Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kirky on June 04, 2008, 05:42:02 pm
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if so the place will be a alot less helpful..what a top fella
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No i think that the company who enginering company that installs them is owned by someone in his family and Andrew took the idea to them of designing wfp systems and Andrew works for them but dont qoute me on that.
Chris
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i thought andrew was pure freedom and the company that makes their trolleys etc were adepta.
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a mate of mne bought a trolly about a month ago,he was having trouble with his TDS reading so he phoned for some advice,he asked to speak to andrew and was told he'd left the company.
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there is more than one andrew there though
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there is more than one andrew there though
yep that is true never thought of that maybe my mate just asked for andrew
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I spoke to him 3 or 4 weeks back and he was there. ???
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I spoke to him 3 or 4 weeks back and he was there. ???
i'm talking 2 days ago ( tuesday)
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Bought a load kit of him last week. It was either him or a damn good impression.
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I will be well gutted if Andrew Mcann has left. He was the reason I went to Pure Freedom.
And he was the one who helped me through the tough times when I first started WFP......and still offers me advice these days :(
Bob
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Andrew Mccann has handed his notice in at purefreedom and is on Garden leave.
Purefreedom is still running as it was not owned by andy M he just worked for them.
It is a shame to hear hes leaving as I liked Andrew M.
I have also spoke alot to the other Andy's at purefreedom there are 2 more (Andy must be a popular name in Grimsby) everything will be the same and same backup as always.
Andy Mccann if you read this give me a call and good luck in what you do next.
There you go you now have the facts about this issue.
Ian
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But Andrew Mcann is a window cleaner. The other Andrews aint :-[
Think we should hunt down Mr Mcann and get his home number for any advice in thr future ;D
Bob
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Andrew Mccan
Give me a call 0789 420 4323
Dave
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But Andrew Mcann is a window cleaner. The other Andrews aint :-[
Think we should hunt down Mr Mcann and get his home number for any advice in thr future ;D
Bob
Do you need to be a window cleaner to install systems like they have and still do :-\ I am sure Andy M will be on here soon. ;)
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That really does suck. :(
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He was the main reason i travelled up there to get my system installed as he really wanted to help, didnt rip you off or sell you anything you didnt really need, he is the best person to speek to at purefreedom as spoke to a couple of them and they didnt seem to no too much, things could change now he gone as its mainly a engeneering company that purfreedom ran along side.
chris
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Ian
Most definately yes, you DO need someone with window cleaning experience when selling these systems.
When I first got my trolley, A Mcann was on hol and the other guys didnt have a clue on how to use the system properly.
This meant I couldnt really use the system till he got back. I had sooo many questions that needed answering.
Not knocking the other guys but Mcann was the man with all the info ;D
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hopefully mr M will set up on his own, idealy he ought to go into partnership woth peter fogwill and they'd create the ultimate window cleaning company with a branch each side of the border ;) ;) ;) ;)
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I personally dont think you need to be a window cleaner (but knowing the ins and outs you do)
Andrew Mccann I will miss, but I am sure we have not heard the last from him.
Would I reccommend them still now Andy M has left the answer is yes.
Andy leaving is a shock and a little :'(
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ive only met him once but had numerous phone conversations,the blokes a true gent and his knowledge is 2nd to none..
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Don't know him, apart from on here, but liked him. He did seem to have something on his mind...
I think that the suppliers have all moved on, it's no longer possible to sell bodge it products that you biult yourself in your shed. Several of the leading suppliers use the by window cleaners for window cleaners angle. One step beyond this is personalitys that are well known and trusted- Peter, Glynn, Andrew, Alex.
Even so the products are getting ever more sophisticated, the gutter vac and the slx for instance are in fact brilliant, and to take them further now you probably need a university style approach.
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well that is a shock and a shame, up to now i have only bought all my stuff from him and will only speak to him, if im honest the other guys there dont know their stuff and dont seem to have the time for anyone.
can remember when andy was on holiday and i rang them several (5 or 6) times waiting for a price and a part and they seemed to get adjitated with me, andrew came back and they were at my house that next morning!!
andrew, you have to setup on your own or join forces with someone...
good luck in what ever you do and thank you so much for your help and lenghty conversations :D
matt
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Just thought as well, very often when you leave somewhere, or there is a parting of the ways, as a senior employee or part owner or whatever, you have those confidentiality agreements, and non start up agreements. And if there's either money or lawyers involved you have to keep your gob shut. ;) ;)
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Just thought as well, very often when you leave somewhere, or there is a parting of the ways, as a senior employee or part owner or whatever, you have those confidentiality agreements, and non start up agreements. And if there's either money or lawyers involved you have to keep your gob shut. ;) ;)
Spoke to Andy a couple of times , and he was very heplfull and knowledgable . With people like him you usually find when they leave a company , they usually take a lot of customers with them . All the best mate ;D
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yeah seemed a nice guy i hade trouble from them waited for a water machine like nearly 3 /4 months they cost me money in the end and turned up not what i wanted o well ro man all the way .
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well if this is true, it would be a shame as he knows what was needed as he spent many years as a window cleaner
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He was on here a little while a go, would be nice if he can join us here.
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Few on here think he will do ok ;)
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Few on here think he will do ok ;)
I'm sure he'll do okay, but it was always the combined effort of Adrew and Adepta engineering which made purefreedom so good. Good quality products, and advice and backup from a real window cleaner, who knows every in and out of the trade.
Shame.
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I think it is a shame that pure freedom have lost that combination. Good products backed up by good support from Andrew Mcann. Andy if you read this, Good luck for the future and if you future includes Window cleaning products let us know!
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Thought i would put my little bit in here,
Andrew mccann was the only person there that i really spoke with and got on with, when Bod told me about the system, andrew was the one i spoke to and sold me the trolley system,
i rang a few weeks ago because my pole busted and got another andrew, he really didnt have a clue, i had to buy another pole to get me on the road to money again but asked for a bit to repair the old pole, only went and sent me the wrong bit,
to be honest ive not had much luck with purefreedom as in customer care since i brought the trolley.
i will go elsewhere if i need anything now.
oh and they never replied to any email i sent,, nnice of them
Good luck Andrew and hopefully you will pop up somewhere else, where i wouldn`t hesitate to deal with you personally.
Haydn
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Good luck Andrew and hopefully you will pop up somewhere else, where i wouldn`t hesitate to deal with you personally.
Haydn
here here
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The other Andrew is Andrew Oakley
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Its Andrew Bramley. Im sure off it. The other Andrew that is. Unless there are more than 2 Andrew's.
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when i went and ask for andrew the women says which one there are a few andrews here, and i have had my trolley 7 weeks and everytime i have phoned for advice i have got good advice so it will be a shame if he has left..
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Its Andrew Bramley. Im sure off it. The other Andrew that is. Unless there are more than 2 Andrew's.
Apologies, I think your right.
Thing is theres 2 villages round here, ones Bramley t'other Oakley, nought as queer as folk ay!
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He'll tell us himself I'm sure.....
He's been logging on just not posting :)
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Its Andrew Bramley. Im sure off it. The other Andrew that is. Unless there are more than 2 Andrew's.
There are more than 2 Andrew's there, or should a say was :(
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There were 3 Andrews working at Pure Freedom.
I'm sure Mr Mcann will come out soon :-*...........and start posting
Bob
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:owell seems like it needs to be confirmed really
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He has been posting today, Andrew come on put us out of our misery! Simple yes or no have you left pure freedom? Remember like discount said there maybe confidentiality agreements in place regarding his departure but that dosen't mean that he cant confirm if he has left.
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He has been posting today, Andrew come on put us out of our misery! Simple yes or no have you left pure freedom? Remember like discount said there maybe confidentiality agreements in place regarding his departure but that dosen't mean that he cant confirm if he has left.
He Has handed in his notice, I think I have already said this.
I would not blame him if he does not post on this topic to be honest
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Yes you did say that. It seems though that some people on this and other forums cant believe it. I understand that he wont give details but he could confirm he has left to the doubters.
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Yes you did say that. It seems though that some people on this and other forums cant believe it. I understand that he wont give details but he could confirm he has left to the doubters.
I called and spoke to freedom about this as I want to put it straight have to say again I was shocked but it is 100% true what I have said
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Has anyone heard of a confidentiality agreement? Maybe this is why Andrew hasn't replied to this post.
I can say that Andrew is a top man and that his customer after service is second to non!
He helped me with the transition from Trad to wfp and we all know how daunting that can be?
If he wasn't in the office when I called, he always took time out to phone me back with help and advice, how many companies do you know off, that do that? Normally they take your money and run?
After 18 months of being a wfp w/c, I have the same equipment I started with, although added to along the way, its used almost every day and worked trouble fee, so not only does he offer excellent after sales and customer support he also sells reliable equipment.
Give Andrew time out and I'm sure he'll respond to everyone as and when he can.
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>:( >:( >:(
I am not a happy man right now.
Peter. Please accept my apologies. I can understand your reaction to that wording.
It is now deleted from the advert.
Kind regards
Andrew
Could it be about this?
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>:( >:( >:(
I am not a happy man right now.
Peter. Please accept my apologies. I can understand your reaction to that wording.
It is now deleted from the advert.
Kind regards
Andrew
Could it be about this?
Which thread is this from?
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click on the quote link and it takes you straight there ;)