Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easycleaner on June 28, 2008, 10:20:52 am
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Hi, I have a 40" ro system and Iam thinking of fitting another 40" ro to give me quicker fill, I have pre filters and a 18" DI. How do I add the second RO and will it give me faster filling?
Mart.
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Have you got a decent pump fitted to it? I was advised that your better off with a decent pump rather than two ro's and no pump. good advise in my mind the pump makes all the difference :)
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I know that RO man recommends twinning the RO's as an upgrade. Yes a pump will allow the RO to produce more water at a quicker rate but twinning the RO is the next stage. You can take it further. RO man says that you can have 3 membranes per system.
more here: www.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php/cPath/34/products_id/132
There's a diagram as well to show you how you would fit it. The diagram shows the fitting for one of their systems but, you can do the same with other RO's
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Pumps are noisy and problematic. If your tap pressure is anyway decent, I'd double up before I considered a pump.
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Thanks, but has anyony got any info how to pipe the 40" ROs together?
Mart
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easycleaner.
its simple to do mate,
take the waste tap & hose off your existing ro,then get some regular hose and link the waste of your 1st ro to the inlet of your new ro.
then put the tap on the waste of your new ro
what you have is 1 waste pipe and 2 purfied pipes, ive just linked those together but you can leave seperate, it makes no difference just less hose being used
this is suposed to be the most efficient way to run twin 40" ro's, i run mine off just hose pressure
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easycleaner.
its simple to do mate,
take the waste tap & hose off your existing ro,then get some regular hose and link the waste of your 1st ro to the inlet of your new ro.
then put the tap on the waste of your new ro
what you have is 1 waste pipe and 2 purfied pipes, ive just linked those together but you can leave seperate, it makes no difference just less hose being used
this is suposed to be the most efficient way to run twin 40" ro's, i run mine off just hose pressure
Do you have any idea what the waste from the first Ro going into the second is ? will that not kill the second ro quick as waste coming from my 4040 is in the 6/700s
I am asking because I am interested in doing this myself for a new setup.
Ian
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The waste from my 1st ro is about 470,not sure on what effect it has on the 2nd ro,
at that reading it probably wont last as long ,but it is suposed to be the most efficent way,i can fill up a 640 ibc in a couple of hours, not sure on how it works with 2 feeds and 2 waste
i got my info from sureclean, if you phone them they give you more info, there really helpfull
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this is from gaps water showing same set up
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Ok, the waste from the first RO go's into the feed on the second RO. Do both the outlets feed linked into the DI. If they do, do they sufer from back pressure? Want to get this right.
Cheers Mart.
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this is from gaps water showing same set up
can you do a quick red line how this goes, red line from start to tank on both and to finish black line for waste ?
Sry for being a pain but that pic make it hard to understand.
Ian
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After carbon filter the feed is split between 2 ro's both producing to the outlet. increase pressure to a single ro same result almost.
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i have a static ro & tanks, i then transfer from there to my 640 ibc in the van via a sub pump which takes only 8 mins(handy if you have a big job locally and run out of water), my DI vessel is in the van that way if there is any dirt in the tank it filters that too and as its not connected to the ro it wont effect its performance
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the pic posted b4 was as chris@c.m.s described, this one ive edited quickly is the way ive set mine up , im pretty sure this way uses less water it doubles the pure water and reduces the waste,the other way you double your fresh and double your waste
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How do you flush them?
Bazz...
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Theres a tap on the waste pipe that regulates the pressure but when opened allows ro to be flushed
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I dont see how that flushes both of them at the same time.
Bazz...
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im no expert, but i guess when you turn the tap to flush theres no exit pressure so the water just flushes through and is not pushed through the membranes
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I see what you mean now..
Bazz...
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that setup saves water and increases production rate - however if you really want to increase fill times then the best way is to split your feed into both inlets and have 2 seperate drains.
this is how my twin 4040 is set up, with a booster pump.
600ltrs/hr @ 100psi.
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Thanks Steve-uk and alanwilson for your help, Iam going to set mine up Steves way first and test it then set it up Alans way and test it and hope to post the result. I think the call one way in series and the other in parellel. (I think thats what I rember from physics loads of years ago!)
Cheers Mart.
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just remember you need good feed pressure and flow for it to work well in parrallel - benefit is increased prod rate and increased membrane life