Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: AuRavelling79 on June 11, 2008, 01:51:40 pm
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I'd like to nominate The Shiner as moderator please.
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good shout!! i don't know the guy but he talks sense and seems quite humble. good candidate there i think ;)
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I agree. Good man for the job
Arthur
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ill third that he has got my vote
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Ive got absolutely no objection to THe Shiner becoming the new mod
But given the reasons Trevor put forward for stepping down and Im sure Tosh before him would it not be better to replace Trevor with 2 or 3 new Mods
Al
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yes maybe. Shiner, would make a good 1 of those.
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Mark,
Your forgetting the other top candidates namely Tennent, Discount & Squeaky.
On second thoughts The Shiner has my vote ;D
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I already reccommended him a couple of weeks back.
Big thumbs up from me
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Mark,
Your forgetting the other top candidates namely Tennent, Discount & Squeaky.
On second thoughts The Shiner has my vote ;D
heehee, i was gonna put tennet and discount down for it as well. Squeaky would be good too as none of those 3 would take any prisoners and would i suspect, enjoy cracking the whip when needed.
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Dave,
Would you not appreciate 2 or 3 new mods to take the load off!
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Alistair
It isnt too bad in my section, I just delete what gets out of hand.
At times we have a few trouble makers and they soon get fed up when i keep deleting there posts.
I keep one eye on the window cleaning section and only interfere when i have to.
Dave
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SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER SHINER ETC
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I'd personally like to see shiner as a fellow mod, thumbs up from me ;)
I've been away for a while and haven't been able to do much in the way of moderating, so it is nice to know Dave is keeping a weather eye on things.
And I've been so busy since getting back I've had hardly any time to to do much more than scan a couple of threads :-\
Ian
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I'd like to nominate The Shiner as moderator please.
I would also nominate The shiner, top guy, honest and fair.
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shiner it is then yeah? ;D ;D ;D
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The Shiner is staying :-X on his election ;D
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The Shiner (Paul) get's it from me; my vote that is.
I've met him in real life at the NEC Cleaning Show (or rather a pub close to the NEC), he's a big lively character.
My only reservation about the guy is that he's tee-total. Why? Is he a secret maniac and has to remain stone-cold sober otherwise he'll be out raping and pillaging?
But apart from that, he'd make a top mod.
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Start as you mean to continue, take a firm line and ban everyone!
That'll teach 'em.
Then, ban 'em again!
i'll do it ;D
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The Shiner (Paul) get's it from me; my vote that is.
I've met him in real life at the NEC Cleaning Show (or rather a pub close to the NEC), he's a big lively character.
My only reservation about the guy is that he's tee-total. Why? Is he a secret maniac and has to remain stone-cold sober otherwise he'll be out raping and pillaging?
But apart from that, he'd make a top mod.
He told me there was a cross dressing Geordie around and he wanted to stay sober ;D I have met him a few times, and he was also who I had in mind, Top guy and level headed.
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The Shiner (Paul) get's it from me; my vote that is.
I've met him in real life at the NEC Cleaning Show (or rather a pub close to the NEC), he's a big lively character.
My only reservation about the guy is that he's tee-total. Why? Is he a secret maniac and has to remain stone-cold sober otherwise he'll be out raping and pillaging?
But apart from that, he'd make a top mod.
Well the truth of it is that I've stayed stone cold sober since the mid 80s because I never learned how to moderate the stuff so I felt it was better to stop completely. Don't know about raping and pillaging while drunk though. More like vomiting, falling over. and dishing out verbal abuse ;D .
The funny thing is that I don't drink, don't smoke, and don't eat meat or fish. I find it hard to believe but I like life better this way.
Mind you, there may be something in what you say as Adolf Hitler was a teetotal, non-smoking vegetarian too.
Still want me as a mod LOL?
As far as modding goes I'm pretty tolerant and perhaps would let too much go. There is one area which is my achilles heel and I do feel a bit intolerant if I sense even a mild attempt at someone promoting a particular belief system. Sometimes I see it done subtly in ways that most people wouldn't be aware of because I know the terminology that is used and it doesn't seem to have altered much over the years. Several times recently I've typed out a post then decided to delete it. Nothing nasty you understand - just something jokey about me dancing around fires in the middle of the night practicing satanic rituals (I don't BTW ;D ) . However, perhaps being a mod would help me to become an even more tolerant person. If I were to do it, it would very much be a bit part due to time constraints. I question whether I would have the time to do it properly but am prepared to have a go. I am away on holiday next week though so I wouldn't be doing much for a while.
Mind you, I may have to cancel. I'm meant to be visiting Spain and my friend emailed me today to say he can't get any diesel for the two hour drive to collect me from Alicante airport. It doesn't sound good does it? I imagine public transport is stuffed too out there.
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Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system - you understand it, yet don't (IMO) over-react or under react to it.
You seem very even-handed when the belief system comes up in topics.
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Under one of my guises and quite a while back now i happened to mention that I have the luck of the devil, which i do, and I was sent to coventry.
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Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system - you understand it, yet don't (IMO) over-react or under react to it.
You seem very even-handed when the belief system comes up in topics.
I sense a strangely biased view influencing this promotion.
I could understand if your reasons were based on how many windowcleaners respected him due to past business dealings, or because he knows 750 people on here personally as friends, but what's going on? Are we surrounded by Freemasons or something?
"Quite frankly" as Alan Sugar would say, "You just blew it as far as I'm concerned".
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Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system - you understand it, yet don't (IMO) over-react or under react to it.
You seem very even-handed when the belief system comes up in topics.
I sense a strangely biased view influencing this promotion.
I could understand if your reasons were based on how many windowcleaners respected him due to past business dealings, or because he knows 750 people on here personally as friends, but what's going on? Are we surrounded by Freemasons or something?
"Quite frankly" as Alan Sugar would say, "You just blew it as far as I'm concerned".
heeheehee.... i was wondering same thing. ??? Although i still like shiner as a mod.
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Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system - you understand it, yet don't (IMO) over-react or under react to it.
You seem very even-handed when the belief system comes up in topics.
I sense a strangely biased view influencing this promotion.
I could understand if your reasons were based on how many windowcleaners respected him due to past business dealings, or because he knows 750 people on here personally as friends, but what's going on? Are we surrounded by Freemasons or something?
"Quite frankly" as Alan Sugar would say, "You just blew it as far as I'm concerned".
Could you please elaborate as to what you mean by a "biased view influencing this promotion"? There are several possible ways of understanding that statement and I was wondering which way you meant it.
Freemasonery eh? I've been called many things in my life (sometimes deservedly so ;D ) but never a Freemason. Mind you, although not a mason myself, I don't believe freemasonry is all bad - not as I understand it anyway. They have good charitable aims. Where I dislike it is when one of its members breaks the law and gets away with it due to his/her connections. The work area is pretty dubious too where perhaps someone may secure a contract due to insider info supplied by a fellow mason. As for likening stuff on this forum to freemasonry, I just don't get it. It's not as if I have applied for a 50 grand a year job and am seeking personal gain.
Now where's Mike so that I can demonstrate my funny handshake?
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Under one of my guises and quite a while back now i happened to mention that I have the luck of the devil, which i do, and I was sent to coventry.
Glad to see somone else rising early in the morning ;)
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"Could you please elaborate as to what you mean by a "biased view influencing this promotion"? There are several possible ways of understanding that statement and I was wondering which way you meant it."
"Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system"
Seems a very obscure reason to me! My comparing it to the freemasons was no big deal, there's no need for a definition of their activities, mate. We just know that there is a measure of 'mystery' to their activities. (I have worked with a few, and they would agree).
You don't need to get defensive or 'get it'. Others will.......or won't ;)
Does it really matter?
I would have thought Mike had a clearer criteria of who would fit the role than someone simply being tolerant of a minority belief system. Just my opinion of course, and probably a minority one at that!
In the 70s I believed in re-incarnation and that our previous existence was in Atlantis beneath the sea and Stonehenge and lines of force had something to do with the stars which are now misplaced. A bit confused...
However, I am now very tolerant of anyone who likes Jimi Hendrix.....oh and Led Zeppelin!
Does this make me a good candidate? ;D
Mind you, if you want the role Shiner go for it mate! I don't think there'll be much competition
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I think PJ would also make a very good mod
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"Could you please elaborate as to what you mean by a "biased view influencing this promotion"? There are several possible ways of understanding that statement and I was wondering which way you meant it."
"Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system"
Seems a very obscure reason to me! My comparing it to the freemasons was no big deal, there's no need for a definition of their activities, mate. We just know that there is a measure of 'mystery' to their activities. (I have worked with a few, and they would agree).
You don't need to get defensive or 'get it'. Others will.......or won't ;)
Does it really matter?
I would have thought Mike had a clearer criteria of who would fit the role than someone simply being tolerant of a minority belief system. Just my opinion of course, and probably a minority one at that!
In the 70s I believed in re-incarnation and that our previous existence was in Atlantis beneath the sea and Stonehenge and lines of force had something to do with the stars which are now misplaced. A bit confused...
However, I am now very tolerant of anyone who likes Jimi Hendrix.....oh and Led Zeppelin!
Does this make me a good candidate? ;D
Mind you, if you want the role Shiner go for it mate! I don't think there'll be much competition
First of all Malc stated "ONE OF THE reasons" rather than that being a main reason. Also, I don't know how you (incorrectly) deduced that I was being defensive. I've nothing to defend. I reckon I'm a far more open book than most on here. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a damn if I end up moderating on here or not.
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"Could you please elaborate as to what you mean by a "biased view influencing this promotion"? There are several possible ways of understanding that statement and I was wondering which way you meant it."
"Shiner - one of the reasons I put you forward is your background with a particular belief system"
Seems a very obscure reason to me! My comparing it to the freemasons was no big deal, there's no need for a definition of their activities, mate. We just know that there is a measure of 'mystery' to their activities. (I have worked with a few, and they would agree).
You don't need to get defensive or 'get it'. Others will.......or won't ;)
Does it really matter?
I would have thought Mike had a clearer criteria of who would fit the role than someone simply being tolerant of a minority belief system. Just my opinion of course, and probably a minority one at that!
In the 70s I believed in re-incarnation and that our previous existence was in Atlantis beneath the sea and Stonehenge and lines of force had something to do with the stars which are now misplaced. A bit confused...
However, I am now very tolerant of anyone who likes Jimi Hendrix.....oh and Led Zeppelin!
Does this make me a good candidate? ;D
Mind you, if you want the role Shiner go for it mate! I don't think there'll be much competition
First of all Malc stated "ONE OF THE reasons" rather than that being a main reason. Also, I don't know how you (incorrectly) deduced that I was being defensive. I've nothing to defend. I reckon I'm a far more open book than most on here. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a damn if I end up moderating on here or not.
I think it might help to give a damn actually. I'll see if I have one I can lend you...
.... nah, sorry, I'm right out of damns. :
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Sorry Shiner, not meaning to take a pop at you personally, I just didn't think the reason Malc chose to state was a valid one, a relevant one, or for that matter a wise one.
It's ok though, it was only a passing thought. I'll probably think differently after my mackerel sandwich and cuppa. ;)
I.... nah, sorry, I'm right out of damns. :
Have you been blowing them up again...naughty?
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Cant we have someone whos a Jehovah Witness?
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Cant we have someone whos a Jehovah Witness?
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Curios why?
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I reckon over 50 % of window cleaners are JW,
so Why ? proportional representation ?????????
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I am a Jehovah's Witness, rarely make mention of it on this site though. I view my window cleaning as a support for my preaching, all though window cleaning is very important to me as well. I know of a few others on the site that are as well.
Just wondered what Matt B's reasons were out of curiosity. I wonder if any of the mods are JWs. Nothing fishy.
Simon.
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I dont like to mix my beliefs in with a Window Cleaning forum, but so am I!!!! I too clean to support my preaching. And there are quite alot of us on here, I have never mentioned it before on this site, but I know that many of the members on lots of the WC forums are JW's. Luke
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I am not, not that it matters I am Cof E and only enter church for deaths, christening and weddings.
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I reckon over 50 % of window cleaners are JW,
so Why ? proportional representation ?????????
I am not.
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The percentage is a large one, though I doubt anyone actually knows the right facts for the entire country ;D Around my way 60% of the WC'ers are JW's, Luke
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Infact unless you are a JW, you might not realise how many of your local competition are JW's, Luke
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Way off topic.
It will end up turning into an argument
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The percentage is a large one, though I doubt anyone actually knows the right facts for the entire country ;D Around my way 60% of the WC'ers are JW's, Luke
Round my way 60% are idiots lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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It will end up turning into an argument
True!! I will now be quiet! Luke
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It will end up turning into an argument
True!! I will now be quiet! Luke
Be quiet Luke the end is nigh lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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:) :)
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Way off topic.
It will end up turning into an argument
well said Art! wheres a mod when you need one? ;D actually Art would make a good mod...i vote for Art!!!! ;D ;D
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Way off topic.
It will end up turning into an argument
well said Art! wheres a mod when you need one? ;D actually Art would make a good mod...i vote for Art!!!! ;D ;D
Only if i can ban everyone that's not Scottish ;D
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what a miserable place it would be!! ;D ;D
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Yeah Art for Mod!!!! ;D Luke
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Yeah Art for Mod!!!! ;D Luke
So i take it your Scottish Luke ;D
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Well......no but my best mate is!!!! Luke
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Well......no but my best mate is!!!! Luke
Tell him he can join when i ban you 8)
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Tell him he can join when i ban you
:( :( :( I could get citizenship, couldnt I?!!!! Luke
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Tell him he can join when i ban you
:( :( :( I could get citizenship, couldnt I?!!!! Luke
only if your a tight git!! ;D ;D
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I am not, not that it matters I am Cof E and only enter church for deaths, christening and weddings.
Wrong order - christenings, weddings & deaths - or hatch, match & despatch as it is more commonly known as! ;D
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I think PJ would also make a very good mod
Second that
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I dont like to mix my beliefs in with a Window Cleaning forum, but so am I!!!! I too clean to support my preaching. And there are quite alot of us on here, I have never mentioned it before on this site, but I know that many of the members on lots of the WC forums are JW's. Luke
I agree that it is best to keep religion and this forum separate Luke. I also prefer to do things that way which is why I first broached the subject. I was already aware of your beliefs though. I'm not sure if you mentioned them directly on here or if you participated in some of the conversations which most members wouldn't notice. I only broached the subject earlier as, if I were to be one of the mods, I would like to be able to do it in a totally fair and even handed way. Some people thrive with their beliefs (whatever they may be) and others suffer severe distress. Most my my early life was severe distress - though I acknowledge that this was as much to do with family issues as religious ones. All I have done here is to try and declare myself in an open and honest manner but it appears I may have inadvertently stirred up a hornets nest. I am starting to regret doing that. I have sometimes needed to sit on my hands and not post when I have seen people exchanging platitudes because I realise that most members would not realise what is happening.
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Why doesnt somone put up a poll , for moderater ?
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Way off topic.
It will end up turning into an argument
well said Art! wheres a mod when you need one? ;D actually Art would make a good mod...i vote for Art!!!! ;D ;D
I vote for Luke ;D
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Way off topic.
It will end up turning into an argument
well said Art! wheres a mod when you need one? ;D actually Art would make a good mod...i vote for Art!!!! ;D ;D
I vote for Luke ;D
I voted for you already Paul (shiner) but i think i'll change my mind now to Luke aswell.
If he wants to be Scottish he has just shot up in my estimation :D
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Dont know why anyone would willingly put up with the abuse that is sometimes on here ! There are some really unhappy people , who just like to come on here , and pull people to pieces ??? Remember is it easier to pull down than to build up ;) Sometimes when you are feeling unsure or a bit fed up , a few kind words from the guys on here can make your day ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
I know someone like that lol. ;D ;D
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
I know someone like that lol. ;D ;D
well it ain't you if thats what your getting at!! ;D ;D
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Sorry if my second post on this thread caused concern - especially with PJ.
I do not know The Shiner (Paul) and I am only aware of him from how he conducts himself on this board throughout many posts.
I have gleaned that although he has had a jw background and that he has never become one himself, the way he conducts himself in religious (and other) threads shows me that he is even handed.
What do you want? A super-staunch jw who deletes Xmas Tip threads or an anti-jw who wades in and closes down posters who offer comfort to the bereaved from their belief system? There are a proportion of jw's on this board and I am sure they do not want favouritism or prejudice. Does it matter what religion a moderator is - not to me - it was simply ONE reason I felt he would be good at the job.
I simply think the way the Shiner conducts himself on this board - not polarising in views towards wfp and trad. topics, not pouring scorn on members choices - window cleaning, holidays, cars, belief systems etc etc etc. - would make him a good moderator.
If there is more than one moderator chosen, then fine.
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
I know someone like that lol. ;D ;D
well it ain't you if thats what your getting at!! ;D ;D
No not me lol,there`s to many bum kissers in the queue in front of me mate. ;) ;)
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
I know someone like that lol. ;D ;D
well it ain't you if thats what your getting at!! ;D ;D
No not me lol,there`s to many bum kissers in the queue in front of me mate. ;) ;)
i wondered why you were on all fours!! ;D ;D ;D
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
I know someone like that lol. ;D ;D
well it ain't you if thats what your getting at!! ;D ;D
No not me lol,there`s to many bum kissers in the queue in front of me mate. ;) ;)
i wondered why you were on all fours!! ;D ;D ;D
How did you know i like it on all fours nat,but i`ve got to tell you i`m a giver not a taker.I can`t understand why anyone would want to be a moderator,i know someone has to do it but not for all the tea in china mate.
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I think it's important to have someone unbiased, unconnected to any supplier & willing to respect (but not necessarily agree with) other peoples perspectives as an alternative view.
I know someone like that lol. ;D ;D
well it ain't you if thats what your getting at!! ;D ;D
No not me lol,there`s to many bum kissers in the queue in front of me mate. ;) ;)
i wondered why you were on all fours!! ;D ;D ;D
How did you know i like it on all fours nat,but i`ve got to tell you i`m a giver not a taker.I can`t understand why anyone would want to be a moderator,i know someone has to do it but not for all the tea in china mate.
mate i ain't gay so lets get that clear!! ;D i thought you were just kissing ass!! ;D
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It's funny how this thread has gone. I (don't) wonder if it would have gone the same if shiner was a catholic. ;D
I also wondered what malc was getting at in his post. Thanks pj for mentioning it, i was itching for the answer. :)
I personally don't think the background of a moderator would have any bearing on them being able to do a great job. This is because CIU is too public and i couldn't see anything being slipped in without someone knowing about it and commenting. The same goes with the suppliers who are long term members. If it is given to them and they are no good for the role then they could get it taken away. I do think having 3 or 4 new mods would keep the irrelevance down to a minimum as they could nip things in the bud.
So add squeaky, tennet and discount to the list.
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It's funny how this thread has gone. I (don't) wonder if it would have gone the same if shiner was a catholic. ;D
I also wondered what malc was getting at in his post. Thanks pj for mentioning it, i was itching for the answer. :)
I personally don't think the background of a moderator would have any bearing on them being able to do a great job. This is because CIU is too public and i couldn't see anything being slipped in without someone knowing about it and commenting. The same goes with the suppliers who are long term members. If it is given to them and they are no good for the role then they could get it taken away. I do think having 3 or 4 new mods would keep the irrelevance down to a minimum as they could nip things in the bud.
So add squeaky, tennet and discount to the list.
Last week Tennant and Discount were the worst thing since stale bread,this week there being put up for moderating,this really is England we are living in isn`t it. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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tennant and discount?....oh please ::)
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LOL
don't you think they would make good moderators?
OK, discount might lock threads that disagree with him. After he has written the final reply. Tennet might lock trad threads unless it could be done without the use of a ladder. And squeaky might ban tosh and ....... well ban tosh really. :o
But, they have thick skins and won't shirk from redirecting a thread or more. They are vocal and express themselves clearly and to the point and they enjoy a wind up as much if not more than most. Could also nominate macmac and groundhog.
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Sorry if my second post on this thread caused concern - especially with PJ.
I do not know The Shiner (Paul) and I am only aware of him from how he conducts himself on this board throughout many posts.
I have gleaned that although he has had a jw background and that he has never become one himself, the way he conducts himself in religious (and other) threads shows me that he is even handed.
What do you want? A super-staunch jw who deletes Xmas Tip threads or an anti-jw who wades in and closes down posters who offer comfort to the bereaved from their belief system? There are a proportion of jw's on this board and I am sure they do not want favouritism or prejudice. Does it matter what religion a moderator is - not to me - it was simply ONE reason I felt he would be good at the job.
I simply think the way the Shiner conducts himself on this board - not polarising in views towards wfp and trad. topics, not pouring scorn on members choices - window cleaning, holidays, cars, belief systems etc etc etc. - would make him a good moderator.
If there is more than one moderator chosen, then fine.
You have me about right there Malc inasmuch that I do believe in fairness. I try to take the view that with all the gaffes I've made at different times in my life, who the heck am I to be judgemental towards others. I think that having gradually to have learned a degree of self acceptance has helped me to accept others. I would like to correct one part of your post though if I may. I was brought up in the JW faith from age 4 or 5 until I walked away when I was 16. I was never kicked out because I was never baptised so am not subject to the shunning that can go on (though if an individual chooses to shun then that is their choice). Adapting to a non religious life was very difficult and there were many traumas - chiefly of my own making. But I had to be true to myself. If I don't believe something I can't pay lip service to it just hanging around due to fearing the consequences of leaving. For me that would just feel totally dishonest.
Please note that I am not knocking anyone's beliefs here. I'm just saying that it didn't feel right for me. In fact, I needed psychotherapy to help me through the difficulties. I am not laying all my problems at the door of the JWs. I'm very aware that many of my difficulties were family issues though the line can be blurred. Also, I'm not particularly good at coping with change and therefore my own inner weaknesses made a large contribution too.
Although some would undoubtedly view me as a sinner, "oppressive wolf", evildoer etc etc, I do endeavour to treat people OK. I would also like to say that it wasn't all bad. Some of the things I was brought up with gave me a basis to recover.
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It's funny how this thread has gone. I (don't) wonder if it would have gone the same if shiner was a catholic. ;D
Although I am not particularly happy with labelling myself, I class myself as an atheist. I am not totally happy with labels because a human being gradually changes in outlook with the passing of the years so whatever I am now, need not be the way I will view things in years to come.
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Shiner is really cool, I have met him
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Way off topic.
It will end up turning into an argument
well said Art! wheres a mod when you need one? ;D actually Art would make a good mod...i vote for Art!!!! ;D ;D
I vote for Luke ;D
I voted for you already Paul (shiner) but i think i'll change my mind now to Luke aswell.
If he wants to be Scottish he has just shot up in my estimation :D
I always seem to get along fine with Scots myself - when I can understand what they're saying ;D
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It's been made abundantly clear that what you think is fair, any criteria you suggest for choosing, any notion of democracy or accountability you may have.......None of it matters.
It's a closed shop.
Peculiarly, i think if I mended my ways I think they probably would have me.
I'll tell you what lads wouldn't it be nice if Mike deigned to post. Even if it was only to tell me to shut up. I would ask him:
1. If two or three new mods are needed, why can't we have them?
2.With all these various methods and suggestions flying about what is wrong with taking on board some of what forum members are saying?
3. What's wrong with a vote?
4. Out of noseyness how many people have applied?
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I nominate Shiner for moderator, as he's a fair person. Good luck to him if he wants and gets it, and is prepared to sacrifice his social life.
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I would like to nominate Mark Dew as he seems like a really decent and down to earth bloke!! :)
By the way I was attacked by a gang of JW's many years ago!! :(
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I have gleaned that although he has had a jw background and that he has never become one himself, the way he conducts himself in religious (and other) threads shows me that he is even handed....
I simply think the way the Shiner conducts himself on this board - not polarising in views towards wfp and trad. topics, not pouring scorn on members choices - window cleaning, holidays, cars, belief systems etc etc etc. - would make him a good moderator.
If there is more than one moderator chosen, then fine.
Shiner, I have quoted myself in part - especially the bit in red. Where does that differ from what you have just said about your own background? What you subsequently wrote I was aware of ...
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I would like to nominate Mark Dew as he seems like a really decent and down to earth bloke!! :)
By the way I was attacked by a gang of JW's many years ago!! :(
Seriously??? Or do you mean they tied you down and read the watchtower to you for three hours ... ;D
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JW's are just fine, some of the nicest down to earth people i have ever met
I would like to nominate Mark Dew as he seems like a really decent and down to earth bloke!! :)
By the way I was attacked by a gang of JW's many years ago!! :(
Seriously??? Or do you mean they tied you down and read the watchtower to you for three hours ... ;D
You bugger you, you made me splurt my cheese on toast all over my moniter
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Seriously they attacked me!!! I was walking past a jw church one evening on my way to a party, a group of about 8 jw's came running out and accused me and my mate of throwing a stone through their church window ??? It was nothing to do with us, but they wouldn't believe us and started attacking us!!! :'(
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bible bashers ;D
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harris pole user bashers !!!!
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Seriously they attacked me!!! I was walking past a jw church one evening on my way to a party, a group of about 8 jw's came running out and accused me and my mate of throwing a stone through their church window ??? It was nothing to do with us, but they wouldn't believe us and started attacking us!!! :'(
I now know that's not true - kingdom halls (JW church as you put it) don't have windows! ;D ;D ;D
j/k!
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JW's are just fine, some of the nicest down to earth people i have ever metI would like to nominate Mark Dew as he seems like a really decent and down to earth bloke!! :)
By the way I was attacked by a gang of JW's many years ago!! :(
Seriously??? Or do you mean they tied you down and read the watchtower to you for three hours ... ;D
You bugger you, you made me splurt my cheese on toast all over my moniter
I thought swearing wasn't allowed! Moderator! Moderator! ... oh ... you are a moderator! ;D
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I would like to nominate Mark Dew as he seems like a really decent and down to earth bloke!! :)
By the way I was attacked by a gang of JW's many years ago!! :(
Behave! :o
There's many on here who could do it but they would have to want to and that rules me out. It is a thankless task and i don't feel comfortable being a target which is part of being a moderator.
A bit selfish i know, but i enjoy coming on here and have advanced because of what i have learned from others. I try to give something back in the form of trying to help others as i have been helped. But the giving back a moderator would be required to do is beyond me, i'm afraid.
But thanks for the compliment groundhog. ;)
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I now know that's not true - kingdom halls (JW church as you put it) don't have windows! ;D ;D ;D
j/k!
Well this one did, I have no reason to lie about it!! I may drive past it tomorrow, if I do, I will take a photo so you can see! Why would they not have windows?? ???
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But thanks for the compliment groundhog. ;)
Your welcome mate! :)
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How about Jeff, he would make a fantastic moderator! and has to be one of the nicest blokes I have never met!!! :)
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Is it just me , or has this site just lightened up a bit ? Keep it up fellas , its good to have a laugh ( as long as your not laughing at me ) ;D
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I wonder how Ian Giles' cricket pitch is getting on?
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Which brush is best? monofillament or salmon or something else?
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salmon? eh?
Sounds a bit fishy to me.
Group hug everyone. ;D
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Group hugs - are they for everybody? Discus.
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I now know that's not true - kingdom halls (JW church as you put it) don't have windows! ;D ;D ;D
j/k!
Well this one did, I have no reason to lie about it!! I may drive past it tomorrow, if I do, I will take a photo so you can see! Why would they not have windows?? ???
I just find it hard to believe!
"Do unto others as you would want them to do to you"
Treat people with fairness and respect... would be a newer way of saying it!
Come on peace loving people don't just mob someone in the street!
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I find your comment offensive!
It doesn't mean I am going to hunt you down and thrash you!
Love you man, we are all bro's (that's what a hippy would say I guess!) 8)
Not sure if that was aimed at me or not? but I was simply telling a true story, I did not ask them to attack me, but they did!!! I assume someone had thrown a stone through their church window, and when they ran out me and my mate just happened to be walking past and they assumed it was us, they attacked and threatened to kill us! No joke, this is true! Women then came out of the church and calmed the situation down. I have nothing against jw's at all, I just don't like being attacked! They were very lucky their wives turned up when they did I can tell you!!!! ;)
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You probobly winked at them lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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How many jws do you think Graham could have taken out ? ( without his pole )
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You probobly winked at them lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
So you did see my wink then mate!! ;D
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I now know that's not true - kingdom halls (JW church as you put it) don't have windows! ;D ;D ;D
j/k!
Well this one did, I have no reason to lie about it!! I may drive past it tomorrow, if I do, I will take a photo so you can see! Why would they not have windows?? ???
I just find it hard to believe!
"Do unto others as you would want them to do to you"
Treat people with fairness and respect... would be a newer way of saying it!
Come on peace loving people don't just mob someone in the street!
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I find your comment offensive!
It doesn't mean I am going to hunt you down and thrash you!
Love you man, we are all bro's (that's what a hippy would say I guess!) 8)
Not sure if that was aimed at me or not? but I was simply telling a true story, I did not ask them to attack me, but they did!!! I assume someone had thrown a stone through their church window, and when they ran out me and my mate just happened to be walking past and they assumed it was us, they attacked and threatened to kill us! No joke, this is true! Women then came out of the church and calmed the situation down. I have nothing against jw's at all, I just don't like being attacked! They were very lucky their wives turned up when they did I can tell you!!!! ;)
Think this was aimed at me , not you groundhog LOL
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How many jws do you think Graham could have taken out ? ( without his pole )
There was 8 of them I reckon, and 2 of us, 4 each would not have been a problem I promise!! If I'd had my pole I would have taken them all on single handed!!! Just like my old hero Monkey! remember him? ;D
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You probobly winked at them lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
So you did see my wink then mate!! ;D
lol i did Graham and the more i watch your vids the more you make me grin.It`s the trotting to the the pole when you`ve just turned the water on that gets me lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Think this was aimed at me , not you groundhog Lol
It wasn't you who threw the stone was it Jonah? ;D
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lol i did Graham and the more i watch your vids the more you make me grin.It`s the trotting to the the pole when you`ve just turned the water on that gets me lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm glad I make you laugh!! I really can't wait for your video, now that really should be a laugh!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Think this was aimed at me , not you groundhog Lol
It wasn't you who threw the stone was it Jonah? ;D
No more bible quotes from me , tempting as it is with that comment lol ;D
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No more bible quotes from me , tempting as it is with that comment lol ;D
Oh go on mate, it's only a bit of fun!! ;D
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Anyway, I thought I'd sum up so far...
Groundhog is a bit traumatised by a childhood experience when a group of JWs bashed him up (there were at least 2/3/4/5/6/7 8 of them
But revenge is a dish best served cold, so he is going to wash their buildings (cos they don't have windows) with a harris pole.
Shiner, has bared his soul, purged himself of all connections with Decorators poles and is modestly willing to delete all the aforementioned rubbish when Admin begs someone/anyone!!! to fill up the boots of the absent Trevor Knight
Malc has been truly trousered
Meanwhile the amnesty forum chat continues ungoverned and ungovernable
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I love the posts on here ;D There are some really intelligent people cleaning windows , and when they post comments on here , I have lots of respect for them ( and I havnt even met them ) All I would say to people posting and replying on here is this . . . . . . . . Dont take it too seriously ! Have a laugh and a joke , and if somone makes a dodgy comment - Havnt we all ? :D
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I have forgiven the jw's for attacking me all those years ago, but I wish they would stop knocking on my door and preaching to me every other week, and then getting all shirty when I point out that I believe in Darwin's theory of evolution! :-\
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Graham, would you like to explain Darwins theory as i would be really interested if you could explain it please?
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Graham, would you like to explain Darwins theory as i would be really interested if you could explain it please?
Google it Art me old mate, it would be a lot easier!! Surely you must have learned about natural selection at school? or are you trying to test me? :)
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Graham, would you like to explain Darwins theory as i would be really interested if you could explain it please?
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Oh, is that the time already? Gotta be up early..... blah blah blah.
There must be something in it, but JW's doorknocking is a marketing disater for them in my opinion.
My experience of them is 100% hard sell usually with an emotive angle, like sticking their poor young kids in front of them cos it tugs on my heart strings to see the childs face almost wincing for the brush off that they know will most likely come.
I resent having to be rude when politely pointing out a lack of interest fails to sink in.
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Graham, would you like to explain Darwins theory as i would be really interested if you could explain it please?
Google it Art me old mate, it would be a lot easier!! Surely you must have learned about natural selection at school? or are you trying to test me? :)
;D ;D ;D Sorry mate i was extracting the urine, i just wanted to see what you would say ;D and yes i did learn about natural selection and your spot on ;)
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Graham, would you like to explain Darwins theory as i would be really interested if you could explain it please?
Google it Art me old mate, it would be a lot easier!! Surely you must have learned about natural selection at school? or are you trying to test me? :)
;D ;D ;D Sorry mate i was extracting the urine, i just wanted to see what you would say ;D and yes i did learn about natural selection and your spot on ;)
No probs Art, I like to use the Darwin line because the jw who reguarly knocks on my door gets very offended by it, and accuses me of suggesting that she is descended from monkeys!!! ;D its very entertaining!!!! ;D
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Graham, would you like to explain Darwins theory as i would be really interested if you could explain it please?
Google it Art me old mate, it would be a lot easier!! Surely you must have learned about natural selection at school? or are you trying to test me? :)
;D ;D ;D Sorry mate i was extracting the urine, i just wanted to see what you would say ;D and yes i did learn about natural selection and your spot on ;)
No probs Art, I like to use the Darwin line because the jw who reguarly knocks on my door gets very offended by it, and accuses me of suggesting that she is descended from monkeys!!! ;D its very entertaining!!!! ;D
You've got a way with the women groundhog.
Pay peanus and get monkeys. ;D
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Lets keep this on track please dont use it to have a knock at JW.
Any more comments like Mark Dews last one then it almost certainly will get deleted
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Lets keep this on track please dont use it to have a knock at JW.
Any more comments like Mark Dews last one then it almost certainly will get deleted
I am highly surprised this post was not locked/deleted long ago ::)
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Lets keep this on track please dont use it to have a knock at JW.
Any more comments like Mark Dews last one then it almost certainly will get deleted
Shouldnt you be on your first job Dave ? Not slacking I hope :P
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Morning! Right, in reply to Groundhog - did you see those grinning faces after my post about the windows! (Having descended from apes I pull faces like one! ;D j/k!)
Of course some jw churches have windows, but due to stone throwing chavs some of them have bricked them up, put grilles over them etc.
I think your story is probably true up to the point that I do not believe that jw's in general would be violent in the setting you describe. (But ... if a stone had come thru' a window and hit somebody then one of the fiery/newer/ex-con ones might have got threatening and lippy in the heat of the moment.)
Now, then all the above posts illustrate why I think Shiner would be a good mod.
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I think your story is probably true up to the point that I do not believe that jw's in general would be violent in the setting you describe.
I'm not bothered if you choose to believe it or not, because it's true! I have no reason to come on here and lie!! I am also sure that in general jw's are not violent people, I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But in my opinion religion causes more violence in this world than anything else, and this was just another example of it!!! :(
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In all fairness why should someones post be deleted for 'knocking' a 'belief system' and the post of the promotion of that system be left.
Is this forum about window cleaning or about something else?
Respectfully Dave.
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I think your story is probably true up to the point that I do not believe that jw's in general would be violent in the setting you describe.
I'm not bothered if you choose to believe it or not, because it's true! I have no reason to come on here and lie!! I am also sure that in general jw's are not violent people, I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But in my opinion religion causes more violence in this world than anything else, and this was just another example of it!!! :(
Groundhog - I believe you were attacked - can I make it any clearer?
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In all fairness why should someones post be deleted for 'knocking' a 'belief system' and the post of the promotion of that system be left.
Is this forum about window cleaning or about something else?
Respectfully Dave.
The red highlighted bit - Spot on Dave!
This forum has several areas - but I agree that this section is about window cleaning - but (again) some people window clean for different reasons and so their religion might be one of them - if you don't know their religion (which may be behind their decision to w/c in the first place) then when they offer business advice you won't know it is "skewed" because their plans are based on their religious beliefs ...
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Talk about being off topic! Why doesn't someone just create a poll for or against this 'shiner' person?
I know - I'll do it!
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I'm stuck at home waiting for some hoses to turn up today, so I'm stuck watching the forum, should find something better to do. I am surprised though that this thread has been allowed to go this far and so far off topic.
I know many a word has been said in jest, tongue in cheek jibing. But for the JW's participating, what would Jesus do? Ask a question like how many JW's could you have taken out?
All though I may have been guilty of it in the past, I don't think using scriptures references on this forum is fair, it's like talking a different language to some people, if some dude come on and started speaking Spanish we'd be like WHAT?!? If you want to use a scripture just quote it.
How about the principle behind this scripture, "Do not throw your pearls before swine." I'm not calling any forum member swine, but listen they've made their mind up just move on.
As for Shiner be a mod, well I've never read a post about window cleaning of his that I didn't agree with. Why anybody would want to moderate us lot though beggars belief. But I'm sure he would make a good one.
Enough said
Simon.
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It has not been locked by me so far because i dont interfere on this section usually.
I think now because Ian is not here i should lock it.
I think you will all agree it has run its course
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