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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: paul mc on July 01, 2008, 09:00:31 am

Title: rain rain
Post by: paul mc on July 01, 2008, 09:00:31 am
how many guys work in the rain got up tis morning pin down .when i change to wfp will i be fit to work away when its rainin. cant keep tools try when cleaning trad way
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Tom Mac on July 01, 2008, 09:07:27 am
I WFP in the rain. Only stop if its really hammering down or if the wind gets up. The pole is hard to control in the wind.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Dean Aspects on July 01, 2008, 06:49:27 pm
Trad of wfp i dont work in the rain possibly light rain to get a job or block of work finished but otherwise no
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: [GQC] Tim on July 01, 2008, 07:29:30 pm
So easy now to clean windows in the rain with wfp, used to be an absolute nightmare with microfibres etc.

Now, it's very nice actually to earn money, only thing which sucks is the hose gets all grubby. You get it on your hands, then on your pole, then your nice carbonfibre pole starts scratching lol.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: sherco on July 01, 2008, 07:33:04 pm
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: [GQC] Tim on July 01, 2008, 07:38:30 pm
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.

Why, windows come up perfect everytime.

You must be using fairy liquid, nice for the dishes, but spots for the windows.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: rugby on July 01, 2008, 07:56:30 pm
work in the rain  :o     no thank you,i hate getting wet
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Sir Squeaky on July 01, 2008, 07:57:00 pm
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.

Why, windows come up perfect everytime.
Yeah right. ;D

Why do you think customers don't want to see you in the rain?

It mucks up the windows. ::)

Lie to the customers by all means, but don't try to tell other window cleaners that. ;D

Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Ian_Giles on July 02, 2008, 06:16:47 am
Rain doesn't cause spots squeaky!
But if the rain is lashing against the windows it is also lashing against everything around them, water that then runs off the surroundings and onto the glass will be contaminated, ergo the windows will dry out spotty.
Ditto of course with muck in the atmosphere when it is really windy.

you can work in conditions that would stop you were you trad, but there comes a point when the conditions get too severe, it is where you judge that point to be that is the kicker :-\

Ian
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Londoner on July 02, 2008, 06:38:23 am
This question has been kicking around on here for years. I agree we should clean in the rain, well light rain anyway but the fact is the customers don't like it.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: sjm on July 02, 2008, 07:01:28 am
If its raining , and the customer is complaining , I just explain ( with puppy dog eyes ) that I provide a come rain or shine service , unlike the other fly by night , summer only cowboys  ;D
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: [GQC] Tim on July 02, 2008, 08:27:50 am
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.

Why, windows come up perfect everytime.
Yeah right. ;D

Why do you think customers don't want to see you in the rain?

It mucks up the windows. ::)

Lie to the customers by all means, but don't try to tell other window cleaners that. ;D



Calling me a liar?

Funny, because everytime it pours down, and I inspect the windows after the sun comes out again, they are absolutely spotless.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Sir Squeaky on July 02, 2008, 08:49:19 am
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.

Why, windows come up perfect everytime.
Yeah right. ;D

Why do you think customers don't want to see you in the rain?

It mucks up the windows. ::)

Lie to the customers by all means, but don't try to tell other window cleaners that. ;D



Calling me a liar?

Funny, because everytime it pours down, and I inspect the windows after the sun comes out again, they are absolutely spotless.
ok.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: john tomkins on July 02, 2008, 09:00:34 am
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.

Why, windows come up perfect everytime.
Yeah right. ;D

Why do you think customers don't want to see you in the rain?

It mucks up the windows. ::)

Lie to the customers by all means, but don't try to tell other window cleaners that. ;D



Calling me a liar?

Funny, because everytime it pours down, and I inspect the windows after the sun comes out again, they are absolutely spotless.

So say you do 12 houses in the rain, you then wait till the sun shines and get your ladder out and go around every window top and bottom of those 12 houses again looking to see if they were perfect ::)

Not calling you a liar, but it does seem a little excessive ;D
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 02, 2008, 11:45:32 am
I believe that in most rainy conditions that it won't effect the windows to any noticeable degree.

Occasionally, tho' you get that "sandy" rain which leaves sandy marks on cars etc when it dries and if that is accompanied by wind it can blow on the glass and cause spotting.

Most householders instincts are that they don't want to have their windows done in the rain - it doesn't "feel" right, same as they often initially don't want wfp and they wanted you to collect and they only wanted you to clean when they were in and opened the gate and, and, and...

So you have to train them to your way of working. You do this by having confidence that you offer them better than their perceptions ... you're regular, you'll turn up on time, you do a good job etc etc etc.

Personally, I hate working in the rain and that's why I tell my custy's that if it's dry I'll clean'em and if I've started and it comes on to rain then I'll finish that house. And if it's just patchy drizzle then I'll prolly continue. I also tell'em I have very full books and that if they turn me away cuz it's grey or cloudy or "it might rain" then I will have to find another customer from my "long, so long, long, long" ;D waiting list.

(Not that long mind cuz I've taken a day off today! ;D)
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: ftp on July 02, 2008, 01:49:14 pm
I wouldn't have chosen this job if i had to work in the rain - can't think of anything worse than staring skyward in the pouring rain.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Ian Lancaster on July 02, 2008, 03:55:57 pm
Wouldnt let my window cleaner do my windows in the rain.

Biggest mistake you can make, letting the customers dictate to you.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on July 02, 2008, 04:00:58 pm
what happened to the customer is always right ? after all its their money!
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 02, 2008, 05:15:38 pm
what happened to the customer is always right ? after all its their money!

And it's our time ...
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Sir Squeaky on July 02, 2008, 05:30:01 pm
what happened to the customer is always right ? after all its their money!

And it's our time ...
Yeah, but the customer is the one who's paying.
It's up to them.
There's nothing in writing.

That's like running a shop, and saying you must buy something.

It's up to the customer.
I wouldn't be dictated to by the window cleaner, and doubt anyone else would do either.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: davids3511 on July 02, 2008, 07:38:41 pm
what happened to the customer is always right ? after all its their money!

And it's our time ...
Yeah, but the customer is the one who's paying.
It's up to them.
There's nothing in writing.

That's like running a shop, and saying you must buy something.

It's up to the customer.
I wouldn't be dictated to by the window cleaner, and doubt anyone else would do either.

That is a two way street. If the customer simply refuses to see things your way then part company and let them find another cleaner who will bow to their wishes. I wouldn't want to build a business on 'maybe not today's'. Better to prune them out early and replace with better work.
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: simbo on July 02, 2008, 08:00:55 pm
same old bull again!!!! no matter what you say its the customers choice as to wether you clean in the rain or not, not ours and lets face it they are prob thinking there isn't much point anyway, or oh they are still clean anyway or any number of reasons. Truth is 99% could not care less as long as they don't look minging.
its just window cleaning, nobody dies if it don't get done.
simbo
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: Neil271052 on July 03, 2008, 08:08:49 am
LOL

Very good post Simbo and very factual too.  :)
Title: Re: rain rain
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 03, 2008, 01:11:35 pm
Not as simple as that guys. There are those on this forum who clean come rain or shine and they have built a customer base that goes along with the way they work.

I don't work in the rain because I hate it and don't want to. If I wanted to I would take on some custies who would let me.

Just because some of you can't/won't or are too fearful to negotiate reasonable "rainy day" terms with your customers, don't try and tell me it's not possible!

You'll be saying you can't educate custies to go over to wfp next! Oh ... one or two of you might still believe that too.