myself, as their jets were 4mm and i think the the brush head wouldnt fit the plastic gooseneck, that most use.
i agree with what you say about spending money on a good brush,
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Here's a few pics of my converted poles with Tucker brushes.
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A few more pics:
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Last ones
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What bits did you use to convert the brush?
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The Tucker brush will fit straight on to an Ionics commercial gooseneck, (just need to replace Ionics brush head with Tucker's).
On a plastic universal angle gooseneck I fit a converted swivel tile brush from hillhead brush company. After pulling the bristles out with pinchers, file the rear side of the tile brush (with a rasp) where the jets will go and fit jets similar to Ionics from varitech (Newton Abbot) because they are longer jets, securing the brush, swivel connection and jets all together with 2 nuts behind the stock of the Tucker brush as in the photos above :)
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Thanks Wayne.
I do think we ought to be able to buy this type of brush already converted. I like the tucker brush but find the tucker pole impractical on smallish jobs and don't like the tucker jets as they are too big.
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Must be a bit of weight in the pole using reinforced hose all the way to the jets Wayne? Why didn't you use the clear pvc 6mm ?
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Must be a bit of weight in the pole using reinforced hose all the way to the jets Wayne? Why didn't you use the clear pvc 6mm ?
It's lighter pole hose (it's not microbore hose) 5mm supalite pole hose from Varitech, more supple and doesn't kink, distinctly visible, I like it :)
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Cheers, just had a look in their booklet :)
Wish they had a website though, I'm sure they would sell loads more gear.
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great idea wayne, especially with the built in swivel, i like it so much ive just ordered a couple of tile grout brushes and some ally jets from varitech.
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The swivels are really good on them tile grout brushes. Makes it easier, less effort cleaning the glass as the swivel does some of the work on your behalf , especially on large panes of glass. It's also easier to clean windows over conservatory roof's from the side, instead of over the conservatory roof :)
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i think you are right, the fella at tucker doesnt know what hes talking about, there going to phone back and sort it outi ordered a tucker catalogue and price list last week, just phoned them this morning quoting the part number for a 12" double trim brush, part number 101, its £13.86 + vat, so i orderded 2, the part numbers are on the price list not in th catalogue.
i think it was NWH has been saying this for a while now.
I think you will find part 101 - brush head - actually refers to the part that attaches the brush to the gooseneck NOT the brush itself.
If you look in their brochure uner the heading "Brushes" you will find the 12inch double trim brush priced something over £40+VAT.
Hi Steve, did you get it sorted?
No it`s not it`s the brush itself,i saw the brush advertised as a part when i came across it and it was about £12.
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You are the only one who has seen a tucker around £12 NWH and no one on here seems to have been able to buy one new for anything less than over £40+Vat.
I have the current brochure from tucker. Please tell us exactly where to get one for around £12.
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Tuckers used to charge £57.00 for the brush cannot see them dropping it to £12.00 ;D
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Is Glyn from Omnipole,if so if you don`t beleive you charge ridiculous prices for your brushes have a look on your own website.
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NWH
I dont know but
Perhaps people think you charge ridiculous prices for cleaning a few windows 8)
But hey that dont have to use you- Same thing
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I will say when you show a product on your site for a certain price - it is up to the buyer to decide whether they want it or not, its when its the only place you can buy a certain product from that is charging really high prices, thats when its a rip off.
£42+VAT for a brush head??
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If this brush is as good as people say then I honestly can't see why 50 quid is a problem at all ???
I've never tried one but if the tucker was THE brush for me & served my requirements better than any other brush out there I wouldn't give the 50 quid tag a second thought!
The sl-x is 400 quid (approx) & i would have no problem replacing it every year if need be. These tools pay for themselves very quickly indeed (if you're good at your job that is) ;)
Tony
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I was using a long hybrid pole for 2 hours this morning after using carbon poles all day long every working day of the week. Really noticed the difference today, (pole was so whippy in comparison). Wouldn't like to go back to glass fibre poles EVER unless it's a mini pole for confined spaces.
Need a day using inferior poles to appreciate how easy it is with superior carbon poles :) SL-X brilliant pole. :) ;)