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Title: is it expensive?
Post by: kris martin on June 06, 2008, 11:57:12 pm
about how much does it cost to have a professional website made? for all i know it could be £10 or £100 or £1000
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: kris martin on June 07, 2008, 12:00:05 am
window washers can you help me on this one?
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:00:39 am
Ask window washers or build one like mine for about £50
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: kris martin on June 07, 2008, 12:01:22 am
who built yours?
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:02:13 am
Me!
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: kris martin on June 07, 2008, 12:03:27 am
what program did you use?
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:03:40 am
Anything from free to loads of money.

Same as WCE less than £50. Have a look at www.office-cleaners-slough.co.uk

That's one of mine and it cost less than £50
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:04:05 am
It's not the best but was easy to do. Buy your name through 123 reg and use their site builder. Anyone can use it no computer skills required!
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:04:10 am
Depends what you want (more what you need), some think they need loads when to be honest they dont,

Starts at £49 upwards, your welcome to give me a call on 01234 870 225 or 07788 732 789

I dont talk you into anything just have a chat give advice and your choice what you want to do.

Ian

p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: kris martin on June 07, 2008, 12:06:18 am
cheers window washers in july ill give you a bell because thats when im going to transform my business so it would be pointless until then..
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:06:55 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:08:44 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:09:57 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.
Thgat was not aimed as a dig at you far from it, or anyone else that has posted, I know full well about page ranking m8, I was saying that many has a site that does not work for them and the main reasonms are the layout, the text, the sources code bits and bobs, just because a site looks nice means nothing (new business means something IMO)

Ian
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:11:09 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords? Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story. You need to think what the person trying to find you will  type in. Will they put the comapny name if they have never even heard of you? No! They are more likely to use a general term to search window cleaners in the area.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:13:08 am
Have to also say that page rankings and getting on a first page quick is 2 diffrent things quick on page 1 is not that hard staying there is..


12 hours I have hit #1 on google that even shocked me.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:17:01 am
Have to also say that page rankings and getting on a first page quick is 2 diffrent things quick on page 1 is not that hard staying there is..


12 hours I have hit #1 on google that even shocked me.
With which keywords though if the google robots had trawled you and Window washers was Number 1 then that isn't that impressive. However if you had say the number 1 listing for find a window cleaner inside 12 hours then that is impressive. 
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:17:13 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:19:25 am
Have to also say that page rankings and getting on a first page quick is 2 diffrent things quick on page 1 is not that hard staying there is..


12 hours I have hit #1 on google that even shocked me.

Ian, page rankings aren't something i really don't  bother about. I've got search terms that i configure and they get me on top of page one and that's what counts
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:19:50 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
Maybe it isn't all about keywords but you still didnt answer my question. What were the keywords that you made such a high ranking with almost imediately?
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:21:08 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
|Trial and error can get you banned for life, it takes alot of time dudy to work it with google as they change all the time, there are loads of things I see and do that make a difference.

Art you are on the right lines though, but to be right up there is a full time job on its own.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:23:06 am
I know what you mean about google. They pulled my adwords add over content why? Overuse of capitals!
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:26:21 am
I know what you mean about google. They pulled my adwords add over content why? Overuse of capitals!
Do you have a hard hat on domestics ? or was that a builders clean ? Pic on your site  :-\
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:27:58 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
|Trial and error can get you banned for life, it takes alot of time dudy to work it with google as they change all the time, there are loads of things I see and do that make a difference.

Art you are on the right lines though, but to be right up there is a full time job on its own.

Ian, i'm not on the right lines mate i'm on the top of page one and that's where the money is  ;)
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:31:27 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
|Trial and error can get you banned for life, it takes alot of time dudy to work it with google as they change all the time, there are loads of things I see and do that make a difference.

Art you are on the right lines though, but to be right up there is a full time job on its own.

Ian, i'm not on the right lines mate i'm on the top of page one and that's where the money is  ;)
thats good Art, I aint knocking you at all. All I am saying is staying they is different, you may well have a very good page to keep you there then maybe not, time will tell on that.

but at the mo its all good  ;)
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:34:32 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
Maybe it isn't all about keywords but you still didnt answer my question. What were the keywords that you made such a high ranking with almost imediately?

I did answer your question. I said it's not all about keywords or at least it isn't what i concentrate on  for top rankings.

If you take the time to do some research on SEO then it's really not that difficult.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:35:04 am
I know what you mean about google. They pulled my adwords add over content why? Overuse of capitals!
Do you have a hard hat on domestics ? or was that a builders clean ? Pic on your site  :-\
Thats was a build clean. To be honest It was an experiment to add a picture and it was the first to hand, It may surprise you (I know you can do better than that (I will be in touch, is Gloucestershire an area that is still available?) but that site seems to bring me in work all the time! If I had a better site then who knows. No offence but that site has cost me about £22 and I have spent about  3.5 hours on it including updates. It's not the best but it has done well the same.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: Art on June 07, 2008, 12:36:33 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
|Trial and error can get you banned for life, it takes alot of time dudy to work it with google as they change all the time, there are loads of things I see and do that make a difference.

Art you are on the right lines though, but to be right up there is a full time job on its own.

Ian, i'm not on the right lines mate i'm on the top of page one and that's where the money is  ;)
thats good Art, I aint knocking you at all. All I am saying is staying they is different, you may well have a very good page to keep you there then maybe not, time will tell on that.

but at the mo its all good  ;)

Ian,have you had a look at my sites then?
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:38:04 am
Quote from: windowwashers link=topic=56473.msg480567#msg480567 date=1212793450
p.s a website is no good without marketing ;) tip for many on here
[quote

This is true and please understand it takes time to achieve high rankings on search engines.

No it doesn't. The site i quoted was on page one of google within a week
by using what keywords. Mine was number 1 if you typed in wce window cleaning. Window cleaner Tewkesbury  though different story.

It's not all about keywords, there's a bit more to it than that, but nothing as complicated as most think.

Keywords are supposedly less important than they once were, but having said that there's no one that knows 100% how google operates, so it's very much trial and error
|Trial and error can get you banned for life, it takes alot of time dudy to work it with google as they change all the time, there are loads of things I see and do that make a difference.

Art you are on the right lines though, but to be right up there is a full time job on its own.

Ian, i'm not on the right lines mate i'm on the top of page one and that's where the money is  ;)
thats good Art, I aint knocking you at all. All I am saying is staying they is different, you may well have a very good page to keep you there then maybe not, time will tell on that.

but at the mo its all good  ;)

Ian,have you had a look at my sites then?
not really, I did click on it a few weeks back
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 12:40:12 am
I know what you mean about google. They pulled my adwords add over content why? Overuse of capitals!
Do you have a hard hat on domestics ? or was that a builders clean ? Pic on your site  :-\
I only added that pic last night as an experiment ahead of some planned changes. To be honest I forgot it was on there! LOL!
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 12:43:02 am
I know what you mean about google. They pulled my adwords add over content why? Overuse of capitals!
Do you have a hard hat on domestics ? or was that a builders clean ? Pic on your site  :-\
I only added that pic last night as an experiment ahead of some planned changes. To be honest I forgot it was on there! LOL!
I am reading back in my posts and I hope they are not coming across as me trying to dig in anyway, as they are not meant to, I just pint out things, and in the wriiten word they can be taken one way or they other.

Was a little strange that pic though  :P

Ian
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: WCE on June 07, 2008, 01:02:54 am
No I understand you ain't taking the p! I admit you know more about the web sites than me and the picture it's crap! I am just experimenting! I need to change that picture, the header picture (if thats what you call it!) and much more I will be in touch! I was just trying to say 1. Look what someone with no internet skills could do and 2. Look what I did do for around £20! I do however feel that I could do with an upgrade to my site so I will be in touch in the not to distant future! Anyway, you never answered my question, is glos still available and also what  worces? As I am right on the border how much for both?   
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: mark dew on June 07, 2008, 01:19:03 am
i am sold on the idea of getting a website. I will also call you 1 day ww (don't choke on your cornflakes) when i have some decent photos to put on there and get a design for signwritten van.

It will happen 1 day this year.
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 01:22:30 am
No I understand you ain't taking the p! I admit you know more about the web sites than me and the picture it's crap! I am just experimenting! I need to change that picture, the header picture (if thats what you call it!) and much more I will be in touch! I was just trying to say 1. Look what someone with no internet skills could do and 2. Look what I did do for around £20! I do however feel that I could do with an upgrade to my site so I will be in touch in the not to distant future! Anyway, you never answered my question, is glos still available and also what  worces? As I am right on the border how much for both?   
they are not towns, give me a call and I will have a chat with you, and will be well in your interest at this present time.


Ian

I am on mobile or office tomorrow, try office first then mobile or leave a message and I will call you back. I have to go and get a suit for tomorrow night (I torn lsat one  ;D didnt work  :( I hate going to suited and boots things) anyway give me a call and I will have a chat with you.


Ian

p.s if you dont know my numbers they are on my home page only.

pps Mark I new you would come around in the end   ;) and I am glad is was not eating at the time  8)
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: mark dew on June 07, 2008, 01:32:09 am
pps Mark I new you would come around in the end   ;) and I am glad is was not eating at the time  8)


Groundhogs videos have turned my head.
I'm a rural cleaner and rural i will stay cos i'm a bumpkin at heart but i can see it being very useful if done in conjunction with other things i have in mind.
It's time to move out of my comfort zone. I need to prepare properly for it 1st though.
ie more kit, photos and sign written van.
The signwriting will be the hardest thing to take on though cos in the past i've always
preferred the shadows.
But i shall overcome


and will then be in touch.  :)
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 01:42:03 am
pps Mark I new you would come around in the end   ;) and I am glad is was not eating at the time  8)


Groundhogs videos have turned my head.
I'm a rural cleaner and rural i will stay cos i'm a bumpkin at heart but i can see it being very useful if done in conjunction with other things i have in mind.
It's time to move out of my comfort zone. I need to prepare properly for it 1st though.
ie more kit, photos and sign written van.
The signwriting will be the hardest thing to take on though cos in the past i've always
preferred the shadows.
But i shall overcome


and will then be in touch.  :)

Any time, if you need any "free" help in the mean time on the other bits you know where to get my number from, call me.

Ian


Ian
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: mark dew on June 07, 2008, 01:44:42 am
i will. thanks
Title: Re: is it expensive?
Post by: windowwashers on June 07, 2008, 01:47:46 am
i will. thanks
Anytime, if I can help I always will.  ;)

I guess I better hit the sack soon, suit fitting in the morning  :'(

Ian