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Title: salmon or vikan
Post by: darragh windows on June 09, 2008, 11:01:41 pm
have the window cleaners who use salmon brushes tried vikan just curious as ive only ever tried vikan and have had no problems with them and love the rubbber  protective strip
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:04:19 pm
Vikan for me, although rectangular is a must as i don't clean the top frame & do a lot of sash windows.

Tried salmon, hate them, total over-hyped rubbish! ;)

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: darragh windows on June 09, 2008, 11:08:13 pm
il have to get a rectangular one as well as i use oval and find it hard to get the corners of top of the bottem sash is the rectangular better for these
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:12:25 pm
il have to get a rectangular one as well as i use oval and find it hard to get the corners of top of the bottem sash is the rectangular better for these

Absolutley, you'll struggle to clean & rinse the corners with an oval. trust me, i used one for 2 years then switched to the rectangular when it came to the market. they're worlds apart, IMO for sash windows, rectangular is a must. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: darragh windows on June 09, 2008, 11:22:03 pm
exactly which one do u use mac mac and where do you get them
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 11:38:05 pm
exactly which one do u use mac mac and where do you get them
He uses the red mono rectangular and there available from any toilet cleaning brush suppliers,there rubbish they bounce across the glass like there`s no tomorrow,if he thinks that`s the best brush there is he aint tried that many,try a Tucker and then the vikan mono and tell me i`m right.
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:40:56 pm
I use both flocked (green & red bristles) & monofilament (red bristles). you can get them from just about all wfp suppliers but i get mine from cleantech as i prefere where they possition the jets,- more towards the edges of the brush, gives a better flow throughout the bristles & rises better into corners. I would also recommend 2mm pencil jets & not fan jets. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:43:06 pm
exactly which one do u use mac mac and where do you get them
He uses the red mono rectangular and there available from any toilet cleaning brush suppliers,there rubbish they bounce across the glass like there`s no tomorrow,if he thinks that`s the best brush there is he aint tried that many,try a Tucker and then the vikan mono and tell me i`m right.

Listen to him & you'll end up with a garage full of useless brushes like him! ;D

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 11:44:55 pm
exactly which one do u use mac mac and where do you get them
He uses the red mono rectangular and there available from any toilet cleaning brush suppliers,there rubbish they bounce across the glass like there`s no tomorrow,if he thinks that`s the best brush there is he aint tried that many,try a Tucker and then the vikan mono and tell me i`m right.

Listen to him & you'll end up with a garage full of useless brushes like him! ;D

Tony
Yeah but you`ve got to kiss a few frogs first and all that Tony,i like to look a bit further a field than car cleaning brushes lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:46:03 pm
exactly which one do u use mac mac and where do you get them

P.S. It's vital you get medium grade bristles & NOT hard ones like NWH. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: alanwilson on June 09, 2008, 11:56:05 pm
we have tried

oval vikan flocked - rubbish
oval vikan mono - rubbish
rectangular vikan flocked - rubbish
rectangular vikan mono - rubbish
16inch vikan flocked - very heavy rubbish
vikan sill flocked - rubbish
vikan swivel - rubbish
salmon 15inch (same as fogwills) - very good
salmon 11inch - best brush we've used so far
ionics multipole brush - not bad but went curly after 3 days!
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: darragh windows on June 10, 2008, 05:58:14 pm
alan where did you get your 11 inch salmon and what colour or bristles does it have
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: clean on June 10, 2008, 06:08:39 pm
Tried salmon, hate them, total over-hyped rubbish!

quoted my macmac

salmon 11inch - best brush we've used so far

quoted by alan wilson

what suits one does`nt suit another  ;)





Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 10, 2008, 06:11:50 pm
Tried salmon, hate them, total over-hyped rubbish!

quoted my macmac

salmon 11inch - best brush we've used so far

quoted by alan wilson

what suits one does`nt suit another  ;)







Yep, that just about sums it up, horses for courses. personal preference & technique play a big part in brush choice. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: john tomkins on June 10, 2008, 08:53:18 pm
Vikan mono rectangular for me too, had a split pole hose today so changed poles and this one had one of the salmon on it.....wow....so crap, even though it was also mono the amount of bits that got trapped in the bristles was horrendous, good job i've fixed the split hose now so I can go back to the vikan ;D


Macmac..... how do you know what grade the vikans are???
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: macmac on June 11, 2008, 08:55:33 pm
Vikan mono rectangular for me too, had a split pole hose today so changed poles and this one had one of the salmon on it.....wow....so crap, even though it was also mono the amount of bits that got trapped in the bristles was horrendous, good job i've fixed the split hose now so I can go back to the vikan ;D


Macmac..... how do you know what grade the vikans are???

It's best to ask, i have a flocked one from cleantech (medium) but ordered one from wintecs & the two are totaly different. the soft one is no good as an all round brush it just splays all over with no pressure on it, ok for wafer thin georgians though.

This is how i found out about it, as the two looked identical but are completely different in use. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: neil100 on June 13, 2008, 10:10:30 pm
Vikan oval on my mini poles

salmon brush on my 18' & 24' pole

I also have a vikan oval on an 18' pole that I use on first cleans and upstairs windows that have big stone sills as the pole has a big metal gooseneck.

I love the salmon for its lightweight. If I do a 5 day week the wight is vital for me as when I used vikan brushes on all my poles when I went wfp, my hands swelled up and tingled all the time I also had constant upper arm pain mixed with tennis elbow.Its only when I put the salmon on my 18' poles that the pain went away.

So for me its a no brainer,Salmon upstairs, vikan downstairs.

Nel
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: L.J.Thorpe on June 13, 2008, 10:27:19 pm
after a couple or three cleans who cares ::)
i use vikan sill and oval
bentley(superlite)
salmon
and various diy jobs
if they have been done regular a bloody masonry brush will do the job
christ i could just spray the glass on 80% of em and scrub the odd bird turd and no one would notice ;D
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: NWH on June 13, 2008, 10:34:17 pm
after a couple or three cleans who cares ::)
i use vikan sill and oval
bentley(superlite)
salmon
and various diy jobs
if they have been done regular a bloody masonry brush will do the job
christ i could just spray the glass on 80% of em and scrub the odd bird turd and no one would notice ;D
To a point i agree with that,it`s lightness mainly once there up to scratch.From then on it is really only getting the water on the glass,with mono brushes though the water flows through the brush better leaving no bits behind.
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on June 14, 2008, 12:13:40 am
I find the down side to salmon brushes is that they loose a lot of bristles in custys widow frames.
Simon.
Title: Re: salmon or vikan
Post by: windowwashers on June 14, 2008, 12:40:18 am
after a couple or three cleans who cares ::)
i use vikan sill and oval
bentley(superlite)
salmon
and various diy jobs
if they have been done regular a bloody masonry brush will do the job
christ i could just spray the glass on 80% of em and scrub the odd bird turd and no one would notice ;D
Bird turn and bentley is asking for 20 times longer min to get it off, it could well be me but the birds are dive bombing a lot of the windows we clean at the mo, and I swear they have cement in there poop bentley I binned as took far to long to get it off.