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Title: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 18, 2008, 11:30:18 pm
5 minutes ago i was offered a well paid job for a one off clean but it must be done from ladders these would need to be 3 tier would you go for it or dont bother .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: kris martin on June 18, 2008, 11:39:00 pm
i have 1 job done with 3 tier ladder that i havnt converted to wfp yet, i get footed on every window though and there are 22 huge long windows.. i would just be extra carefull..
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: windowwashers on June 19, 2008, 01:36:06 am
5 minutes ago i was offered a well paid job for a one off clean but it must be done from ladders these would need to be 3 tier would you go for it or dont bother .
First I would ask why can it not be done wfp, is there anywhere to tie the ladder off?.
if not to then I personally would walk away.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: Dean Aspects on June 19, 2008, 05:50:27 am
Take all necesary precautions then you will be ok
What height is it? and why cant it be done wfp as that obviously would be the safest option

Dean
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 19, 2008, 06:52:34 am
I have triples , and I feel safe on them ( they have flat rubber feet )  Get somone to foot them for you if you can .  8)
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 19, 2008, 07:09:08 am

What height is it? and why cant it be done wfp as that obviously would be the safest option

Dean
i wolud say height would be around 30 ft , reason it cant be done wfp is that the building as just been painted and theres paint splashes all over the glass which are going to need a scraper .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on June 19, 2008, 08:31:23 am
I have a 30ft set of point ladders that I would use footed and if they didn't reach then tough, you'd have to use a cherry picker.  9 meters is the max you can go to on a ladder with it being footed.

Simon.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 19, 2008, 10:11:51 pm
ive turned the job down even at a good price , i went wfp to be safe on the ground its a shame cause ive just turned down £1100 but i value my life more than that .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 19, 2008, 10:16:31 pm
ive turned the job down even at a good price , i went wfp to be safe on the ground its a shame cause ive just turned down £1100 but i value my life more than that .
For £1100 you can hit me over the head with a brick !  Im only 30 mins away Dave , I can foot your ladders for £550 ?
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 19, 2008, 10:23:46 pm
Ok I will go up the ladders , and you can footem ! Will give you £10 for your trouble , lol .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 19, 2008, 10:45:28 pm
im going to give them your number mate , they accepted my price of £1100 it wasnt explained or pointed out that paint splasheswould be all over the glass therefor the price should be higher .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 19, 2008, 10:50:36 pm
Ok we will split it  ;D
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: cbcs on June 19, 2008, 11:40:57 pm
I'll help if needed  ;)

SJM - you got my number.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 20, 2008, 06:29:14 am
I'll help if needed  ;)

SJM - you got my number.
Chris I am sorry but I called to foot the ladders first !  If you want in on the deal you are going to have to go up the ladders , with Dave supervising  ;D
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: LWC on June 20, 2008, 07:06:17 am
i do one every 3 months inside pains and very high, just get someone to foot you and dont over stretch! simple, its like doing windows on first floor, just keep thinking like that!

£1100 mate! thats no laughing matter! thats a proper job.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 20, 2008, 07:20:09 am
i do one every 3 months inside pains and very high, just get someone to foot you and dont over stretch! simple, its like doing windows on first floor, just keep thinking like that!

£1100 mate! thats no laughing matter! thats a proper job.
split 3 ways ?  Not worth getting out of bed for that !  :P
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 20, 2008, 08:47:44 am
i do one every 3 months inside pains and very high, just get someone to foot you and dont over stretch! simple, its like doing windows on first floor, just keep thinking like that!

£1100 mate! thats no laughing matter! thats a proper job.
its a really big job i reckoned it would take 3 to 4 days with wfp , but since i gave my quote a couple of months ago things have change , painters have been and painted all the outside render and theres splashes all over the glass which will now mean going off ladders with a scraper , taking maybe 2 days longer so the good price i put in now dont seem that good anymore .       jonah im going to pass your number on to the project  manager today , i will see if im allowed to take some photos .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 20, 2008, 08:49:20 am
i do one every 3 months inside pains and very high, just get someone to foot you and dont over stretch! simple, its like doing windows on first floor, just keep thinking like that!

£1100 mate! thats no laughing matter! thats a proper job.
its a really big job i reckoned it would take 3 to 4 days with wfp , but since i gave my quote a couple of months ago things have change , painters have been and painted all the outside render and theres splashes all over the glass which will now mean going off ladders with a scraper , taking maybe 2 days longer so the good price i put in now dont seem that good anymore .       jonah im going to pass your number on to the project  manager today , i will see if im allowed to take some photos .
Dave give me a ring after 9;30 please  ;D
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: windowwashers on June 20, 2008, 08:52:01 am
i do one every 3 months inside pains and very high, just get someone to foot you and dont over stretch! simple, its like doing windows on first floor, just keep thinking like that!

£1100 mate! thats no laughing matter! thats a proper job.
its a really big job i reckoned it would take 3 to 4 days with wfp , but since i gave my quote a couple of months ago things have change , painters have been and painted all the outside render and theres splashes all over the glass which will now mean going off ladders with a scraper , taking maybe 2 days longer so the good price i put in now dont seem that good anymore .       jonah im going to pass your number on to the project  manager today , i will see if im allowed to take some photos .
Why dont you reprice the job Dave, get jonah in as a sub pay him the £550 for the ladder work.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 20, 2008, 04:20:36 pm
thats what im thinking of doing ian re-pricing  ive got a appointment with the project manager on tuesday afternoon so will see what happens then . jonah i will call you tomorrow around 6.30 pm mate .
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 20, 2008, 09:00:26 pm
thats what im thinking of doing ian re-pricing  ive got a appointment with the project manager on tuesday afternoon so will see what happens then . jonah i will call you tomorrow around 6.30 pm mate .
ok Mate  ;)
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: George P on June 21, 2008, 08:25:05 pm
we would use top stabillizers and someone footing if using ladders, but where possible we would get in acherry picker and use that

george
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: mogy on June 21, 2008, 09:01:39 pm
Silly question maybe ....but Ive never had a customer ask me to remove paint off glass  !, do customers expect  this in a normal clean ?
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: windowwashers on June 21, 2008, 09:04:41 pm
Silly question maybe ....but Ive never had a customer ask me to remove paint off glass  !, do customers expect  this in a normal clean ?
What they except and what they get is different, Paint removal I charge extra for quite a lot extra more.
if there is an odd blob that takes more time for us to clean the windows if left I will remove it free because I am nice like that.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: philipg on June 23, 2008, 12:17:09 am
If i cant reach them off my four rung little giant then i never bother with the job, When i was younger i used to to have a 28ft double, But now every gets done from the little giant..Anything above this can get poled.As i am now to old and too wise to go higher unless someone is footing me.
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: d s windowcleaning on June 24, 2008, 08:03:18 pm
re priced today , not for window cleaning but for paint removal . the window cleaning contract is mine but i wasnt happy with the paint all over the glass .      the job is now looking like a good earner , if i get the removal on top this would be even better ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, see you soon jonah im off to leeds / bradford airport soon will be in touch mate . ;D
Title: Re: 3 tier ladders
Post by: sjm on June 24, 2008, 09:35:18 pm
re priced today , not for window cleaning but for paint removal . the window cleaning contract is mine but i wasnt happy with the paint all over the glass .      the job is now looking like a good earner , if i get the removal on top this would be even better ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, see you soon jonah im off to leeds / bradford airport soon will be in touch mate . ;D
Enjoy Dave , you deserve a well earned break  ;D