Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Andrew McCann on July 01, 2008, 06:53:31 pm
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I think that it is pretty much public knowledge that I am no longer with Adepta Engineering (Purefreedom)
I resigned from my position for a number of reasons. The main one being that I no longer felt that I was in a position to offer my customers the level of after care and service I aspire to.
I had been seriously considering my position for some time and did not arrive at a decision easilly. I put my heart and soul into the business however it was not going in a direction which I felt that I could be a part of.
I would like to thank all of the members of this forum who have contacted me recently with words of concern and encouragement.
As to the future I decided to stay in the supply industry but with 100% control of the running of the company and therefore it's values. Those who know me will I hope agree that I am 100% dedicated to caring for my customers and this will be carried forward to my new company.
My new website is up and running. It is basic at the moment and will be added to with more products as I bring them online. Many thanks to those of you here who have dealt with me in the past.
Regards
Andrew
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hello mr, so whats the url for your new site?
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good luck andrew
jay
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Andrew hope it goes well.
Clicking on your website I take it you still retain the title Pure Freedom.
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hello mr, so whats the url for your new site?
The site won't let me add a signature to my postst at the moment. Just click the globe on my profile.
Re the title Pure Freedom it is not trademarked. My site is Pure Freedom Systems.
Regards
Andrew
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thanks for all your help,in setting me up,you are the top man, and i hope you,ll give us all details of where you will be opperating from..kevin everitt....southend
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well all the best to you Andrew :)
im sure you will have no probs on your own, you ve built up a good rep for yourself and purefreedom alike
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Hope you had a great Holiday Dude ;D ;D
And wishing you all the very best in your new adventure, but with your customer skills and knowledge, I doubt if you'll need much luck. ;)
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Good luck Andrew with your new venture....
Dave.
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You gave me some sound advice over the last few years Andrew and never pushed anything i didn't need to buy.
it isn't pure freedom that has the good reputation, its you mate so where ever you go i'm sure the customers will follow ;)
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yea i will defo follow you andrew always been helpful with sound advice cheers STEVE.
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Good luck Andrew the system I had from you last November still works fine. All the best. Paul
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Hi Andrew
It's been quite a while since we last chatted but I'm glad you're sticking to your core values. Anyone can sell stuff but it's the attitude that really counts. I hope that your independent venture does well for you which I'm sure it will because of your dedication to detail and good customer service.
Why not register the trademark Pure Freedom? It's not that expensive to do and Pure Freedom is the name we all associate with you.
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Your a top man Andrew
and I wish you every success in your new venture.
Thanks for your help today
regards
Russ
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Your a top man Andrew
and I wish you every success in your new venture.
Thanks for your help today
regards
Russ
Thanks Russ. Hope you got it sorted. Feel free to contact me anytime if it isn't.
Thanks for all the kind comments so far as well.
Alex.. yes it has been a while. I will call you very soon to catch up and see if we can do business now I am in control. You are so right about core values as well. Without them you shouldn't be in the business of supplying folks whose living depends on them in my opinion.
Andrew
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Hello Andrew ,
i have had a look at your website and it looks very interesting, i am planning to get another van soon and your website says that the installed systems are tested to Ministry Of Transport standards. is this the same or different to the ionics thatcham testing?
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also are you still all the way up in deepest darkest Grimsby?
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Hello Andrew ,
i have had a look at your website and it looks very interesting, i am planning to get another van soon and your website says that the installed systems are tested to Ministry Of Transport standards. is this the same or different to the ionics thatcham testing?
Hi and thanks. It does not say "tested" to MOT standards. It says FITTED to MOT standards. This means secured to the chassis of the vehicle. The fitting is carried out by a very long established local commercial vehicle company which deals with this sort of thing daily. They work on vehicles and trailers etc carrying 20/30 tonnes plus so are highly qualified to do the job correctly.
Nope I am not in Grimsby anymore (Thank god) I am 17 miles closer to anyone now :)
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Andrew it's Dave from Holland....
I have just got into Sidiothorpe (why does this board think s cun thorpe is Sidiothorpe ) visiting some friends....fancy a date?, I'm easy and here until Friday morning.... ;D
Dave.
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You mean Scunny Dave?
If so yes that would be great. Not so sure about the easy bit though ;D
LOL you must have edited your post as I was typing... call me on the number on the website mate.
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You mean Scunny Dave?
If so yes that would be great. Not so sure about the easy bit though ;D
LOL you must have edited your post as I was typing... call me on the number on the website mate.
Andrew I spoke to you previously , could you quote me for a system ? jonah35@btinternet.com Thanks ;D
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Email sent Jonah.
Andrew
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Ta very much ;D
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With you all the way m8 good luck ;)
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Andrew, contact me on Greenvbg@aol.com I need to have a talk to you.
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Hi Andrew
You sold me a backpack system and all the bits a nd bobs to go along with to get me started in the game and recently you sold me a 400ltr tank system which i mounted in an ifor williams box trailer. Always sound advice. Adepta have made a mistake letting you go. Just put your number in my phone. Regards and good luck.
P.S Rumous has it that the 382 reply to your original post receives a free goodie. Nice touch :-X
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So glad your staying in the industry Mr McCann as newbies like myself need people like you, your the reason i
travelled 4 1/2 hours from Eastbourne to get my system done, you drove me to a hotel then collected me once
system was installed, your advice and knowledge was second to none and i felt you only wanted whats best for
custy as you wouldnt sell something they didnt need, good luck and im sure youll succed as youll have a massive
customer base.
Chris
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All the best Andrew, Hope it all goes well. I am sure it will.
Thanks for all your help in the past.
Regards Jason
County Window Cleaning
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Hi Andrew
thankyou for all your help and advice over the past 2 years
but nothings really changed Andrew Mc cann is Pure Freedom, without you i believe that Adepta Engineering wouldnt have gone this far in this business, its been your help and advice thats inspired people to change over to wfp
good luck for the future 8)
Ive always been a big fan of the pure freedom trolley but after seeing the finished product of the xline trolley adepta engineering have got big competition
regards
Brett
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Good luck Andrew.
Please call me.
Ian
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you helped me also when buying my system andrew. Just so happens it isn't fitte dinto my van yet LOL
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Thanks Andrew ;)
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good luck andrew, youve helped me loads in past, and to be honest i hadnt used pure freedom for a while because i was greatly dissapointed in the service from the other staff, nothing to do with you, but they seriously ticked me off on a number of occasions. but now i know your on your own, smiles all round :)
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This time next year you will be a millionaire ; 8) ;D
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good luck andrew, youve helped me loads in past, and to be honest i hadnt used pure freedom for a while because i was greatly dissapointed in the service from the other staff, nothing to do with you, but they seriously ticked me off on a number of occasions. but now i know your on your own, smiles all round :)
Gotta agree with that Andrew. I was hugely disappointed with some of the aftersales when my varistream went belly up. Despite calling adepta and emailing them, they failed to reply and despite the overrated after sales pitch,i found it to be non existant on the one time i needed it. Never used them again to this day. Hopefully you will restore my faith in yourself, if not with adepta. I personally was left with the "you've got my cash. now armpits to me" taste in my mouth. I hope you do yourself and your visions proud as i personally never doubted you.
Rock on Andrew ;)
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I rung up towards the end of your time there, asked for you, you then put me onto someone else, all i wanted was a 18 foot pole but the person i spoke to didnt have a clue, i told him not to worry, put phone down and ordered from WCW.
Chris
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Hi Andrew,
I bought a trolley off you a few months ago and it is doing me proud. I love the thing.
Are you selling them or are they an adepta product only?
All the best in your new venture mate.
Dean.
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Nice to see a guy getting a pat on the back on the forum.
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Andrew I sent you a pm on the TA
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Andrew I sent you a pm on the TA
Hi Jeff.
For some reason the TA isn't working for me. :(
The Forum page loads but only with the banners and some stuff down the side.
It shows me as signed in but nothing is working.
You could either email or call me mate.
Andrew
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Andrew I sent you a pm on the TA
Hi Jeff.
For some reason the TA isn't working for me. :(
The Forum page loads but only with the banners and some stuff down the side.
It shows me as signed in but nothing is working.
You could either email or call me mate.
Andrew
Ok, I'll get Joe onto it and sort it out, it was only about your new banner ;D
Just emailed you ;)
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We'd all like a fresh start and sometimes we get one.Usually it's because we're pushed, not because we are brave enought to jump.
The good thing is you get to do it all again, only this time a lot faster because you know where you're going and without making some of the mistakes from the first time.
Earlier in the thread a trading name was muted. It seems this may be a grey area from what has been said. Your own name seems quite well known.
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good luck andrew, youve helped me loads in past, and to be honest i hadnt used pure freedom for a while because i was greatly dissapointed in the service from the other staff, nothing to do with you, but they seriously ticked me off on a number of occasions. but now i know your on your own, smiles all round :)
Gotta agree with that Andrew. I was hugely disappointed with some of the aftersales when my varistream went belly up. Despite calling adepta and emailing them, they failed to reply and despite the overrated after sales pitch,i found it to be non existant on the one time i needed it. Never used them again to this day. Hopefully you will restore my faith in yourself, if not with adepta. I personally was left with the "you've got my cash. now armpits to me" taste in my mouth. I hope you do yourself and your visions proud as i personally never doubted you.
Rock on Andrew ;)
think i rang about 10 times and passed on to different people, just wanted a pole pump, varistream and hose reel, the woman seemed to get irrate answering the phone when i rang
"who is it"
"its matthew saxon"
hears **sighs**
"right matthew ill pass you on"
then get passed on
"yes matthew"
"you were supposed to ring me back"
"what do you want"
then topped off with they sent wrong connection on hosereel and then got annoyed when i rang up, and didnt send it for weeks, so i had nice new shiney hose reel with wrong fittings sat in garage, andrew came back and i managed to get through to him, and the next morning there was the part in the post.
andrew is the man and im well pleased hes on his own, he made that company and the other monkeys ruined it for me.
i spent good money there and because of their attitude towards me i never went again. im sorry to go on but when you find a good supplier then get treated like that it annoys me!
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thanks for getting me started last October ,spoke to you regarding a van mount a couple of weeks ago.well got van now so will give you a ring at your new offices.and also good luck for the future........Dave Richardson
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Andrew I sent you a pm on the TA
Hi Jeff.
For some reason the TA isn't working for me. :(
The Forum page loads but only with the banners and some stuff down the side.
It shows me as signed in but nothing is working.
You could either email or call me mate.
Andrew
Ok, I'll get Joe onto it and sort it out, it was only about your new banner ;D
Just emailed you ;)
Thanks Jeff:)
Hmmm no email received here mate :(
Andrew
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Have you changed your email?? I have the clearview4u one
I'll resend it to the one in your profile. ;)
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Is it you dealing with crystal pure systems or purefreedom
h ttp://www.crystalpuresystems.com/Home.html
Chris
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thanks for getting me started last October ,spoke to you regarding a van mount a couple of weeks ago.well got van now so will give you a ring at your new offices.and also good luck for the future........Dave Richardson
Good to hear from you again Dave.
I look forward to your call :)
Andrew
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Is it you dealing with crystal pure systems or purefreedom
h ttp://www.crystalpuresystems.com/Home.html
Chris
Hiya Chris.
No I am not the supplier although I do know the owner of Crystal Pure and he is a great guy.
Andrew
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Well they are closer too me but im glad i travelled upto get system installed, its filling nicely as we speak.
Chris
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We'd all like a fresh start and sometimes we get one.Usually it's because we're pushed, not because we are brave enought to jump.
I think that some may misconstrue the meaning of your statement which I do agree with.
Just to make it perfectly clear I was not "pushed" at all. I resigned from Adepta of my own free will.
Regards
Andrew
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We'd all like a fresh start and sometimes we get one.Usually it's because we're pushed, not because we are brave enought to jump.
I think that some may misconstrue the meaning of your statement which I do agree with.
Just to make it perfectly clear I was not "pushed" at all. I resigned from Adepta of my own free will.
Regards
Andrew
Andrew , you dont have to explain mate ! Just keep on doing what you do in the "real world" and let most of the negative posts on this site go over your head ;D
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Andrew, a quick question:
What exactly are the "ministry of transport" standards that you claim your systems are fitted to? Where can I see these standards?
The reason I ask is because the "ministry of transport" does not exist, and hasnt for some time (replaced by Department for Transport). No offense but for you te suggest standards from the no-longer existant ministry of transport suggests to me that you dont know what your talking about, and that this is just a line BS.
And I highly doubt they have produced standards for fitting WFP systems.
So, to what standards are you referring and where can we see them?
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hi andrew good to hear from you craig.
www.crystalpuresystems.com (http://www.crystalpuresystems.com)
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hi andrew good to hear from you craig.
www.crystalpuresystems.com (http://www.crystalpuresystems.com)
:) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D :D :o :o
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Andrew, a quick question:
What exactly are the "ministry of transport" standards that you claim your systems are fitted to? Where can I see these standards?
The reason I ask is because the "ministry of transport" does not exist, and hasnt for some time (replaced by Department for Transport). No offense but for you te suggest standards from the no-longer existant ministry of transport suggests to me that you dont know what your talking about, and that this is just a line BS.
And I highly doubt they have produced standards for fitting WFP systems.
So, to what standards are you referring and where can we see them?
You are single , right ?
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You are single , right ?
No actually, but thanks for your concern ;D
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You are single , right ?
No actually, but thanks for your concern ;D
I can do marraige counsiling , if you want ;D
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I can do marraige counsiling , if you want
Not married mate, but if and when I tie the knot, I'll give you a bell if I get into difficulty.
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sjm you make me laugh ;D You have a good sense of humour ;)
Andrew,
Looking at stats from the outside Adepta are they winding down or in trouble, just wink ;) ;D
On the other hand like the pitch well done, need more like you!
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Did you get my mail Andrew ? :D
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Did you get my mail Andrew ? :D
Yes thanks mate:)
I will call you early next week.
Andrew
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Ta :-*
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I guess some questions are too awkward to answer then...?
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I guess some questions are too awkward to answer then...?
You need to cut down your alcahol consumption mate ;D
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LOL I'm stone cold sober! I only ever have a pint or two of guinness, and tonight I didnt feel like going out.
Marraige conselling and now alcohol advice, hmmm, maybe you have missed your vocation matey
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LOL I'm stone cold sober! I only ever have a pint or two of guinness, and tonight I didnt feel like going out.
Marraige conselling and now alcohol advice, hmmm, maybe you have missed your vocation matey
Dont know what it is about you , but I just want to vgive you a big hug ;D
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SJM,
I resent your comment about me being negative. I've made several fresh starts.
Imagine if there was a book that offered you a fresh start? I expect it would sell well.
Wind your neck in mate and rewind please !!!!!!!!!! When did I call you negative ????
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Well said Tennant, I dont know Andrew McCann but I do now the guys from Adepta/Pure Freedom. These people have a first glass team and products. All I read on here is neg about them. Andrew McCann states MOT standards but no such standards exist. So how much more BS is Andrew McCann saying about Adepta/Pure Freedom. Someone should ask Adepta/Pure Freedom to post on here. Remember there are all ways two sides.
Mart
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I don't think he (andrew) posted on here to get into a row. A lot of us were being nosey and speculating about him and his future. A lot read this speculation and were concerned because he is well liked (i don't know him) and they began asking too.
As much as anything he's tried to damp all this down. Let's be honest, to us this is just a thread on a forum that resolves some industry gossip, but to the people it affects it is important.
It is muddling though if the best selling trolley product retains the same name, but has no connections to another business of exactly the same name.
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Andrew.....A big thankyou once again for helping me out yesterday afternoon.
Easy Cleaner ::).....Andrew aint the sort of guy to slag off anyone (read his posts before commenting :-X).
He is one of lifes genuine people. THAT is why people use him and always will..
Bob
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OK let me put this one to bed.
Yes there was a lot of speculation about my situation. I received many emails etc after a thread was started about whether or not I was still with Adepta. Technically I was because I had resigned and was on garden leave. I felt that it would be very wrong of me to make any announcements or comments whilst still under the employ of Adepta.
I did not take the decision to leave Adepta lightly. I was very proud of what we had achieved in a relatively short time however over a period of time I felt less and less fulfilled for a few reasons which a public forum like this one is not a place to detail them. I had been considering my position for some time before making a decision to leave.
I am now in the position of being 100% in control of my company and it's values. Number one will ALWAYS be total dedication to customer care and satisfaction with both products and aftercare.
You are dealing with peoples livelihoods when supplying them WFP equipment especially if they are just making the changeover from trad and I take this responsibility very seriously indeed.
I will be changing the wording of any publicly available material re the Ministry of Transport standards. I apologise for any confusion caused. This was not intentional. What I will say is that I have chosen VERY CAREFULLY INDEED the company which fit any tank systems supplied through my company. They HAVE to work to strict legal standards in their daily business which is the maintenance,repair and modification of commercial vehicles, trailers etc. Every system WILL be very securely installed using the CHASSIS as the main securing point.
Regards
Andrew
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Andrew.....A big thankyou once again for helping me out yesterday afternoon.
He is one of lifes genuine people. THAT is why people use him and always will..
Bob
Oh hello again Bob :)
You are welcome :) (As is anyone)
Terrible stuff that duct tape isn't it? ;D :)
Andrew
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:-X ssshhhh
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Andrew,
What happens when you drop ship to your man down south 'Craig'. Will hes guys fit the system to this Ministry of Transport Standards?
I'm sure he will as he looks like hes getting a very good deal there. However I dont like middle men!
Pro
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Andrew,
What happens when you drop ship to your man down south 'Craig'. Will hes guys fit the system to this Ministry of Transport Standards?
I'm sure he will as he looks like hes getting a very good deal there. However I dont like middle men!
Pro
Hi Pro.
As previously stated in this thread I DO NOT supply systems to Craig.
Andrew
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Call me pedantic or just plain nosey, but you are no longer associated with the iconic trolley and don't stock it as a product?
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Call me pedantic or just plain nosey, but you are no longer associated with the iconic trolley and don't stock it as a product?
I think that my name will always be associated with the trolley in question. I had the first one made for my own window cleaning business. I initially brought it to the markets attention and have "lived" with it for almost 3 years but the time has come for a parting of the ways from it :'(
I now have no association with it and do not stock it as a product.
As mentioned earlier in this thread I do have another trolley under development. I hope to bring it to market in 6 to 8 weeks.
Andrew
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Ok Andrew,
Its just strange how his systems bear a striking resemblance to your system.
Also if you dont supply to him its very odd that he's selling your Flow Masters?
Pro
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Well said Tennant, I dont know Andrew McCann but I do now the guys from Adepta/Pure Freedom. These people have a first glass team and products. All I read on here is neg about them. Andrew McCann states MOT standards but no such standards exist. So how much more BS is Andrew McCann saying about Adepta/Pure Freedom. Someone should ask Adepta/Pure Freedom to post on here. Remember there are all ways two sides.
Mart
If you don't know Andrew then how can you make a comment regarding him, I for one know you will not get what you call BS from his mouth, he is one of the most honest guy's on here, Just read the comments from the Guy's WHO DO KNOW HIM.
I've dealt with him for a couple of years now, the equipment he sold me is still working after 2 years of daily service, if I ever needed advice he was always there to help, the advice I recieved when he was away on holiday from the other guy's at adepta to be honest was rubbish and money orientated, That's not Andrew MaCanns way of working.
Get a reality check mate, until you know someone, don't give negative comments.
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Hi again Pro :)
Crais HAS been supplied systems by A.N.OTHER company who also sell the flowmasters.
I have not supplied him with any goods whatsoever to my knowledge through my new company.
Andrew
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I think that it is time to lock this topic.
It was started to confirm to the forum members that I am no longer with Adepta and that I now have my own company. The last thing I want is any controversy.
I can see no more purpose in leaving it open. All info has been given and questions answered.
Many thanks to all who have contributed.
To be honest all I want to do now is concentrate on building my new business in as stress free a manner as possible.
It is good and somewhat humbling to know that so many people are behind me. It reinforces my conviction that companies and people with their customers best interests as their foremost principal are recognised as being valued.
Thank you all.
Andrew