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Title: Old pane windows
Post by: peekeclean on May 28, 2008, 08:50:32 pm
Just been asked to clean a house that has not had a window cleaner for years and the glass is not double glazed just the old panes of glass type.
how is the best way of doing these as i only ues pure water but could i use something in a bucket like TFR??

have not seen them yet but im thinking they will be bad.
any advice?

thanks joe
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: NWH on May 28, 2008, 08:51:54 pm
Hi Joe,are they sash gergions or what.
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: RPCCS on May 28, 2008, 08:56:17 pm
check out the condition of them 1st, old windows with crappy paint r a nightmare to wfp, so if the paint looks bad ,u may b better doing it trad as wfp will only spread flaky paint all over and/or leave dirty smears
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: Andrew McCann on May 28, 2008, 09:12:26 pm
<----- the house that the conservatory you can see in my avatar was a great big one with georgian sash windows. Single glazing,very cruddy, flaky paint BUT the paintwork was sound. They were absolutely covered in black old cobwebs as well in every nook and cranny.

As long as the painwork is waterproof and not oxidising (Turning to powder) you can do them with WFP however on the first clean I did them trad. They were orrible to do :(  After the first trad clean they were a breeze with WFP.  Sometimes you still have to get the ladders out if you want a particular job. I wanted that one because it paid so well but I would have dropped it if it had to be done trad every time.

Pop down to see the property and look for bare wood poking through the paintwork and test a few bits of the frames by wetting a finger or a rag and wiping the frame. If you get white marks on fingers or rag then it's probably a no go with WFP.

Regards

Andrew
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: peekeclean on May 28, 2008, 09:14:27 pm
hi nigel i think they are sash as they are old dock yard houses.
how is the slx? im thinking of getting now.

cheers joe
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: jonah on May 28, 2008, 09:16:27 pm
<----- the house that the conservatory you can see in my avatar was a great big one with georgian sash windows. Single glazing,very cruddy, flaky paint BUT the paintwork was sound. They were absolutely covered in black old cobwebs as well in every nook and cranny.

As long as the painwork is waterproof and not oxidising (Turning to powder) you can do them with WFP however on the first clean I did them trad. They were orrible to do :(  After the first trad clean they were a breeze with WFP.  Sometimes you still have to get the ladders out if you want a particular job. I wanted that one because it paid so well but I would have dropped it if it had to be done trad every time.

Pop down to see the property and look for bare wood poking through the paintwork and test a few bits of the frames by wetting a finger or a rag and wiping the frame. If you get white marks on fingers or rag then it's probably a no go with WFP.

Regards

Andrew
You must be shattered pulling that trolley ?
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: RPCCS on May 28, 2008, 09:17:59 pm
<----- the house that the conservatory you can see in my avatar was a great big one with georgian sash windows. Single glazing,very cruddy, flaky paint BUT the paintwork was sound. They were absolutely covered in black old cobwebs as well in every nook and cranny.

As long as the painwork is waterproof and not oxidising (Turning to powder) you can do them with WFP however on the first clean I did them trad. They were orrible to do :(  After the first trad clean they were a breeze with WFP.  Sometimes you still have to get the ladders out if you want a particular job. I wanted that one because it paid so well but I would have dropped it if it had to be done trad every time.

Pop down to see the property and look for bare wood poking through the paintwork and test a few bits of the frames by wetting a finger or a rag and wiping the frame. If you get white marks on fingers or rag then it's probably a no go with WFP.

Regards

Andrew
I've heard of that test Andrew its a quick way of saving yourself alot of grief and wasted time
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: Andrew McCann on May 28, 2008, 09:26:13 pm

You must be shattered pulling that trolley ?
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NOPE. Loved every minute of it and it was 3 years ago when I was young n fit  :P

Now of course the version we have had for 18 months or so is soooooooo light and easy to move you just don't notice it. Ask the thousand or so other users that have one now  ;D
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: jonah on May 28, 2008, 09:35:12 pm

You must be shattered pulling that trolley ?
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NOPE. Loved every minute of it and it was 3 years ago when I was young n fit  :P

Now of course the version we have had for 18 months or so is soooooooo light and easy to move you just don't notice it. Ask the thousand or so other users that have one now  ;D
so 3 years , you have aged a lot ?  could you send me your normal diet sheet ? I was going to buy from you , but not now , you need to take a break from selling mate !  I come on here for relaxation , not the hard sell !
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: NWH on May 28, 2008, 09:44:32 pm
Joe regardless of the condition of the paintwork they will still milk and spot in places,tell them that it will take a couple of cleans at least to get them half desent.If the frames are anywhere near looking like flaking don`t go near them and all this about licking your finger and seeing if it`s chalky is rubbish,in order to see whether they will come good they need to have plenty of water on them,that`s when you can see if there oxidising because it will look like you have milk in with your water.And if there sash i would use a mono brush and 1 that will go up underneath the top frame,you`ll need a square 1 that splays well,the salmon is not to good on these as the stock can get in the way of letting it splay,good luck and if in doubt don`t do it mate.
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: Clive McDonald on May 28, 2008, 09:49:55 pm
Things don't change much on here do they ??? ;D ;D

Look i'm pretty straight, but you can't please everyone all the time.
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: jonah on May 28, 2008, 09:57:57 pm
Sorry, I hate going to my bank to put my cheques in, and can tell she is not happy having to type at least 11 seperate numbers in ! " why dont you get a business account " ? 
Title: Re: Old pane windows
Post by: steve.ternent on May 28, 2008, 10:14:05 pm
 8) I would go and have a look!

As suggested by one post Do one window (ground floor) if it milks show the householder!
and tell her to get a trad cleaner (I always recommend one or two)

if it doesn't DO it (use lots of water)

As I told jewelcleaning
Think about it...
Do you wash your dishes in an inch of water or do you fill the bowl???  ;D
 8)