Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on July 04, 2008, 07:54:07 am
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can i see some of your tidy vans inside, i want to get some ideas on mine, my last van looked ok but i want this to look really pro
do you have them plylined or not? mine currently is but was thinking of ripping that out?
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LWC, if your going to take out the ply lining, DO NOT take out the ply on the panels, this protects it from denting inside, Luke
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Here is mine
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Did you used to deliver letters in that? ;D
(with a cat called Jess)
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Check out www.waterfed-pole-systems.co.uk
Click on pictures. I have one of their 600 litre systems in a dispatch which i fill from a static system.
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Did you used to deliver letters in that? ;D
(with a cat called Jess)
lol
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heres mine
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jimmy that looks good, and the same van as mine :)
any more pics? and possibly bigger?
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Sorry thats the only one of inside I have. by the way its not that tidy all the time ;D
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is that black proteckta coat on the floor?
looks well tidy
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Yes, I wangled it out of them when I bought the van, it seems to do the trick and is easy to clean.
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Here you go. This is one from Andrew Macann.
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Another by Mr McCann
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My Citroen Dispatch LWB
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That looks well ace :o ;D
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That looks well ace :o ;D
Ill second that.. that looks well nice.
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Is the hanging hose reel a problem reeling in as its so high?
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Is that DI only system ?
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Yeah looks nice that, is that a new Scudo? What are you using for your poles? Also i thought the systems should be fitted somewhere in the middle of the van, or is it just as long as all the weight is not all over the rear wheels?
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Is the hanging hose reel a problem reeling in as its so high?
And just when you thought it was safe to go into the water ::)
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Hanging the reel is no problem, and it can be used from either side which makes domestics real easy from kerb side. Its easier to reel in as you can stand up, not bend down over the reel like on the rear. I had a frame made which is bolted to the ceiling. In fact I bought the van and had the system fitted by Varitech. I think they did a good job, its a joy to work from.
The system is set well back to give me more space for my carpet cleaning gear etc up front. The fitted system is a 500ltr DI only. Its well with in axel limits and as the van has intelligent rear suspension the ride is always level as the tank empties.
The van is ply lined and I drilled 2 large holes on each side and fitted two extending shower poles, which I covered with pipe lagging and tape. Is nice as you can rest many poles on it.
The Van is a Citroen Dispatch LWB 2.0 diesel.
Hope I covered everything ;D
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Hanging the reel is no problem, and it can be used from either side which makes domestics real easy from kerb side. Its easier to reel in as you can stand up, not bend down over the reel like on the rear. I had a frame made which is bolted to the ceiling. In fact I bought the van and had the system fitted by Varitech. I think they did a good job, its a joy to work from.
The system is set well back to give me more space for my carpet cleaning gear etc up front. The fitted system is a 500ltr DI only. Its well with in axel limits and as the van has intelligent rear suspension the ride is always level as the tank empties.
The van is ply lined and I drilled 2 large holes on each side and fitted two extending shower poles, which I covered with pipe lagging and tape. Is nice as you can rest many poles on it.
The Van is a Citroen Dispatch LWB 2.0 diesel.
Hope I covered everything ;D
Thanks for that Kevin, looks really neat.
Im looking at having a rack inside of some sort for holding a ladder and my poles. Im having a system fitted, and would like to have it further back as to gain some more space behind the bulkhead to fit a frame for carrying sealed units.
So your system starts just before the rear wheels?
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Sorry meant before the end of the rear wheels!
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heres a couple
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Hanging the reel is no problem, and it can be used from either side which makes domestics real easy from kerb side. Its easier to reel in as you can stand up, not bend down over the reel like on the rear. I had a frame made which is bolted to the ceiling. In fact I bought the van and had the system fitted by Varitech. I think they did a good job, its a joy to work from.
The system is set well back to give me more space for my carpet cleaning gear etc up front. The fitted system is a 500ltr DI only. Its well with in axel limits and as the van has intelligent rear suspension the ride is always level as the tank empties.
The van is ply lined and I drilled 2 large holes on each side and fitted two extending shower poles, which I covered with pipe lagging and tape. Is nice as you can rest many poles on it.
The Van is a Citroen Dispatch LWB 2.0 diesel.
Hope I covered everything ;D
Thanks for that Kevin, looks really neat.
Im looking at having a rack inside of some sort for holding a ladder and my poles. Im having a system fitted, and would like to have it further back as to gain some more space behind the bulkhead to fit a frame for carrying sealed units.
So your system starts just before the rear wheels?
It pretty much sits over the rear axel ;)
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Cool, thanks for your replies. :)
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here's is mine
I did strip it down after I had a crash
(http://)
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All being well, I am (at long last) picking up my new van and system TOMORROW!. I'll post an image if I can find someone with a digi camera, or I might use my phone.
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All being well, I am (at long last) picking up my new van and system TOMORROW!. I'll post an image if I can find someone with a digi camera, or I might use my phone.
What system and van are you getting ? . . . . . Im excited for you mate ;D
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All being well, I am (at long last) picking up my new van and system TOMORROW!. I'll post an image if I can find someone with a digi camera, or I might use my phone.
i recon Ionics hot ducato maybe :-\
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Almost right WW, ionics thermopure pro-6 in a silver renault traffic.
Can't bloody wait, though saying goodbye to my old van will be like saying goodbye to an old friend. Ah well, thats progress for ya!
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Almost right WW, ionics thermopure pro-6 in a silver renault traffic.
Can't bloody wait, though saying goodbye to my old van will be like saying goodbye to an old friend. Ah well, thats progress for ya!
im getting good ;D
what you doing with old van and system ?? ;)
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if progress is that great invest in a digital camera.
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what you doing with old van and system ??
I have a buyer for the van but the system is going on the scrap heap. Keeping the poles though, obviously!
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if progress is that great invest in a digital camera.
;D ;D ;D
indeed
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what you doing with old van and system ??
I have a buyer for the van but the system is going on the scrap heap. Keeping the poles though, obviously!
scrap heap :o does it not still work ?
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if progress is that great invest in a digital camera.
;D ;D ;D
indeed
great minds think alike. ;D 8)
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Don't post on here tennent, start a new thread. It'll be a show stopper. Ionics- tenent- and a new van!!
I am very much looking forward to your report. Please be as smug and arrogant as you like and don't spare any detail.This forum is a about wc, and the van and set you are getting is just about at the top of the tree.
Can't afford a digital camera? Their jaws will be on the floor and their eyes will be green. No one will admitt that they care or are interested but the views will be through the roof.
On a serious note I can give you some advice on the 'hot', if you want it.
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No sorry i wont be Discount.
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Don't post on here tennent, start a new thread. It'll be a show stopper. Ionics- tenent- and a new van!!
I am very much looking forward to your report. Please be as smug and arrogant as you like and don't spare any detail.This forum is a about wc, and the van and set you are getting is just about at the top of the tree.
Can't afford a digital camera? Their jaws will be on the floor and their eyes will be green. No one will admitt that they care or are interested but the views will be through the roof.
My that's quite a "tan" you've got on your nose. ;D
Why should anyone be envious?
It's just another window cleaning system.
He won't be able to clean windows any better than before, or anyone else.
I hope he's happy with it, and it serves him well, but there's no reason for anyone to be jealous.
It probably cost a fortune, just to do the job I do for under £900. ???
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oh dear it looks like the claws are out already lol
I have a camera on me phone thats pretty good, i'll take some tomorrow when I pick the thing up if I can work out how to get them on the PC.
I aint being smug or arrogant, as the squeaker says, it is just a van and system, though it is more pro looking that what I currently have. Its not something I've bought on a whim, and I have thought about it carefully and just like any system there will be good points and bad points.
But one thing though, I reckon it will make a difference using hot water when the winter months roll around. No idea if it will clean better, I always manage to get a perfect result just using cold, but I think it will be more pleasant to use.
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Tennet , do you mind if ask your name , I think we are at a stage now when we can be a little more informal ? ;D
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Don't go soft on me now Tennent, knock the ball out of the ground on this one.
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Got my system, and needless to say I am now grinning like a cheshire cat.
Here you go, enjoy:
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one more:
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That is a seriously good-looking system! You must be chuffed :)
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QUALITY.....how much are they can you have any aged van or do they insist on a new one ?
Do you operate a two man team from this van if so is all work done from the system ie tops and bottoms cheers
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they are a lovely looking system...i will be changing to them at some point...well worth the money
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Very sweet system buddy. Are the ports outside the van?
Now wait for the negatives ::)
Bob
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Cheers guys!
Bod, Yes the ports are outside, so I can lock the van up entirely while working. CVdewsbury you can have any van new or secondhand as long as the payload weight is enough and it is structurally ok. To me having the new van is as exciting for me as the system itself. I decided to push the boat out and get metallic paint and air-con etc, I'm looking forward to using it! (not had a chance so far!)
I dont operate a two man team, it is just me on my own, but I suppose you could have a team of two from a van like this without much bother. 600 litres is plenty for two people IMO even on commercial work.
The negatives I have found so far... the salt-backwash procedure seems a bit fiddly, I never did that at all with my old RO, but I suppose if you follow the instructions it should be ok. I dont fully understand it yet. Other than that I'll have to wait till I actualy use it to see how it compares.
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Fab fab system, enjoy!!
regards
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Looks well neat, would be interested what your running costs would be after a year. Did they give you a rough idea.
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Looks very good, ;) have fun with it, which I am sure you will ;D
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Looks great, but how does it work?
You lock it up outside your house with a hose connected to a port and it stops automaticaly when full?
You connect it to a supply whilst working?
Do you still have independent water production at home and will you still use it?
I take it the heater draws diesel from the main tank?
They changed the tax rules didn't they, so you can claim all of it this year if you want to. That'll knock the bill down a bit.
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The negatives I have found so far... the salt-backwash procedure seems a bit fiddly, I never did that at all with my old RO, but I suppose if you follow the instructions it should be ok. I dont fully understand it yet.
Not to steal your thunder but its things like that what makes me think a D.I.Y system has an edge over this ::)
You spend all that money and if somthing goes wrong you might not know how to put it right...
with a D.I.Y system you know it inside out.........
AND YES I AM JELOUS ;D ;D
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It looks the dogs danglies and i love em but i have everything i need at the moment at a fraction of the price,the big question is how much is it costing you a month.Come on Tennant we all know what they look like but what are they stinging you for it.
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How many £££,ss? for the system installing plus van signing is it about 12
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How many £££,ss? for the system installing plus van signing is it about 12
new van, hot system costs more than 12 I would lay a big chunk of cash on that maybe double
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I reckon an outright purchase would be just over 25k and around £550-600 a month on a lease.
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Got my system, and needless to say I am now grinning like a cheshire cat.
Here you go, enjoy:
Thats better then porn lol ;D ;D
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The salt backwash is for the Water softener I believe. You can fill a DI container with water softener resin but after x amount of water has passed through it, the water softener needs to be backwashed because of the build up of brine. Automatic water softeners automatically regenerate the resin.
Smart system. Welcome to the world of hot WFP. You'll love filthy new cleans with it :)
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Got my system, and needless to say I am now grinning like a cheshire cat.
Here you go, enjoy:
Thats better then porn lol ;D ;D
You need to get out more :P
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Got my system, and needless to say I am now grinning like a cheshire cat.
Here you go, enjoy:
Thats better then porn lol ;D ;D
You need to get out more :P
;D ;D ;D ;D
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better than porn lol
NWH has the figures about right. Well, anyone can see how much I paid just by looking in the catalogue I guess, so I dont mind telling. It goes like this, the system i got is 600 litre pro-6 thermopure which costs about £9,300 depending on exactly how you have it configured plus a bit extra for fitting, can't remember off hand but about £550. The van was (if i remember) about £13,600 making the total package cost just under £24k.
On 5 year finance this works out to be somethin like £580 a month. Now something to consider is that you have to add VAT on to that monthly fig, but I am already in the process for registering for vat so that wont be a problem for me, but if your considerin something like this you need to take that into account.
Now compared to the money that can be earned from window cleaning, I do not think this is a big amount BUT i have a word of caution. I am in this for the long haul, and i am already established and building up more and more commercial work, so I have justified some luxuries like hot water and a new metallic van and air con etc. IF YOUR A NEWBIE DONT DO THIS! Start with something more basic like cold water and a 2 yr old vehicle until you are nicely established. When you have the work then you can justify the added nice things like hot water.
so there you go!
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I do not think this is a big amount BUT i have a word of caution. I am in this for the long haul, and i am already established and building up more and more commercial work, so I have justified some luxuries like hot water and a new metallic van and air con etc. IF YOUR A NEWBIE DONT DO THIS! Start with something more basic like cold water and a 2 yr old vehicle until you are nicely established. When you have the work then you can justify the added nice things like hot water.
so there you go!
Good advice Tennent.
Even though I personally am a bit "anti-ionics", I have to admit it looks great! I am (slightly!) jealous!
Is the heat adjustable on that system?
;D ;D
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Looks great, but how does it work?
You lock it up outside your house with a hose connected to a port and it stops automaticaly when full?
You connect it to a supply whilst working?
Do you still have independent water production at home and will you still use it?
I take it the heater draws diesel from the main tank?
They changed the tax rules didn't they, so you can claim all of it this year if you want to. That'll knock the bill down a bit.
Sorry discount missed your questions, yes you have it right, you park it up outside your house or in the garage or whatever connected to water supply and it fills up overnight and automatically switches the water off when its full. You dont have to connect it to a supply while working, but i suppose you could and it would fill up a little bit while your doing work. You could do this for commercial work if a tap was available and its gonna be in the same spot for a few hours.
You can have the option of either a seperate diesel tank for the system, or it can draw from the main fuel tank. I went for it taking diesel from the main tank because I didnt want to have to fanny around filling two seperate tanks.
I dunno about those tax rules, if thats true it will be very welcome!
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If you use a separate diesel tank for heating water you can use red diesel at half the price. Minimum sale of 200 litre drums or a bundi tank (double skinned) (approx £700) so it can be filled up by a fuel supply lorry straight to your tank at your premises. Worth considering since the cost of fuel is ever increasing. :) However the bundi tank has to be installed on a solid flat surface that meets a certain requirement which the fuel companies insist on because of waste contamination.
Total outlay for bundy tank would be recouped within 12 months by the saving made on the cheaper diesel. :)
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You got the best van too. ;)
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Great system and van. I'd have loved the hot system, but as I was new got the pro 6 (love it) and do a salt backwash, found it strange at first but once youve done it a couple of times - no problem. ENJOY!
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nice one tennet, well pleased for you mate, look after it
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Tennet,
That's exactly the same system we got off ebay a couple of month ago, same van and everything.
We paid £10,500 for it as a repossession. Took me a month to get it on the road as it wasn't taxed and I had to send off to DVLA for a new V5 document.
All up and running now and I must say from our short time with it, it is a phenomenal system.