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Title: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 09:46:55 pm
I may have a big job coming up - its too far for us but for anyone local to it then it would be a fantastic job.

I'm not giving anything away just yet but the job takes 115hrs per month.

If I was subbing it out how much would it cost per month?

serious replies please, this is a large commercial job.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: twt on June 23, 2008, 09:52:47 pm
£3000 to £3500 in my opinion(for what thats worth)
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: chrismroberts on June 23, 2008, 09:54:30 pm
£3500. Where are you?
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 09:55:58 pm
thanks mate.

it would probably suit an employer better than a one or two man show as the working hrs are quite restrictive.  It has to be done early morning although its a constant job, not a one off.

how much would you want sheepmeister?
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: twt on June 23, 2008, 09:57:32 pm
£3500. Where are you?
lincolnshire, why?
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: cbcs on June 23, 2008, 09:58:40 pm
I'd want £2500.00 - £3000.00 for that sort of work. I take it its WFP?
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 10:00:53 pm
if you were paying staff 115hrs @ £10 an hr + costs

= £1150/month + costs.

does that sound reasonable?

I understand you would need to make a profit on it but assuming costs of max £500 per month then £1650/month plus whatever you need for a profit.

most of the work is inside, trad, a little work outside with wfp.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: chrismroberts on June 23, 2008, 10:01:04 pm
thanks mate.

it would probably suit an employer better than a one or two man show as the working hrs are quite restrictive.  It has to be done early morning although its a constant job, not a one off.

how much would you want sheepmeister?

Me? A lot of money... well, about £3500 if I had the man power. Just over £30 an hour. Like you say, it would suit an employer, which I'm not as yet.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: sjm on June 23, 2008, 10:02:02 pm
£5,600 minimum charge  ;D
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 10:06:21 pm
ok jonah!

you cannot be serious?
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: cbcs on June 23, 2008, 10:09:10 pm
Keep me in mind Alan please.

Chris.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: chrismroberts on June 23, 2008, 10:11:40 pm
Alan, whereabouts is the job?
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 10:12:51 pm
I'm not giving anymore away until I get confirmation, I don't want to raise anybody's expectations.



Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: sjm on June 23, 2008, 10:15:11 pm
ok jonah!

you cannot be serious?
Sorry Allan , dont want to throw a spanner in the works mate ! ( was just thinking out loud )  Please ignore me lol  ;D
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: LWC on June 23, 2008, 10:15:51 pm
£5,600 minimum charge  ;D

errr plus vat
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: cvdewsbury on June 23, 2008, 10:17:18 pm
I may have a big job coming up - its too far for us but for anyone local to it then it would be a fantastic job.

I'm not giving anything away just yet but the job takes 115hrs per month.

If I was subbing it out how much would it cost per month?

serious replies please, this is a large commercial job.

Allan,

just a general observation if you aint got the job how do you know it takes 115 hours per month?

Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: twt on June 23, 2008, 10:19:01 pm
if you were paying staff 115hrs @ £10 an hr + costs

= £1150/month + costs.

does that sound reasonable?

I understand you would need to make a profit on it but assuming costs of max £500 per month then £1650/month plus whatever you need for a profit.

most of the work is inside, trad, a little work outside with wfp.

Im guessing that my price came in too high but if you are going to pay someone £10/hour and have them out in a fully kitted up van then they need to be generating at the very  least £20/hour (£2300 total cost for 115 hours) £25/hour would be better(£2875 total) or £30 top end for an employee (£3450 total). If you couldn't get any of these prices for commercial work you may as well have them on domestic work. These no point employing someone if they don't earn you money, i learnt this the hard way.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: sjm on June 23, 2008, 10:19:33 pm
Am I too Dear ?  Honestly I am quoting for jobs , but if you guys think I am over the top please tell me now , and I maybe get at least one ! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: sjm on June 23, 2008, 10:22:57 pm
if you were paying staff 115hrs @ £10 an hr + costs

= £1150/month + costs.

does that sound reasonable?

I understand you would need to make a profit on it but assuming costs of max £500 per month then £1650/month plus whatever you need for a profit.

most of the work is inside, trad, a little work outside with wfp.

Im guessing that my price came in too high but if you are going to pay someone £10/hour and have them out in a fully kitted up van then they need to be generating at the very  least £20/hour (£2300 total cost for 115 hours) £25/hour would be better(£2875 total) or £30 top end for an employee (£3450 total). If you couldn't get any of these prices for commercial work you may as well have them on domestic work. These no point employing someone if they don't earn you money, i learnt this the hard way.
Is that we are both skint ?  ;D
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 10:24:29 pm
I know it takes 115hrs because I may be taking it over from another firm who have told me it takes that long, they quoted £1400 for it and are giving it up.

I'm not sure whether our quote has been accepted or not.

Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: sjm on June 23, 2008, 10:27:41 pm
I know it takes 115hrs because I may be taking it over from another firm who have told me it takes that long, they quoted £1400 for it and are giving it up.

I'm not sure whether our quote has been accepted or not.


And you are wondering why ????????? ::)
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 23, 2008, 10:31:54 pm
jonah

can you e-mail me please

alanwilson@lycos.co.uk

I had to change the e-mail again because of the continual stream of crap going to it.

Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: sjm on June 24, 2008, 07:11:56 am
Mail sent  ;)
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: nat on June 24, 2008, 08:12:05 am
i take it you mean 115 man hours. so if you had 2 men on the job it would take 57.5 hours. sorry i'm lazy and can't be arsed to read the whole post!! ;D ;D

what ever way round it was i would be heading for £5750 minimum but trying to push higher. i wouldn't even touch it for anything less than 5750 and would make more money on domestics. commercial is suppose to be the cream and i really wouldn't bother with it otherwise
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: Sir Squeaky on June 24, 2008, 08:21:13 am
i take it you mean 115 man hours. so if you had 2 men on the job it would take 57.5 hours. sorry i'm lazy and can't be arsed to read the whole post!! ;D ;D

what ever way round it was i would be heading for £5750 minimum but trying to push higher. i wouldn't even touch it for anything less than 5750 and would make more money on domestics. commercial is suppose to be the cream and i really wouldn't bother with it otherwise
So you want £100 per hour to clean windows?

Don't think you'd get the job... ;D
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: nat on June 24, 2008, 08:35:36 am
i take it you mean 115 man hours. so if you had 2 men on the job it would take 57.5 hours. sorry i'm lazy and can't be arsed to read the whole post!! ;D ;D

what ever way round it was i would be heading for £5750 minimum but trying to push higher. i wouldn't even touch it for anything less than 5750 and would make more money on domestics. commercial is suppose to be the cream and i really wouldn't bother with it otherwise
So you want £100 per hour to clean windows?

Don't think you'd get the job... ;D

ok squeaks  ;)

i could have 1 person out earning £50 per hour on houses mate so why would i want to take anything less on commercial? i have commercial that earns far over that.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: alanwilson on June 24, 2008, 11:43:28 pm
ok girls no need to fall out
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: ronnie paton on June 25, 2008, 07:37:49 am
i would say no less than £2500 but more like £3500, you prob want to make 20% at least alan
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: chrismroberts on June 25, 2008, 07:59:51 pm
i take it you mean 115 man hours. so if you had 2 men on the job it would take 57.5 hours. sorry i'm lazy and can't be arsed to read the whole post!! ;D ;D

what ever way round it was i would be heading for £5750 minimum but trying to push higher. i wouldn't even touch it for anything less than 5750 and would make more money on domestics. commercial is suppose to be the cream and i really wouldn't bother with it otherwise
So you want £100 per hour to clean windows?

Don't think you'd get the job... ;D

ok squeaks  ;)

i could have 1 person out earning £50 per hour on houses mate so why would i want to take anything less on commercial? i have commercial that earns far over that.

Maybe so... but to get 115 hours of £50 an hour domestic work would be pretty difficult all at once... not to mention fuel bills for running around between houses, chasing the money etc.... if you charge 115 hours of commercial out at £30 an hour, the client is getting good economy of scale, and you are getting £3500 for one job, which gets paid all at once... seems pretty reasonable  :)
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: nat on June 25, 2008, 08:03:28 pm
i take it you mean 115 man hours. so if you had 2 men on the job it would take 57.5 hours. sorry i'm lazy and can't be arsed to read the whole post!! ;D ;D

what ever way round it was i would be heading for £5750 minimum but trying to push higher. i wouldn't even touch it for anything less than 5750 and would make more money on domestics. commercial is suppose to be the cream and i really wouldn't bother with it otherwise
So you want £100 per hour to clean windows?

Don't think you'd get the job... ;D

ok squeaks  ;)

i could have 1 person out earning £50 per hour on houses mate so why would i want to take anything less on commercial? i have commercial that earns far over that.

Maybe so... but to get 115 hours of £50 an hour domestic work would be pretty difficult all at once... not to mention fuel bills for running around between houses, chasing the money etc.... if you charge 115 hours of commercial out at £30 an hour, the client is getting good economy of scale, and you are getting £3500 for one job, which gets paid all at once... seems pretty reasonable  :)

you run your business your way i'll run it mine ;) if you need to chase money then you should catch up with the times mate.
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: chrismroberts on June 25, 2008, 08:12:21 pm
i take it you mean 115 man hours. so if you had 2 men on the job it would take 57.5 hours. sorry i'm lazy and can't be arsed to read the whole post!! ;D ;D

what ever way round it was i would be heading for £5750 minimum but trying to push higher. i wouldn't even touch it for anything less than 5750 and would make more money on domestics. commercial is suppose to be the cream and i really wouldn't bother with it otherwise
So you want £100 per hour to clean windows?

Don't think you'd get the job... ;D

ok squeaks  ;)

i could have 1 person out earning £50 per hour on houses mate so why would i want to take anything less on commercial? i have commercial that earns far over that.

Maybe so... but to get 115 hours of £50 an hour domestic work would be pretty difficult all at once... not to mention fuel bills for running around between houses, chasing the money etc.... if you charge 115 hours of commercial out at £30 an hour, the client is getting good economy of scale, and you are getting £3500 for one job, which gets paid all at once... seems pretty reasonable  :)

you run your business your way i'll run it mine ;) if you need to chase money then you should catch up with the times mate.

OK, deal  :P :P Oh... no I don't need to chase any money.... ;)
Title: Re: big job how much
Post by: AJ on June 25, 2008, 08:32:26 pm
if its in sth east, get in touch. sure we can help.