Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: macmac on June 23, 2008, 08:51:55 pm
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Where are you dudes, miss your posts & input to the forum. I've not been as cyber active of late so i may have missed summat. I know DJW left but was hoping he would have re-joined by now. If you have dave let us know your new user ID. MATT (diy matt) seems to have just gone too ???
Maybe it's the sudden influx of one-up-manship wannabe Alan Sugars, i don't know but 2 genuine, knowlageable, honest guys are missing! :'(
Come back, some of us are getting out-numbered! :D
Tony
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"now just you listen here sonny jim, i remember the day when we used to use a bit of spit and elbow grease"
(http://www.ahook.net/searches/old_man.jpg)
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DJW has gotta be reading these boards, with his input and thirst for new ideas/equipment there is no way he'd just leave and not come back.
Hi DJW, get back posting ;D
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Maybe it's the sudden influx of one-up-manship wannabe Alan Sugars, i don't know but 2 genuine, knowlageable, honest guys are missing! :'(
Come back, some of us are getting out-numbered! :D
Tony
Don't know how to take mac macs slightly derogated comment ... to me everyone on here has a special talent just being self employed and providing for themself and family been the main one!! ;)
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I'm back!! (DJW) Never went too far, still reading but just can't be arsed to post to be honest. I spent too long reading about massive ego's and general bitching so i'm just sitting on the sideline if you like. Thanks for your concern Tony. ;)
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I'm back!! (DJW) Never went too far, still reading but just can't be arsed to post to be honest. I spent too long reading about massive ego's and general bitching so i'm just sitting on the sideline if you like. Thanks for your concern Tony. ;)
Nice one matey, glad you're still about & doing ok. how you getting on with the sl-x?
As for the ego's, i tend to sit back & laugh at it, remember it's an open forum so just take the bits you want & discard the rest! ;)
Tony
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I'm back!! (DJW) Never went too far, still reading but just can't be arsed to post to be honest. I spent too long reading about massive ego's and general bitching so i'm just sitting on the sideline if you like. Thanks for your concern Tony. ;)
Welcome back :)
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"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. ( Godfather film quote ) . Nice to see you are still with us ;D
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Not so much want to be Alan Sugar, Just window cleaners keeping up with the times and wanting to be moving forward realistically. In a fast changing industry with new innovation and rules come new people and fresh ideas.
It's really only just wiping a bit of water around on a bit of glass at the end of the day though isn't it?
Not rocket science ;)
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Okay then if you are all so smart, smart enought to be Alan Sugar's apprentice maybe, heres something...
I admitt I didn't spot DJW, and well done to him by the way for speaking up..
But what about mattb have you spotted him yet? ;D
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If you are right, what’s the point of all these post? Or any of the forum sections on window cleaning?
The point of a forum is to get like minded people or people with similar interests /jobs etc together for chat about what interests them, swap experiences and let off a bit of steam .
I post on other types of forums (watches, antiques) as well and it usually a pleasant experience.
Anecdotes about window cleaning which we can all enjoy and have a laugh about are preferable IMO to someone who posts thinking they are the latest Howard Hughes. ;)
As I said, business models etc etc are fine in the world of commerce but with window cleaning it is just getting customers at the right price and then sloshing a bit of water around on a piece of glass.
No more complicated than that. ;D
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Why do you and others have to jump to the extremes? From being a self employed window cleaner to Howard Hughes or Alan Sugar these types of business people are super capitalist and are a very unique breed.
There is thousands of different size of businesses in between the sole trader and famous capitalist.
Of course there are
Just because you have reached your level, doesn’t mean everybody else has to stop at your level. The forum is just not for your level of understanding of window cleaning.
Are there higher levels of window cleaning understanding?
Can you get a degree in window cleaning? LOL
there are people on here who employ dozens of staff and I’m sure for them there is more to it than sloshing a bit of water around on a piece of glass.
There are indeed but aside from the aspects of employing people which are reasonably simple with an accountant and a payroll firm what does it all come down to..........."getting customers at the right price and sloshing some water around on a piece of glass."
They tend to post less not only because they are busy.
What does that mean? Please try and construct meaningful sentences.
Because the forum has your type always expressing you view on a subject you no nothing about.
I "know" how to spell and construct meaningful sentences which go down well at board meetings.
I have a business background, do you?
When really they have the real experience and knowledge of a larger window cleaning business that a lot on this forum could really benefit from regardless of whether you remain sole trader. ;)
Disagree.
How can somebody who wants to remain a sole trader learn from a larger window cleaning business?
They don't need to know about employment law, VAT etc.
It's the same job in a bigger way.
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I can't understand why anyone would think a w/c'er who's a sole trader & doesn't want to expand beyond that status is somehow a cowboy ???
Ewan, do you have any idea what a sole trader w/c'er can earn? ::)
Tony
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It’s not my way or my opinion, there are different ways to actually run your business as a sole trader some are requirements others not, but you have the option.
Out of interest Ewan and assuming everything is above board and legal what are the different ways a sole trader can run a window cleaning business?
Or is it really just as I said,
.........."getting customers at the right price and sloshing some water around on a piece of glass."
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Neil if you are a window cleaner, I bet your round is very compact and your probably only work part time.
Of course it is.
I work four hours a day for full time money although I had already made my fortune in the outdoor advertising business I ran for 25 years. I was a partner in a Carburetter and tuning firm before that. Own my large detached Surrey home outright, I do alright.
With the greatest respect to you I don't think there is much I can be taught about business in the real world but at the end of the day you have to be honest and look at the basis of the actual service or product you provide and not try to gloss it up as something it is not
So your description of getting the right price and then sloshing water about is how you would describe your business.
But of course that is how everybody else runs there business, according to you, you’re right because it’s your opinion.
It is how any window cleaner, sole trader, big business big or small makes his money and I challenge you to tell me different.
Nothing to do with the actual reality of business. Just your opinion and what’s that worth to anybody who doesn’t have an identical setup as you, nothing.
;D
That is the reality of a window cleaning business and as I said before and I quote....
"Out of interest Ewan and assuming everything is above board and legal what are the different ways a sole trader can run a window cleaning business?"
You still haven't answered my question. ;D and I doubt you will.
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Neil if you are a window cleaner, I bet your round is very compact and your probably only work part time.
Of course it is.
I work four hours a day for full time money although I had already made my fortune in the outdoor advertising business I ran for 25 years. I was a partner in a Carburetter and tuning firm before that. Own my large detached Surrey home outright, I do alright.
With the greatest respect to you I don't think there is much I can be taught about business in the real world but at the end of the day you have to be honest and look at the basis of the actual service or product you provide and not try to gloss it up as something it is not
So your description of getting the right price and then sloshing water about is how you would describe your business.
But of course that is how everybody else runs there business, according to you, you’re right because it’s your opinion.
It is how any window cleaner, sole trader, big business big or small makes his money and I challenge you to tell me different.
Nothing to do with the actual reality of business. Just your opinion and what’s that worth to anybody who doesn’t have an identical setup as you, nothing.
;D
That is the reality of a window cleaning business and as I said before and I quote....
"Out of interest Ewan and assuming everything is above board and legal what are the different ways a sole trader can run a window cleaning business?"
You still haven't answered my question. ;D and I doubt you will.
Neil,
With all due respect you seem to be pigeon holing every person on this forum.
As already mentioned, there is a world of difference between a part-time w/c, a full time w/c and an employer.
Are you really suggesting that someone who starts part-time, then progresses to full time, then employs others, then hits VAT thresholds, then submits tenders for council work.. are really all "just sloshing a bit of water about" ?
You dont think maybe there will be hiccups on that road?
You dont think others with vastly more experience could help you plan that road and make your life just that little bit easier?
If you're happy working alone and you're happy at the level you're at, then thats brilliant.
For those that would like to grow their business there are hundreds of questions they need answers to....and employing an accountant will not solve most of them.
Heres few things that spring to mind over and above "sloshing a bit of water about"
Limited Liability (pro's and con's)
VAT threshold
ISOH accreditation
Safe Contractor accreditation
Advertising
FWC or other trade body membership
Health & Safety
Risk assessments
ISO accreditation
IPAF accreditation
Employment Contracts
Your responsibilities as an employer
Health and Safety at work act
....the list goes on :o
If you are suggesting my corner shop is in some way comparable to Tesco then I would beg to differ.
Two extremes I know, but both are "just selling some stuff to customers" are they not?
You need to plan a business. Just waiting for "stuff to happen" is in no way running a business.
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Neil,
With all due respect you seem to be pigeon holing every person on this forum.
The fact that people are on this forum pigeon holes them as window cleaners does it not?
As already mentioned, there is a world of difference between a part-time w/c, a full time w/c and an employer.
Are you really suggesting that someone who starts part-time, then progresses to full time, then employs others, then hits VAT thresholds, then submits tenders for council work.. are really all "just sloshing a bit of water about" ?
You dont think maybe there will be hiccups on that road?
You dont think others with vastly more experience could help you plan that road and make your life just that little bit easier?
I agree and don't forget I did all this over many years in my previous businesses when there wasn't any internet to go to.
If you're happy working alone and you're happy at the level you're at, then thats brilliant.
Thank you. :)
For those that would like to grow their business there are hundreds of questions they need answers to....and employing an accountant will not solve most of them.
I would respectfully disagree here. My firm of chartered accountants kept me on the right road over many years. The partners there have many years of experience of all sorts of companies.
Heres few things that spring to mind over and above "sloshing a bit of water about"
Limited Liability (pro's and con's)
VAT threshold
ISOH accreditation
Safe Contractor accreditation
Advertising
FWC or other trade body membership
Health & Safety
Risk assessments
ISO accreditation
IPAF accreditation
Employment Contracts
Your responsibilities as an employer
Health and Safety at work act
....the list goes on :o
Of course there is more paperwork around now (of course) and the HSE was just coming into fashion when I retired but how is any of the above difficult?
If you are suggesting my corner shop is in some way comparable to Tesco then I would beg to differ.
Two extremes I know, but both are "just selling some stuff to customers" are they not?
........and I would say they are extremely comparable. Not in size but in what they are trying to do.
You need to plan a business. Just waiting for "stuff to happen" is in no way running a business.
And all the business plans in the world are no good if you don't have customers at the right price and don't splash some water about. ;D
You can draft business plans until you are blue in the face but if you don't have the aforesaid well priced customers and water splashing ability you are going nowhere.
Don't forget I have done it all before and reasonably successfully I must say.
I've seen it all the time, people who just want to hold meetings all the time without getting to the nitty gritty.
Thanks for your input. :)
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How can you work part time and earn full time money?
It depends what you call full time money of course but I can earn £50 an hour for four hours a day and that does me. Three semis an hour at £18 each is easily achieved.
One of my customers has a family business been established over 70 years, I have been trading 1 year. When we discuss business she says you never stop learning. Unlike what you say, you don’t think there is much you can be taught about business.
True but I have always concentrated on the viability of the money side and let professionals deal with the paperwork.
I understand what you are saying about the end product/service which is all that you seem to understand. Sole traders clean windows; large window cleaning companies cleans windows.
The answer to your question is blindingly obvious, maybe that’s why you can’t see it. You need to relax take a deep breath read your question again with an open mind.
If you can’t do that, stick with your own opinion? That’s all it is. ;D
Well of course it is. The same as anyone else who posts on here.
You have been trading one year, I have been in different businesses for 30 years which have served me very well. I'll stick to my own methods if you don't mind. ;)
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Neil,
With all due respect you seem to be pigeon holing every person on this forum.
The fact that people are on this forum pigeon holes them as window cleaners does it not?
As already mentioned, there is a world of difference between a part-time w/c, a full time w/c and an employer.
Are you really suggesting that someone who starts part-time, then progresses to full time, then employs others, then hits VAT thresholds, then submits tenders for council work.. are really all "just sloshing a bit of water about" ?
You dont think maybe there will be hiccups on that road?
You dont think others with vastly more experience could help you plan that road and make your life just that little bit easier?
I agree and don't forget I did all this over many years in my previous businesses when there wasn't any internet to go to.
If you're happy working alone and you're happy at the level you're at, then thats brilliant.
Thank you. :)
For those that would like to grow their business there are hundreds of questions they need answers to....and employing an accountant will not solve most of them.
I would respectfully disagree here. My firm of chartered accountants kept me on the right road over many years. The partners there have many years of experience of all sorts of companies.
Heres few things that spring to mind over and above "sloshing a bit of water about"
Limited Liability (pro's and con's)
VAT threshold
ISOH accreditation
Safe Contractor accreditation
Advertising
FWC or other trade body membership
Health & Safety
Risk assessments
ISO accreditation
IPAF accreditation
Employment Contracts
Your responsibilities as an employer
Health and Safety at work act
....the list goes on :o
Of course there is more paperwork around now (of course) and the HSE was just coming into fashion when I retired but how is any of the above difficult?
If you are suggesting my corner shop is in some way comparable to Tesco then I would beg to differ.
Two extremes I know, but both are "just selling some stuff to customers" are they not?
........and I would say they are extremely comparable. Not in size but in what they are trying to do.
You need to plan a business. Just waiting for "stuff to happen" is in no way running a business.
And all the business plans in the world are no good if you don't have customers at the right price and don't splash some water about. ;D
You can draft business plans until you are blue in the face but if you don't have the aforesaid well priced customers and water splashing ability you are going nowhere.
Don't forget I have done it all before and reasonably successfully I must say.
I've seen it all the time, people who just want to hold meetings all the time without getting to the nitty gritty.
Thanks for your input. :)
I would disagree. Not all on this forum are 'window cleaners' some are managing their business and some are indeed 'window cleaners'. There is a difference.
It wasnt my point to suggest that any of the above was difficult. It was more that not all is relevant (depending on size) to everybody on this forum. That there is a natural progression and you should be looking forward if you want to grow.
I too use a firm a Chartered Accountants. I doubt very much he would be able to advise me on H&S or IPAF ;D ...and lets not forget the costs involved with asking them questions!
To suggest my corner shop and Tesco are comparable is very silly indeed. One has massive expansion plans and growth projections while managing its business which it aims to meet. My corner shop sells "stuff".
The aim is the same( to sell "stuff") granted. The level and sophistication (and profit) achieved is somewhat different.
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Thought this was about DJW & MATT ???
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I wonder why i can't be arsed to post anymore................ i remember now! ::)
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I wonder why i can't be arsed to post anymore................ i remember now! ::)
LOL ;)
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I wonder why i can't be arsed to post anymore................ i remember now! ::)
What was i saying about oneupmanship & wannabe Alan sugars ;D ;D ;D
Just remember to sit back & laugh ;)
One things for sure, wfp is certainley guilty of creating a frenzy of over-hyped window cleaners. geeeez, give some a wfp & you'd be forgiven for thinking they had just returned from a 10 year degree in "transluscent weather protection hygene solutions"
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
P.S. think Sir Alan would be wetting himself by now! :o
Sir. Macmac
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Sir Macmac, your certainly right about the laughing bit - most people don't choose a career in vertical glazing maintenance programmes for the thrill of business techniques. Most are forced into it through redundancy and so having no other skills choose windowcleaning for the very reason that it's soooo simple. A few choose it for the free time it offers but for most it's the only viable means to earn a living pretty sharpish with NO training whatsoever!
Must go now, i'm working on my business plan - i have a meeting with my fellow directors any minute now (well when eastenders finishes). Then i must see about sorting out my NVQ plans for my eight year old apprentice (it's going to take at least five years of studying to get her through the stringent rules and regulations of applying water to glass).
Catch you later
Bill Chamoix Gates
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dj and tony ;D ;D ;D
you two make me laugh enough to post
;D ;D ;D ;D
i cant be arsed nowdays unless i have a question
skim thru and read now and then
same old
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i quite like this neil blokes point of view tho ;D
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Phone me and we will discuss business plans, phone my number and i'll tell you how to clean the waterfed way ( i'm vastly experienced in the art of the pole). :-*
Just phone me anyway.
Anyone know how to make a hole in a foam golf ball?
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try hot piece of metal ;D
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Why do my feet get wet?
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because you stand too close to the window
because you wear sandals
because your incontinence pants burst
??? ??? ???
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Ewan, you are just a windowcleaner - you don't seem to get it. I'm hardly threatened by anyone coming into the industry. I'm in it because it's so easy and i can make good money - what are you in it for?
Find me an easier job/business for the same money.
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I shall retire to the sideline and chuckle away. ;D ;D ;D
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I shall retire to the sideline and chuckle away. ;D ;D ;D
ditto,does my head in ::)
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what are you on ::)
get the rod out your ass
jesus christ man
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i take that back
i give up
back to questions only for me ;D
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Ewan
I'm sure everybody on this forum has something to say otherwise they would not be here.
We can give or accept advice, put up with a bit of jovial banter and I certainly enjoy the lightheartedness and sense of fun of many of the members.
There are many reasons why people become window cleaners and it takes all types which is why the posts are often varied.
I have met many "driven" people in my business life and without doubt they have always been the unhappiest.
I apologise to everyone for helping to steer away from the original topic but it is unfortunately often the case on forums. My references to money were unforgiveable also.
Have a good day everyone. :)
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Ewan
First, what you refere to as business, drive, desire, expansion etc, most see this as common sense. that's why it's humour to some of us ;)
What's even funnier is when someone tries to front themselves as being more intelligent than in reality, (which is very easy spot after a few posts) However, you may be good enough to enter discounts top ten of "business savvy elite posters" ;D
I personaly like you, but only because you remind me how good i am ;)
As for the apprentice, i watch only to remind me how happy i am 8)
Sir Macmac the great
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I accept what some of the posters have said on this thread as it applies to me(they don't like me or my ilke) but I am unrepentant. I love the business posts on this forum. I don't care if you think I pretend to be something I'm not.
I have lots of ideas, very often about how other peoples businesses should be run, such as ww(strategy) or Jeff(van) lj(barrels), and I suppose thats where resentment starts, when you begin to tell others how to conduct themselves.
Sorry.
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So what is your story then Ewan?
I think it was your mentioning your dad that piqued my interest. A brief honest outline will do, no need to reveal anything to personal.
My life didn't start untill I was 35 and in a right mess.
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So you had a job or jobs since the eighties untill last year. Presumably had there been a site like this years ago you still wouldn't have made the leap, so what pushed you back to wc and what were your first few weeks like. Did those around you encourage you? Did you think you'd made a mistake?
Your dad didn't retire from wc? is he still fit enought to help? would he help?
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Why has this post not been deleted yet ::)
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Why has this post not been deleted yet ::)
You keep coming back for more dont you ? Admit it you like it ! :-*
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Why has this post not been deleted yet ::)
You keep coming back for more dont you ? Admit it you like it ! :-*
lol,
I am not saying anyhting against anyone thats posted, it is just a pointless topic.
I do wonder though where Matt from diy site is as he helped a lot of poeple.
D'oh I am getting dragged in.
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I do wonder though where Matt from diy site is as he helped a lot of poeple.
c'mon ian, this isn't the place to write an on topic post. ;D
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Why has this post not been deleted yet ::)
You keep coming back for more dont you ? Admit it you like it ! :-*
lol,
I am not saying anyhting against anyone thats posted, it is just a pointless topic.
I do wonder though where Matt from diy site is as he helped a lot of poeple.
D'oh I am getting dragged in.
Ian have you thought about constructing a scale model railway ? ;D
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Why has this post not been deleted yet ::)
You keep coming back for more dont you ? Admit it you like it ! :-*
lol,
I am not saying anyhting against anyone thats posted, it is just a pointless topic.
I do wonder though where Matt from diy site is as he helped a lot of poeple.
D'oh I am getting dragged in.
Ian have you thought about constructing a scale model railway ? ;D
What are you trying to say :o
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Bet you like a bit of twitching on the side too ;) ;D
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Its not a pointless topic Ian, the image of window cleaning has always been knocked, public is bad enough window cleaners belittling it, is worse. >:(
I do agree with you on that one well the last part ;)
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Its not a pointless topic Ian, the image of window cleaning has always been knocked, public is bad enough window cleaners belittling it, is worse. >:(
Ewan , I like you ,but you have to take a step back sometimes mate ;) The things you are posting about business etc have been heard quite a lot from various members . Try to think that you are in a room of millionaires , and you have been invited to talk about what it is like to start up from scratch ! Just try to be humble and ask others opinions ( even if they are diff from your own ) I grew up around a lot of money men ( my dad is loaded ) and you could tell who was the most succsessful by how quiet they were when somone was speaking ! ;D
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;)
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Yes you have made your point ! Now scuttle off ::)
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Yes you have made your point ! Now scuttle off ::)
Thats not nice Jonah ::)
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I thought i was getting somewhere with Ewan, I knew there was another layer.
If only I could see myself as others see me.
If I was in a room of millionaires a good many would have taken over dads business, some would have been management buy out or share option lucky. Not many would have started from scratch, and of those that did most would have had a twenty year slogg and lots of luck.
Entrepreuners start businesses, and they don't always succeed, the thing is to keep trying. Making money , or holding on to it or increasing it once you've made it is a different subject. This is where the quiet man in the room comes in fjm a squirel hides his nuts and doesn't tell anyone where they are, but is also always keen to find the source of others hoardes.
Don't let people like this put you down fjm.(and thanks for the opp to post on biz again ;D)
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Yes you have made your point ! Now scuttle off ::)
Thats not nice Jonah ::)
Not meant to sound tight , sorry Ewan was only kidding :P
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Good that we are all in agreeance for a change.
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Right, now we've got that one sorted, we've got DJW back so where's matt? ???
Tony
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Well,he's on the diy site,maybe he's keeping a low profile cause POMPEY won the cup ;D
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Well it's my contention that matb is now j demarco. Diy Matt I haven't spotted, but if you remember he was looking forward to the football final and plotting to get into the background shotsof east enders via a terrace pal who thinks up mad ideas for the programme.
He always starts his posts with - aye- so keep your eyes peeled.
The forum is a bit cyclical (I mean if you leave aside the zoo animals, animosity, and argueing side) and can become tiresome with the repetitions.More so I would have thought if you hang on to this pride of the working man notion that some of these fallers had.
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Well it's my contention that matb is now j demarco. Diy Matt I haven't spotted, but if you remember he was looking forward to the football final and plotting to get into the background shotsof east enders via a terrace pal who thinks up mad ideas for the programme.
He always starts his posts with - aye- so keep your eyes peeled.
The forum is a bit cyclical (I mean if you leave aside the zoo animals, animosity, and argueing side) and can become tiresome with the repetitions.More so I would have thought if you hang on to this pride of the working man notion that some of these fallers had.
aye, you got a point there
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People don`t leave this site,some only look from a distance and others come back under a new name.
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I know, a cunning plan.....
I'm about to be reincarnated and one of my first posts will be to ask for a link to the diy site.
he's not that stupid he'll never fall for that, well just you watch.
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I know, a cunning plan.....
(http://www.blakeneymanor.com/images/blackadder/baldrick.jpg)
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The dream lives on. He's stated quite clearly who he is. I suspect he was sick of us and needed a break.
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im back for a while, cheers for thinking of me Tony :) :)
i got cheesed off with silly little snidey posts from " big shots" who are the biggest earners in the area, earn thousands per week, YET then go on a let slip they still live at home with mummy ::) ::)
i also went to clean a house and the hubby has returned from iraq a few weeks before and he got home and had a accident and died, left a son ( 1 year younger than my daughter ) and a daughter who was 8 months older than my little girl, i thought, why do i spend my time on here reading drivel from the same billy bullpoo liars putting down decent working folks like myself, when i could be speding time with the family, it made me think a little on my life, its summer, get out and enjoy it
oh and while im on a role, lukes post about his pole shimmering in the sun and giving off pretty patterns, i wondered what i was doing on here, i said it than, no offence, but get out have a drink, meet girls etc etc etc
ive had a bit of a bad 2 weeks, my RO seems to have given up, its only 7 months old :(, good job i have mates who i can borrow 1 days water and then some DI resin, im ordering a new RO tonight though, its not the money, its just its a pain in the rear
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Well,he's on the diy site,maybe he's keeping a low profile cause POMPEY won the cup ;D
we wuz robbed, still a good day out though
oh and do pompey really only have 1 song ? ? ? ?
I know, a cunning plan.....
I'm about to be reincarnated and one of my first posts will be to ask for a link to the diy site.
he's not that stupid he'll never fall for that, well just you watch.
on a serious note, no i wouldnt have seen it, as i was ahving a break
it was only because some1 local who helped me out with some DI resin mentioned this post
the mystery is history , i was having a bit of a break from here, i was still around on the DIY site
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Welcome back dude, yeah, life is full of ups & downs matey. As for the content of threads on here just read the ones that interest you, you know which ones are real ;) & don't respond to nonesense (i know it's hard sometimes).
Anyway, keep having a look in & i hope you get back to regular poster status soon. 8)
Regards
Tony
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Nice to see you back Matt ;)
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plotting to get into the background shotsof east enders via a terrace pal who thinks up mad ideas for the programme.
did you see the window cleaner in eastenders, well we saw his van. the said episode i ws only half watching it, did we see the window cleaner ? ? ? ?
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Welcome back dude, yeah, life is full of ups & downs matey. As for the content of threads on here just read the ones that interest you, you know which ones are real ;) & don't respond to nonesense (i know it's hard sometimes).
Anyway, keep having a look in & i hope you get back to regular poster status soon. 8)
Regards
Tony
Nice to see you back Matt ;)
thanks guys :)
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While you were gone I invented the pole hose tidy. Essentially this is a hook that you can put looped pole hose on so that it doesn't drag on the floor.
The benefits are that you can work more efficiently without tripping or standing on your hose, and as the main wear factor in any pole is this dirty hose getting grit into the inner sections, this means poles remain cleaner and last longer.
The other thing you missed was the big debate about a new mod. One of the mods (the one who keeps stepping down aka david davies) asked for names to take his place.
My invention was overlooked, and the fools found who might fill the vacancy more interesting.(shiner)