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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: RPCCS on June 15, 2008, 02:30:43 pm

Title: leasing
Post by: RPCCS on June 15, 2008, 02:30:43 pm
Can you get used vehicles to lease,as I wouldn't want brand new, the punters would just refuse to pay any increase saying I was making too much if I can afford a brand new car? What's the rule if it got scratched or dented from ladders or roof rails, would I have to pay for that at the end of the lease?
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: David Slater on June 15, 2008, 02:41:35 pm
Can you get used vehicles to lease,as I wouldn't want brand new, the punters would just refuse to pay any increase saying I was making too much if I can afford a brand new car? What's the rule if it got scratched or dented from ladders or roof rails, would I have to pay for that at the end of the lease?

Yes.

Any damage beyond 'fair wear and tear' would have to put right or you need pay the equivalent amount to fix it at the end of the lease period. Same applies for excess mileage.

Normal conditions of a lease agreement usually say it must be serviced in accordance with the manufacturers spec - this means you'll have to take it back to the main dealer for servicing.

Can work out pretty expensive if you dont check it out fully before signing up.

Title: Re: leasing
Post by: RPCCS on June 15, 2008, 02:45:57 pm
Can you get used vehicles to lease,as I wouldn't want brand new, the punters would just refuse to pay any increase saying I was making too much if I can afford a brand new car? What's the rule if it got scratched or dented from ladders or roof rails, would I have to pay for that at the end of the lease?

Yes.

Any damage beyond 'fair wear and tear' would have to put right or you need pay the equivalent amount to fix it at the end of the lease period. Same applies for excess mileage.

Normal conditions of a lease agreement usually say it must be serviced in accordance with the manufacturers spec - this means you'll have to take it back to the main dealer for servicing.

Can work out pretty expensive if you dont check it out fully before signing up.


some leases include all servicing costs though Dave
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: David Slater on June 15, 2008, 02:53:34 pm
Can you get used vehicles to lease,as I wouldn't want brand new, the punters would just refuse to pay any increase saying I was making too much if I can afford a brand new car? What's the rule if it got scratched or dented from ladders or roof rails, would I have to pay for that at the end of the lease?

Yes.

Any damage beyond 'fair wear and tear' would have to put right or you need pay the equivalent amount to fix it at the end of the lease period. Same applies for excess mileage.

Normal conditions of a lease agreement usually say it must be serviced in accordance with the manufacturers spec - this means you'll have to take it back to the main dealer for servicing.

Can work out pretty expensive if you dont check it out fully before signing up.


some leases include all servicing costs though Dave

Very true. Worth checking the lease carefully to see what is/isnt included.

You can lease in a variety of ways. Theres really is no hard and fast rule....apart from damage and excess mileage!
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: windowwashers on June 15, 2008, 04:14:41 pm
RPWC,

do not let customers dictate what van you use, I had a very comments when I changed to wfp (not saying you are just changing just making a point), my reply was simple:

I have to have this to give you the reliable service I offer an old van would let me down (van engine ceased lol) your price will not increase because I have a new(ish) van but for the next 2 months I will be cleaning your frames free (worded a treat for me)

I want 3 new vans and will get them most people will feel secure in the fact I take pride in cleaning there windows if anyone says anything I will just speak to them (you will always get a couple of jealous people and to me they are replaceable.


Ian
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: steve m on June 15, 2008, 06:36:05 pm
leasing deals come in varying options, from the basic no frills van only to all singing all dancing fully inclusive packages. As expected you will pay the extra for it.
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: NWH on June 15, 2008, 07:46:51 pm
RPWC,

do not let customers dictate what van you use, I had a very comments when I changed to wfp (not saying you are just changing just making a point), my reply was simple:

I have to have this to give you the reliable service I offer an old van would let me down (van engine ceased lol) your price will not increase because I have a new(ish) van but for the next 2 months I will be cleaning your frames free (worded a treat for me)

I want 3 new vans and will get them most people will feel secure in the fact I take pride in cleaning there windows if anyone says anything I will just speak to them (you will always get a couple of jealous people and to me they are replaceable.


Ian
If i was to turn up in a brand new M3 or Audi etc you might expect the odd raised eyebrow but most of my customers with these cars couldn`t give a monkeys,at the end of the day it`s a van to them new or old.I understand what your saying but why drive around in an old van cos your worried about what they`ll think,you might get the odd remark but losing work i don`t think so.
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: RPCCS on June 16, 2008, 10:39:08 pm
The point I'm trying to make fellers is that a number of years ago I increased prices  the month before I changed my car,next time round some were saying" oh so thats why the prices have gone up, we're having to pay for your new car". other comments were" I'll pay the increase this time but, I'm not paying more money just for you to have a newer car" He said with a brand new company Jag in his garage, Tw*t. Is it only new cars and vans that are leased or do the companies do used stuff too say, up to 3-4 years old?
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: TennetClean on June 16, 2008, 10:45:57 pm
"I'll pay the increase this time but, I'm not paying more money just for you to have a newer car"

What an absolutely idiotic comment to make!

Customers like that need to be dropped (and drop-kicked!)

People annoy me sometimes, extremely.  There's a guy near us who does some landscape gardening work, and he is very good, though not cheap.  I have had him do some work for me on occasion.

Anyway, a few months ago he pulled up in a new car, an alpha romeo spider I think.  I thought "good for you fella!" but I bet a fair few of his customers out of jealousy etc didnt like it.

Its the british way to criticise success, but its still sad.
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: WCE on June 16, 2008, 10:47:12 pm
There are some companies that lease older stuff. Usually they are targeting the "non status" market. Try googling non status leasing.
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: RPCCS on June 16, 2008, 11:16:43 pm
"I'll pay the increase this time but, I'm not paying more money just for you to have a newer car"

What an absolutely idiotic comment to make!

Customers like that need to be dropped (and drop-kicked!)

People annoy me sometimes, extremely.  There's a guy near us who does some landscape gardening work, and he is very good, though not cheap.  I have had him do some work for me on occasion.

Anyway, a few months ago he pulled up in a new car, an alpha romeo spider I think.  I thought "good for you fella!" but I bet a fair few of his customers out of jealousy etc didnt like it.

Its the british way to criticise success, but its still sad.
I did , not the 2nd bit though, I said to him I work vloody hard for my living,in all weather,just to try and provide a reliable service, so why shouldn't I have a half decent vehicle to drive to work. I decide if I want to increase prices not you.
Title: Re: leasing
Post by: steve m on June 17, 2008, 07:37:11 am
just tell em that the new van is cheaper to run with the newer engine and the price increase is to cope with the fuel hike