Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: kris martin on May 30, 2008, 06:09:34 pm
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i have an xtel 17ft for residential, am i alright with this or do you think i should get a better pole? does it make much difference?
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nope, perfect pole, use mine all day long ;)
cheap, light ish, little when down so good for downs, possibly reach some lowish 3rd story, and pretty mush every 2nd story, what more could you ask for ;)
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i have an xtel 17ft for residential, am i alright with this or do you think i should get a better pole? does it make much difference?
I use a 17ft xtel with no probs at all, they dont last that long though.
Good pole to start out and even carry on using. not long enough for 3s houses, standard houses its fine.
Ian
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do you think i am handicapping myself by using an oval vikan or will it still do the job?
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its all ive ever used!
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its all ive ever used!
do you mean an oval brush?
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do you think i am handicapping myself by using an oval vikan or will it still do the job?
Never used one as I though oval and a rectangle window was not a good mix so I got a rectangle vikan mono
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i use this pole all the time with a vikan rectangle with 4 pencils great for domestic regards alan
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i use this pole all the time with a vikan rectangle with 4 pencils great for domestic regards alan
did you make the brush yourself ? any pics where the hoses join.
Ian
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I too would like to see a picture if poss as thinking of doing the same
Paul
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I think it's a cracking pole for everyday domestic work.
It is light. The clamps are very good and the sections are short so ground floor can be done with it no probs.
It's also sold by everyman and his dog as far as suppliers go so it's cheap :'(
Andrew
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It's brilliant.
It was a break through design because even though it is only 17' it has four sections which means that the closed length is shorter and therefore better than anything that went before. It also has thinner sections.
Take no notice of any negative comments (it does wear and break), it is the bext every day pole by far because it has the best design.
It seems so obvious and simple now, but the previous fg poles were like scaffold poles.
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And talking about design, you missed this (sorry if I go on,and sorry to off topic )
threaded. on: Yesterday at 07:38:10pm
What's available at the moment (pirtek?) is £500 plus, and there is no gurantee that this would actually work for our application.
Surely any really good company needs it's own products. To be a mere retailer leaves you open to being undercut. In our little world Alex has excelled himself with poles and you with the freedom trolley and van mounts.
What about the freedom reel though? Retailing above £300 towards £400 a reel with a 12v motor attached powered by a 12v leisure battery.
You might not think you'd sell many, but you would only need to sell one for any one else who saw it working to realise that they couldn't let another day pass without getting one.
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And talking about design, you missed this (sorry if I go on,and sorry to off topic )
threaded. on: Yesterday at 07:38:10pm
What's available at the moment (pirtek?) is £500 plus, and there is no gurantee that this would actually work for our application.
Surely any really good company needs it's own products. To be a mere retailer leaves you open to being undercut. In our little world Alex has excelled himself with poles and you with the freedom trolley and van mounts.
What about the freedom reel though? Retailing above £300 towards £400 a reel with a 12v motor attached powered by a 12v leisure battery.
You might not think you'd sell many, but you would only need to sell one for any one else who saw it working to realise that they couldn't let another day pass without getting one.
As you know i`ve tried the electric reel thing,to be honest i don`t mind reeling in by hand.It`s only when you needing all the hose out all the time that it becomes tiresome,when you think for most of the time you only need half or just over of the 100mtrs.Like isay i could see the benefit but not for most WC`s.
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I've been using it for months and it saves a great deal of work and effort. It's faster, and I'm able to earn more money while becoming less tired.
There are no issues with it other than it is a brilliant bit of kit that makes the job easier.
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What reel have you been using?
Andrew
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Most reels become difficult to use if you don`t maintain them,the spindle needs lubricating regularly.I can literally spin mine and it will reels in up to 5-mtrs with 1 spin.
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Using a standard reel take the winding handle off and use a 22m deep socket and a driver with a two speed electic drill on the lower speed. This works fine. Since then I have changed the drive over to a dog leg clutch.
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pics
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The standard bits, available from screwfix
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I did exactly the same as that only my van is neater than yours,there is a lot of strain on your wrist doing that all the time more so than reeling in manually.I to have a drill with clutch and it`s still hard work holding the drill.
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Hmmmmmmmmm food for thought here.
Thanks guys :)
Andrew
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Still no reply Discount :(
What happens when the hose tangles, wraps up, locks to plant pot or something you cant see ?
I am not knocking what you are doing just asking a question as this is what would worry me.
Ian
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I don`t care what he comes back with it`s not easier using it allday it kills your wrist.
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I don`t care what he comes back with it`s not easier using it allday it kills your wrist.
pressing a button on a drill is not hard done it loads of times all day when I had a market stall.
My points I asked are vaild ones.
NWH I am guessing you tried it, but you will be using muscle you are not used to using which is going to nag a little.
Nothing in life is easy m8
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I`ve to used a drill alday but i bet you`ve never used 1 alday in the position in which is required when using it for this purpose,if it was to be sold as an electric reel it would have to be mounted properly and easy to use ie just press a button.The electric rewind reels you can buy are simple to use and are 0% strain on your body.
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I`ve to used a drill alday but i bet you`ve never used 1 alday in the position in which is required when using it for this purpose,if it was to be sold as an electric reel it would have to be mounted properly and easy to use ie just press a button.The electric rewind reels you can buy are simple to use and are 0% strain on your body.
I am not going to argue about it as I fully understand what you say, it aint good to do allday, but yes I have drilled all day diamond drilling (little bigger than a handheld it is not good for your body but you get used to it.
now a press button startt stop could be a good idea would also need a drag on it for when it loops, twists gets caught etc.
Still no reply to my question discount please let me know.
Ian
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Everything i say, no matter how simple or how clearly explained is argued with and contradicted. I'm not geting at you ww just saying how i see it.
I've used it for months and i beleve if most normal people had a chance to use it for twenty minutes they would never wind in manually again(hand crank).
There aren't any tangling or looping issues.You don't have to believe me about this, this is just my experience.
You do have to maintain good hose disipline such as walking back to the van with your pole and hose.
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Everything i say, no matter how simple or how clearly explained is argued with and contradicted. I'm not geting at you ww just saying how i see it.
I've used it for months and i beleve if most normal people had a chance to use it for twenty minutes they would never wind in manually again(hand crank).
There aren't any tangling or looping issues.You don't have to believe me about this, this is just my experience.
You do have to maintain good hose disipline such as walking back to the van with your pole and hose.
I am going to give it try oneday just wanted to get the answer to my questions in now way am I slating you for doing it.
I tend to debate things this way I findout what I want to know ;)
If ever you feel I am getting at you I can only say sorry it is not meant in that way.
I know you are not getting at me, I feel the same as you sometimes not easy trying to help is it. Dont let it knock you down m8 I find your posts interesting I will debate something if it interests me as said. I like your positive outlook on things I find it refreshing.
Have a good weekend ;D
Ian
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emporium poles do the 4 jet brush
www.emporiumpoles.co.uk/?pages_id=830