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Title: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 06:26:01 pm
 ??? my 3rd clean was better than my fourth, ive noticed soap still foaming out, how long does this take to clear and do you think i need a different brush?

any help fellers ???
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: alanwilson on June 09, 2008, 06:29:20 pm
hi kris - more likely to be air bubbles from your water - some guys notice it more on the first house of the day etc.

I presume you have a di vessel in the van?  this is usually the cause.

as long as the results are good then thats what really matters
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 06:29:29 pm
A mono brush ie salmon will get rid of it all,do a clean with 1 and when you go up to the edges it will milk like mad.It will remove soap residue far quicker.
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: alanwilson on June 09, 2008, 06:31:46 pm
oh yeah NWH is right, you need to be using a top quality brush like the salmon or similar.  monofilament
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 06:33:57 pm
could somebody pls send me a link to a salmon, where to get one from pls.... at the moment im using a vikan oval with all red bristles, is that any good for first cleans...   also im using a trolley and bringing the water in barrels...
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 06:35:52 pm
If you want to do it yourself then google stratfords or www.window-tools.com,Peter Fogwill sells them.
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 06:36:59 pm
do i have to modify it to fit it on my xtel
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 06:42:11 pm
If you get the 15" it will screw straight on an angle adapter but if it`s the square version you will have to glue an angle adapter into the lined thread.You must jet these at the top of the brush otherwise to many bristles need to be removed,it also works better like that for rinsing on.Get 1 from Peter he normally fans his mono brushes,a fan of water with this brush is good cos it keeps the bristles wetter and it seems to float over the glass more with fan jets,i wouldn`t recommend fans on all brushes but i would on this 1.
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 06:45:36 pm
now i think that would loose me, im new too wfp 5 weeks ago, is it hard too do....   i know im a numpty  :D
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: windowwashers on June 09, 2008, 07:09:57 pm
??? my 3rd clean was better than my fourth, ive noticed soap still foaming out, how long does this take to clear and do you think i need a different brush?

any help fellers ???
are you taking the time on the top ? I use vikan red mono and do not have this problem at all, I make sure the top edge gets worked on more than anything else this is first clean not 4th. if you use the same as me angle the brush so it splays up to sill egdes and scrusb hard & rinse, clean rest and do the same again (1st clean) on second I do the same just to make sure then back to spped cleaning.

Ian

p.s I rinse on with vikan and dont have any problems, I find them better than some brushes for first cleans as the weight helps IMO it not all about lite its about doing the job right  ;)
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 07:11:50 pm
do you mean the top of the frame?
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: windowwashers on June 09, 2008, 07:14:37 pm
do you mean the top of the frame?
top of frame and also where glass meets the frame at the top. All you have to remember that water always using the lazy route bring anything it can with it (down normally) keep the top clean and you minamize the problem a lot.

Ian
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 07:17:05 pm
cheers for your advice fellers. ill be scrubbing scrubbing and scrubbing somemore tommoz till my arms fall off ;D
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: windowwashers on June 09, 2008, 07:19:35 pm
cheers for your advice fellers. ill be scrubbing scrubbing and scrubbing somemore tommoz till my arms fall off ;D
Let us know how you get on  ;)
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 07:20:34 pm
will do  ;)
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: kris martin on June 09, 2008, 07:37:48 pm
once again thanks for the advice
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: Kevin R on June 09, 2008, 07:39:58 pm
All this talk of salmon brushes are the best - Vikans cause spotting, bubbles, and the return of the anti-christ according to some of you. There really is nothing wrong with Vikan brushes period!!!

If I listened to half of you lot I would have rushed to B & Q got my self a decorators pole and glued some cheap brush to it - I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 08:53:33 pm
All this talk of salmon brushes are the best - Vikans cause spotting, bubbles, and the return of the anti-christ according to some of you. There really is nothing wrong with Vikan brushes period!!!

If I listened to half of you lot I would have rushed to B & Q got my self a decorators pole and glued some cheap brush to it - I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?
lol good on ya,i have a square vikan mono down by the side of my toilet if anyone wants it. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: windowwashers on June 09, 2008, 08:59:09 pm
All this talk of salmon brushes are the best - Vikans cause spotting, bubbles, and the return of the anti-christ according to some of you. There really is nothing wrong with Vikan brushes period!!!

If I listened to half of you lot I would have rushed to B & Q got my self a decorators pole and glued some cheap brush to it - I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?
lol good on ya,i have a square vikan mono down by the side of my toilet if anyone wants it. ;D ;D ;D ;D
i'll have it, seems to work fine for me, on or off the glass.
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: pjulk on June 09, 2008, 10:11:03 pm
Kevin R said
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I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?

Yes  ;D

The others don't think it they know it  ;D

Anyway brushes don't glue on to the B&Q pole they fit like any other pole
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:02:21 pm
All this talk of salmon brushes are the best - Vikans cause spotting, bubbles, and the return of the anti-christ according to some of you. There really is nothing wrong with Vikan brushes period!!!

If I listened to half of you lot I would have rushed to B & Q got my self a decorators pole and glued some cheap brush to it - I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?

Spot on, this whole-

 " whoooo, that brush is 54 gramms too heavy "
 " that one won't get rid of soap "
 " that one won't rinse on properly "
 " bla, bla, blaarrrr, etc etc "

Is total over-analysis & the real problem usualy lies in the technique used.

The vikan rectangulars are very, very good brushes & IMO the salmons are crap! ;)

Tony
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: NWH on June 09, 2008, 11:40:00 pm
All this talk of salmon brushes are the best - Vikans cause spotting, bubbles, and the return of the anti-christ according to some of you. There really is nothing wrong with Vikan brushes period!!!

If I listened to half of you lot I would have rushed to B & Q got my self a decorators pole and glued some cheap brush to it - I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?

Spot on, this whole-

 " whoooo, that brush is 54 gramms too heavy "
 " that one won't get rid of soap "
 " that one won't rinse on properly "
 " bla, bla, blaarrrr, etc etc "

Is total over-analysis & the real problem usualy lies in the technique used.

The vikan rectangulars are very, very good brushes & IMO the salmons are crap! ;)

Tony
Tony i`ve been reading a few of your posts tonight and have come to the conclusion that your a salesman for Vikan and Gardiners lol. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: macmac on June 09, 2008, 11:44:37 pm
All this talk of salmon brushes are the best - Vikans cause spotting, bubbles, and the return of the anti-christ according to some of you. There really is nothing wrong with Vikan brushes period!!!

If I listened to half of you lot I would have rushed to B & Q got my self a decorators pole and glued some cheap brush to it - I am I the only one one here that thinks some of you are barking Mad?

Spot on, this whole-

 " whoooo, that brush is 54 gramms too heavy "
 " that one won't get rid of soap "
 " that one won't rinse on properly "
 " bla, bla, blaarrrr, etc etc "

Is total over-analysis & the real problem usualy lies in the technique used.

The vikan rectangulars are very, very good brushes & IMO the salmons are crap! ;)

Tony
Tony i`ve been reading a few of your posts tonight and have come to the conclusion that your a salesman for Vikan and Gardiners lol. ;D ;D ;D

No dude, just stick with what works for me. :P

Tony
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: alanwilson on June 09, 2008, 11:59:27 pm
vikan brushes ARE too heavy - if you can get away with charging £25 for a semi then fine - you don't need to clean too many at that price but for us - getting £6 for a semi we have to work FAST - vikan just don't cut it.
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: macmac on June 10, 2008, 12:09:13 am
vikan brushes ARE too heavy - if you can get away with charging £25 for a semi then fine - you don't need to clean too many at that price but for us - getting £6 for a semi we have to work FAST - vikan just don't cut it.

That's why you modify them. ;)

Tony
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: alanwilson on June 10, 2008, 12:12:43 am
fair enough tony but I don't like the bristles either!

Tucker next

rang to enquire about the tucker brushes - 42.20+VAT

now the money ain't a problem but £50 for a brush??  avin a laugh??
Title: Re: ive done a fourth clean
Post by: macmac on June 10, 2008, 12:19:50 am
fair enough tony but I don't like the bristles either!

Tucker next

rang to enquire about the tucker brushes - 42.20+VAT

now the money ain't a problem but £50 for a brush??  avin a laugh??

I think 50 quid is well spent if it works for you. ;)

Tony