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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: CVC on May 26, 2008, 02:30:27 pm

Title: LPG Conversion
Post by: CVC on May 26, 2008, 02:30:27 pm
Hi everyone,

Its been a while since I have been on here but crap weather and rising petrol costs have made me think:

A) Can we convert our ProChem Blazer XL to LPG?
B) If so where do I go and roughly what are the costs, I may well get our Transit done at the same time.

I am in Luton but anyone know of anywhere fairly local ( Herts, Beds, Bucks) I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Dave
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: john rees on May 26, 2008, 02:53:43 pm
Hi Dave,
             I've converted my Truckmounts myself, I bought the kits from a company called edge technology power ltd. in crewe, the kits for mine are £188 with vat and postage. they only took a couple of hours to fit too! I just checked the website and they do briggs converions too.
                                     
                                       All the best
                                                         John
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: CVC on May 26, 2008, 03:21:36 pm
Thanks John. How simple are they to fit as we are about as technical as a teapot.
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: john rees on May 26, 2008, 03:46:30 pm
Hi Dave,
             Basically you take the air filter housing off, place a spacer(which has the gas pipe connected to it)and runs to a gas regulator which in turn connects to your gas supply.then put the air filter housing and filter back on using longer bolts(which they supply). then disconnect the fuel solonoid and run the feed wire to centre spade on the three way switch(which they supply also), then connect a wire from the switch on either top or bottom spade back to the solonoid, the spade you have left run to the gas solonoid on the regulator(make sure the regulator has a good earth) that way you can switch between gas or petrol as you require. The centre of the switch will be off position, and the other 2 positions will either be gas or petrol depending on where you choose to connect the gas and petrol solonoids. I just make sure I don't run out of gas though as I'm only paying 55p a litre now.

                 Hope this helps
                                         John
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: CVC on May 26, 2008, 04:00:31 pm
Thanks John, doesn't sound too hard 8). Does anyone have costings to have a fitted service??
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: john rees on May 26, 2008, 04:14:12 pm
Hi Dave,
              Chicken! ;D Alltec do them for £617 with the vat I just had a look on their website.

                      All the best
                                       John
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: CVC on May 26, 2008, 04:15:49 pm
I was dead chuffed with myself the firast time I did an oil change on the Truck Mount. Not aure if this is the next step, although I could rope my Dad in if he feels confident.
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: john rees on May 26, 2008, 04:45:31 pm
Hi Dave,
           
             I forgot to mention you get instructions with the kit too! It is easy to do though if your dad is confident enough?you can give me ring if you get stuck.

                   All the best
                                     John
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Joe H on May 26, 2008, 07:46:23 pm
John, how do you store the lpg. What do you have?
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Dave_Lee on May 26, 2008, 08:10:34 pm
Joe,
You dont store it, you just fill up at a service station that has it, unless using bottled gas.
Dave.
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Chris R on May 26, 2008, 08:50:39 pm
Edge will supply AND fit the LPG kit for you for a total of £320 inc vat

But this is using bottled gas.  Its a lot extra for a tank and external fill  >:(


www.edgetechnology.co.uk/index.htm

Having mine done in 2 weeks  :)

regards

Chris
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Joe H on May 26, 2008, 08:59:50 pm
If you use the bottled gas does this work out more expensive then filling up an onboard gas tank?
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Alan Cox on May 27, 2008, 07:56:23 am
Hi Dave, i'm guessing our chat the other day has sparked your intrest in LPG
Most of the conversion kits are for generators that run at constant speed, proper tuck mount conversion are a little more complex. All you require is available at Tinley Tech , Bourne, Cambridgeshire.
Or you could buy my van and machine already done!

Call me if you want more info.

Alan Cox
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: john rees on May 27, 2008, 01:35:12 pm
Hi Joe,
          I just use a 47k gas bottle and that holds about 73 litres and I now pay £40 for a bottle and it works out at about .55p a litre so If you have the space in the van it is more cost effective to use a gas bottle than pay a couple of hundred £'s for a gas tank and maybe save a few pennies a litre, it would take forever to recoup the cost of the tank.                                                                                                                                                                              The kits I have are not designed only to run at a constant speed at all, they are fully controllable by using the throttle just as you would when using petrol.each kit is designed for a specific engine and is a proper kit, there is no need for anything more complicated. 
                                                                                                                                                                                     Quite a few people think you have to start the engine on petrol and then switch over to to gas when running but this really isn't the case you can start and run on gas just as you can on petrol.

                         All the best
                                          John
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Joe H on May 27, 2008, 02:01:49 pm
Thanks John
Been to the websitte of Edge Technology and the kit for my B&S 18hp Vanguard engine is about £145 inc VAT - dont seem a bad price for a cleaner greener engine and cheaper fuel as the big bonus.
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: john rees on May 27, 2008, 03:08:30 pm
Hi Joe,
          you will probably find it will cost a little bit more because you will need the remote start type for a truckmount, mine was 188 all in with vat and postage, they will explain it to you when you ring them.

                           all the best
                                             John
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: JS2 on June 07, 2008, 08:00:07 pm
Folks

Anyone actually running the main vehicle (van-size) )on LPG ?  Any comments appreciated.

Pete (JS2)
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Fintan_Coll on June 07, 2008, 10:24:29 pm
Are there any Insurance implications in carrying a tank of lpg on board the van.
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 07, 2008, 10:49:34 pm
Although I'm not 100% sure Hydramaster and Alltec would have checked this out they are both professional companies.

Shaun
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Dave_Lee on June 08, 2008, 06:48:04 pm
If you already have insurance to cover both van and TM there shouldnt be any problem, there wasnt with mine, but you have to inform them. You should also inform your insuance company that covers yor van, if you have any TM installed, LPG or other, even if you dont want cover extended for the TM. It is classed as a conversion and your van wont be covered if you dont inform them.
Dave.
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: Barry Livingstone on June 20, 2008, 09:27:38 pm
this may be a stupid question can you not run a TM on red D....? thats cheaper ?
Title: Re: LPG Conversion
Post by: david washbrook on June 20, 2008, 09:42:01 pm
if its a diesel yes if its petrol then no ;D