Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jouk45 on June 19, 2008, 10:00:36 pm
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i was thinking today about the wear and tear on our arm bones and joints, if we where to count every moving action we made, ad that up in a year, then look at it in 10 years time, now that is a lot of wear and tear on the bone joint, i can see a lot of shoulder joint operations in the near future, not trying to put anyone of, but iv had a few problems, and i have been going at it 7 years :'(
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im 45 now being going 3 years wfp knee and shoulders, elbows all showing signs of wear and tear , going on monday for mri scan on knees
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i have had to get treatment on my right shoulder, it lasts about a year or so then comes back, and it is realy painful, believe it or not my doctor prescribed ibuprpen :o he said any sign of pain stop work for a few days, as those tablets are inflamitorys, they do work,
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i even thought that carbon poles would reduce this as the are much lighter, but thinking about it, you still have to make the same movements while using the pole,
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What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ? :-\
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What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ? :-\
30 if hes any good ;D
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At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it :)
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My elbow has been giving me grief again, My daughter is a physio and gave me a support for it, that certainly helps. This support is not elasticated, it's a kind of pad that looks like a mini weight lifting belt that fastens with Velcro, you place the widest part over the painful area.
I also have pain just below the shoulder blades, this goes when I have a day off, or over the weekend.
She recommended the same tablets as Jouks doctor.
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At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it :)
I've got floating cartilage or something in my elbow from weight training. Best way to knacker your joints I reckon. Seen a chaps knee shoot accross the room when deadlifting, well 3 inches anyway. :o
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cant remember the name of this treatment i got, it was a little mic looking thing with ultra sound i think, sound vibrates through to the muscles and gives them a good shaking, :o its the only way they heal fast,
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great thread this not ;D after 15 years in the infantry my knees are shot to bits any way and now i find out my elbows will go as well :'( on a serious note the army prescribe nothing but ibrubrofen doesnt stop the damage just helps the symptoms
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How do you know your elbows will go aswell.
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What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ? :-\
30 if hes any good ;D
Or she ;)
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At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it :)
But you have to take it long term, yes it does work after 6 weeks.
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How do you know your elbows will go aswell.
well elbow or shoulders ;)not really worried to be honest
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just think of all the movements you do trad, your knees especially and your wrists.. i'd say your doing more movement trad then wfp
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For any pains, buy your self a TENS unit, you can wear this during the day.
arthritis
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fibromyalgia
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just think of all the movements you do trad, your knees especially and your wrists.. i'd say your doing more movement trad then wfp
dont think its movement that does the damage its weight and movement and climbing a ladder and twirling a squeegie isnt heavey. but heaving a pole up and down all day is what can cause damage
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For any muscle pains, buy your self a TENS unit, you can wear this during the day.
jeff that would help the pain, but it wont cure it, my doctor said if i dont rest for 2 weeks with the medication, i would do a lot worse damage, that was a good few months back that happened to me, and it did get better,
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ibuprpen only helps the pain and doesn't cure the problem ;D ;D ;D
I don't like taking tablets, but a TENS unit can be kept in the gove box and put into action if you get a pain at work and you may be miles away from a shop so no tablets until you get to the nearest shop.
Have a read about a TENS Unit.
h ttp://arthritis.about.com/od/assistivedevicesgadgets/g/tensunit.htm (close the http bit)
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jeff the tablets do cure it, thats what i thought, with rest, and taking them regular, they bring down the swelling, aparantly thats what cause the pain, mind you it was 400mg prescribed, jeff i could have done with that tens unit, if it ever happens again i would get one
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I know this might sound silly but honest try it!
In the morning before you start your first job do a good 5-6minutes warm ups,rotate your wrists to the left 10 times to the right 10 times up and down 10 times.
Then repeat this with your ankles and bend and stretch your knees,trust me I do it every day and it helps I also suffer from Carpel Tunnell Syndrom which dont help and for that on my really bad days I wear special wrist supports they have like a metal splint in it to keep my wrists from straining too much.
I got them from the hospital but you can buy something very similar at the chemist there about £10.00 a pair and worth it. Im only 30 and had this for 10 years so age doesnt matter. ;D
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how about a video of you showing us how to do it shell ;D
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At one time i weight trained 4 times a week. The best thing for joints is 2 table spoons of cod liver oil a day if you can stomach it :)
But you have to take it long term, yes it does work after 6 weeks.
It's no big hardship taking it every day Jeff, if it cuts out the pain in the long term ;)
I'm just trying to advise some of the youngsters on here
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Glucosamine is in tablet form used by athletes and very active people for replenishing normal wear and tear on worn cartrilidges, joints and tennons as an additional food supplement :)
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Its not just window cleaners that get problems. A friend of mine who is a mechanic is crippled with his back from all the bending. He says you rarely see an old mechanic.
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Its not just window cleaners that get problems. A friend of mine who is a mechanic is crippled with his back from all the bending. He says you rarely see an old mechanic.
That is so true !
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how about a video of you showing us how to do it shell ;D
I think if I was to do a video of it I would only be adding wear and tear to your joints as you would be rolling around the floor laughing your back side off LOL.
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Nursing a sore wrist more like ;)
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What is the average age of a trad cleaner before he/she has to retire ? :-\
30 if hes any good ;D
several lads round here in there fiftys,one chap 63 and another after winding down has just finished at 75
Yeah trad definitely does not wear on your body the way WFP does.
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i am 53 & been window cleaning for years in all weathers with both trad & wfp,i have to take tramadol twice daily co-codamol & codydramol for trouble with my joints & spine so i get my son to do any work i cant handle problem sorted
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i think trad is better on your body.
as long as you dont fall off the ladder.
like i did . ???
3 pins and a disabled foot .
but if you dont fall .trad all the way.
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i know i've got an idea.... im won over im going back trad im just not going to fall off the ladder.
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The rotator cuff is an extremly complex joint, i have been bodybuilding for over 20 years and suffered a shoulder impingement about 4-5 years ago, it came on very slowly to the point i had to stop completely.
I had a cortisone shot which cured the sharp pain i was getting but the problem is still there, but does not bother me unless i train out of a certain area, ie flyes, pec dec etc. i. I started wc 18 months ago and its ok but i think we all need more dietry fat in our diets especially from red meat and also eat a couple whole eggs a day and just generally eat a good healthy diet. The fats for lubricating the joints.
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pacing yourself is a good idea if you can afford to do it!
jouk, I used to get bad sharp pains in my shoulders... I nearly dropped my ladders once through it when going "up & over" an outhouse.
several people on here recommended arnica flower capsules, so I started taking them along with glucosamine and cod liver oil.
the pain DISAPPEARED WITHIN A WEEK and hasn't returned a year later!!
seriously, get some from holland & barrett or cheaper online at zipvit
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Lying toad! all you ever do is try and bait me into sharing my secrets.To be able to think on your feet and cope with pressure is the most marvelous feeling in the world.
And anyway you're to lazy to have any joint problems.
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pacing yourself is a good idea if you can afford to do it!
jouk, I used to get bad sharp pains in my shoulders... I nearly dropped my ladders once through it when going "up & over" an outhouse.
several people on here recommended arnica flower capsules, so I started taking them along with glucosamine and cod liver oil.
the pain DISAPPEARED WITHIN A WEEK and hasn't returned a year later!!
seriously, get some from holland & barrett or cheaper online at zipvit
never thought of cod liver oil, will give that a try, thanks for that idea dave
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I was laid up for over 5 weeks through agony in my shoulder from working with the washer and squeegee.
It was so bad that I was in agony when sat perfectly still, and no amount of painkillers helped much. :o
Couldn't get much sleep either.
One of the most painful experiences of my life, and what prompted me to turn to wfp.
Just waiting for the onset of wfp injuries now... ;D
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Yesterday i banged my elbow and i have been in real pain with it since,so i have been to the a&e today and i had it x-rayed and found i have spurs sticking out of my elbow and the bang has inflamed it,so i asked how i got the spurs and the nurse recons wear and tear through my occupation :-[
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I've got lots of problems with my elbows and between my shoulder blades. I am fairly sure my problems are to do with the repetitive nature of wfp. I switch left to right handed and change my grip, but it's the back/forward motion that has caused my problems. I do this 3 to 4 days per week and am an otherwise fit 44 year old, but I am now wondering how long I can sustain this level of abuse. ???
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The rotator cuff is an extremly complex joint, i have been bodybuilding for over 20 years and suffered a shoulder impingement about 4-5 years ago, it came on very slowly to the point i had to stop completely.
I had a cortisone shot which cured the sharp pain i was getting but the problem is still there, but does not bother me unless i train out of a certain area, ie flyes, pec dec etc. i. I started wc 18 months ago and its ok but i think we all need more dietry fat in our diets especially from red meat and also eat a couple whole eggs a day and just generally eat a good healthy diet. The fats for lubricating the joints.
I'm sorry but red meat eggs and loads of fat, isn't a healthy diet and certainly wont protect your joints. One of my customers recommended Chrondoitin and glucosamine tablets for joint problems. He swore by them. I was sceptical but after taking them for a month all my aches and pains disappeared. I've been on them ever since (4 years) because they continue to protect and rejuvinate. I buy them in bulk from Holland and Barret when they are in their half price sale.