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Title: battery not lasting
Post by: vivaro 013 on June 25, 2008, 08:38:11 pm
battery not lasting the day out , took battery of last week left with a auto electrician  to charge up over the weekend , put battery back on monday now showing signs of battery going flat, took battery back to auto electrician  today, put test meter on battery all ok, battery has not been over used since monday .
i can here relay click in when ingintion is turned on plus if van is started pump run at full flow
has anybody got any ideas what problem could be
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: jeff1 on June 25, 2008, 08:44:42 pm
What sort of distances are you travelling between Jobs? are you saying you have a split charge relay?
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: vivaro 013 on June 25, 2008, 08:54:05 pm
thanks jeff for your reply
monday traveling between jobs  ok
tuesday used 30 minutes every 2 hrs ok
wednesday traveling between jobs until dinnertime, after noon 4 jobs van not move
yes jeff battery goes from a split charger
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: jeff1 on June 25, 2008, 09:03:24 pm
Hi vivaro 013, this is one reason I won't use a split charge relay, you have to cover some decent mileage to recharge the battery, your split charger and your relay must restore your vans battery before it starts to give a decent charge to your auxiliary battery.

You'll get guy's saying I have had one for years and no problems? All vehicles are different and so are there alternators  fitted to there vans.

If you have your own battery charger I would remove your battery every couple of days and recharge it over night, if its a leisure battery, you may be able to restore it back to a good battery, make sure the cell's are topped up with distilled water to just above the plates.

If you don't have your own charger then I would recommend you buy one from Halfords, there intelligent charger is very good.
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: dd on June 25, 2008, 09:11:54 pm
Just buy another battery, cheaper than having to take time time off and messing about. Quite likely battery has had it.

Just keeep new battery better charged.

 
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: vivaro 013 on June 25, 2008, 09:31:25 pm
thanks again jeff
today when i finished battery was about flat with charge , when battery was tested today only after traveling 10 miles to garage battery showed a good charge and no broken cells, the battery itself is a leisure battery 110amps , the van itself is a fiat scudo only a year old , if i was to take battery of every couple off days and charge, i don,t think it still would last day out with extreme use when van is stationery and wfp is pole used frequently over 4 to 5 hrs . auto electain has offered to loan me another fully charge battery to try out to see  what results i get, what do other wfp users get out of there battery when van is stationery
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: russ_clark on June 25, 2008, 09:49:31 pm
we use 110 amph leisure batteries.
Have removed/disconnected split charge relays
as we have fairly compact round so do not
do enough mileage for the relays to boost battery.
We changed to an intelligent charger
from cleaning spot £40 mark
charge batteries in situ every couple of days and
have never had a problem
Russ
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: jeff1 on June 25, 2008, 09:54:42 pm
thanks again jeff
today when i finished battery was about flat with charge , when battery was tested today only after traveling 10 miles to garage battery showed a good charge and no broken cells, the battery itself is a leisure battery 110amps , the van itself is a fiat scudo only a year old , if i was to take battery of every couple off days and charge, i don,t think it still would last day out with extreme use when van is stationery and wfp is pole used frequently over 4 to 5 hrs . auto electain has offered to loan me another fully charge battery to try out to see  what results i get, what do other wfp users get out of there battery when van is stationery

It really sounds to me your not getting enough charge back into it, a bench or like russ said in situ charge even with a new one it won't be long before its flat again, a pain in the bum but I charge mine every day and mine is years old.
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: easycleaner on June 25, 2008, 11:59:14 pm
I had a problem the same as this, spoke to one of the engineers at purefreedom.
If its a leisure battery you have to keep it charged, dont let it go flat it ruins it.
A battery even if flat can show 12 volts, it needs to be tested under load as does a battery charger.
Hope this helps
Mart
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: Londoner on June 26, 2008, 07:09:05 am
How old is the battery? These leisure batteries don't last long. I am about to buy a new one but the old one is only about a year old. It just goes flat.
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: dd on June 26, 2008, 06:48:42 pm
I use 85 amp leisure battery. Split charge relay on van, but take battery out most days to charge overnight. Always carry a SPARE.
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: vivaro 013 on June 26, 2008, 09:44:30 pm
today i tried turning electronic flow regulator down to  roundabout medium pump seem to run slower but output of water seem about the same.overall. I would say i used a little less water , the battery seem to show less signs of going flat ,i was traveling between jobs on and off , on occasions van was standing for over a hour   
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: Ryan J Askew on July 08, 2008, 08:56:13 pm
Hello mate ,ive not long bout a lovely VITO. The only prob i had was with the battery! merc only put a 400amp battery on the van,changed now to a 900amp no probs .Check the amp mate
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: windowwashers on July 08, 2008, 09:04:16 pm
thanks again jeff
today when i finished battery was about flat with charge , when battery was tested today only after traveling 10 miles to garage battery showed a good charge and no broken cells, the battery itself is a leisure battery 110amps , the van itself is a fiat scudo only a year old , if i was to take battery of every couple off days and charge, i don,t think it still would last day out with extreme use when van is stationery and wfp is pole used frequently over 4 to 5 hrs . auto electain has offered to loan me another fully charge battery to try out to see  what results i get, what do other wfp users get out of there battery when van is stationery

110 amp hour battery should easy last more than a day.

The signs are saying the battery is on its way out, or it is being drained some how, I have a 110amh battery 2 can use all day and sometimes all the next day aswell.

I always carry 2 batteries just incase one goes out, I do not have a split charge relay I could have but charging one every night is a 2 min job that I can trust.
Title: Re: battery not lasting
Post by: scud on July 08, 2008, 10:22:35 pm
  i have a battery from an articulated lorry, it will last 2 weeks off a full charge, then it still issn't totally flat, I use approx 500 ltr a day with that.

  They are easy to get hold off, just try a laybay late at night - but be very quiet! ;)