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Title: What is going on with the Diesel prices.
Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 22, 2008, 12:00:02 am
I saw a 128.9p today, can anyone tell me why the prices are going up and up and up? I started this job, and the price was under a pound, that was like 1,5 year a go?!

I just don't understand it, surely there must be loads and loads of reserves everywhere??
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Post by: mr D on May 22, 2008, 12:02:24 am
they have but silly barstools keep it all in iran!!
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Post by: jonah on May 22, 2008, 12:04:16 am
I believe its going to hit £2 a litre at end of year !   Diesel is only good now if you are doing over 30k a year .
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Post by: mr D on May 22, 2008, 01:17:24 am
hay jonah i saw that water adver you did tonight. man you can move!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) 8) 8)
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Post by: pingu on May 22, 2008, 06:50:20 am
Make biodiesel been doing it for years.....use it as a mix for normal diesel and most vech will be fine with it...
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Post by: Sanity on May 22, 2008, 07:26:37 am
pingu, Would love to do it, but my calculations on the cost work out that it would cost nearly 90p a litre to make biodiesel anyhow, so not much saved.  Is this the case, or can it be done cheaper?
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Post by: windowwashers on May 22, 2008, 07:27:40 am
pingu, Would love to do it, but my calculations on the cost work out that it would cost nearly 90p a litre to make biodiesel anyhow, so not much saved.  Is this the case, or can it be done cheaper?

thats 35p a litre cheaper at the mo thats £7 a day saving
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Post by: john tomkins on May 22, 2008, 08:41:00 am
I saw a 128.9p today, can anyone tell me why the prices are going up and up and up? I started this job, and the price was under a pound, that was like 1,5 year a go?!


Looking back through my diesel receipts it was 99.9p/ltr on the 5 Nov 07 so thats not even 7 months ago ???
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Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 22, 2008, 09:54:05 am
£133.9 here!! Luke
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Post by: Scrimble on May 22, 2008, 11:34:27 am
haha 47p litre here for lpg for my van! nearly a 3rd of the price of diesel,
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Post by: JSMC on May 22, 2008, 12:15:19 pm
what van do you have?
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Post by: steve.ternent on May 22, 2008, 12:50:55 pm
I saw a 128.9p today, can anyone tell me why the prices are going up and up and up? I started this job, and the price was under a pound, that was like 1,5 year a go?!

I just don't understand it, surely there must be loads and loads of reserves everywhere??

 >:( It is disgusting "Pure greed" by the Government!  >:(

We were all told to "Go Green"

Hundreds of thousands move over to Diesel from petrol... Reward more expensive  >:(

It's called "supply and demand" I call it criminal  >:(

£127.9 a lt here (and thats the cheapest in town... you can add 2-5p on that at others!)
 Daylight robbery!  :o  :o  :o
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Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 22, 2008, 01:23:57 pm
what van do you have?

I have a '97 Citroen Berlingo, bout 47mpg.
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Post by: JSMC on May 22, 2008, 02:00:12 pm
what system is in that ? tank size etc
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Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 22, 2008, 02:52:48 pm
what system is in that ? tank size etc

400l with purefreedom tank cage.
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Post by: JSMC on May 22, 2008, 03:11:24 pm
you have any pics of the cage and how much space at either side?
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Post by: Helen on May 22, 2008, 03:54:42 pm
I saw a 128.9p today, can anyone tell me why the prices are going up and up and up? I started this job, and the price was under a pound, that was like 1,5 year a go?!

I just don't understand it, surely there must be loads and loads of reserves everywhere??

Regular rises are here to stay for at least the next 8 years  :( according to some minister speaking on the radio. Opec are refusing to produce more fuel and that is the main cause of the fuel increases.....ho hum, in for a bumpy ride for all businesses this year >:(
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Post by: pjulk on May 22, 2008, 05:03:37 pm
The price's of fuel are going mad and 75% of that goes straight to the goverment in tax.
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Post by: elite mike on May 22, 2008, 05:16:30 pm
ime starting to look at electric vehicles  :D  :D
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Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 22, 2008, 05:21:37 pm
you have any pics of the cage and how much space at either side?

I'll take one later.
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Post by: steve m on May 22, 2008, 05:26:13 pm
its not so much the production companies, its the government putting high duties on fuel. for every £10:00 you put in the tank £8:00 goes to the government
Title: Re: What is going on with the Diesel prices.
Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 06:07:06 pm
haha 47p litre here for lpg for my van! nearly a 3rd of the price of diesel,
My neighbour has a Berlingo powered by LPG and he says it makes the vehicle a bit sluggish , do you find that?
Title: Re: What is going on with the Diesel prices.
Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 06:15:10 pm
I don't run a diesel car at the mo, but my next one will have to be as I need a more powerful car for towing the caravan,but don't want a bigger petrol motor as it has to be a work vehicle too.
The cost of fuel and running a vehicle in this country is scandalous, I'm all for another fuel tax protest, if 1 was organised I'd certainly go along and join. They're not finished yet either, its going up again in autumn, by xmas it'll be £12/gallon
Title: Re: What is going on with the Diesel prices.
Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 22, 2008, 06:25:28 pm
haha 47p litre here for lpg for my van! nearly a 3rd of the price of diesel,
My neighbour has a Berlingo powered by LPG and he says it makes the vehicle a bit sluggish , do you find that?

Far less torque then diesel, also BHP is lower.
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Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 06:36:06 pm
haha 47p litre here for lpg for my van! nearly a 3rd of the price of diesel,
My neighbour has a Berlingo powered by LPG and he says it makes the vehicle a bit sluggish , do you find that?

Far less torque then diesel, also BHP is lower.
Is the lack of power compensated by the cheap cost and is lpg as economical as diesel?
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Post by: NWH on May 22, 2008, 06:39:29 pm
You wait and see once all us blokes convert to LPG all of a sudden they`ll be some sort of gas shortage and the prats at westminster will jump on that bandwagon.
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Post by: dai on May 22, 2008, 07:19:38 pm
$135 a barrel, why should they produce more, produce less than the demand = higher prices.
We are being screwed by OPEC. They can afford to leave it in the ground knowing that the price can only get higher.
I can see the time coming, when the Yanks will want to go in and take their oil off them. Oh forgot, already tried that.

The 40p per mile option has worked well for me over the last four years, but the time is coming fast where I will have to switch back to claiming the actual expense.
When was that 40p mileage allowance last changed?
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Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 07:27:38 pm
You wait and see once all us blokes convert to LPG all of a sudden they`ll be some sort of gas shortage and the prats at westminster will jump on that bandwagon.
Doesn't matter what fuel we use they will screw the average motorist as much as possible .U r right lpg will be next, followed by bio diesel followed by electric vehicles. Both tory and labour will penalise the motorist every time
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Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 07:30:17 pm
What's this 40p/mile allowance?
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Post by: dai on May 22, 2008, 08:22:58 pm
What's this 40p/mile allowance?
The 40p per mile option, is that the tax man will allow you 40p for every mile you do, and allow it against your tax. If you go for this option you can't claim any other vehicle expenses.
So' if you did 50 miles a day, the first £20 of your earnings are tax free.
If you ran an older small van, and it was reliable, you could be quids in if you did the mileage.
Unfortunately, the 40p per mile has not changed in years, whilst the cost of road tax, fuel etc has rocketed.
Title: Re: What is going on with the Diesel prices.
Post by: Sanity on May 22, 2008, 08:27:42 pm
www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/viability.php

Might be worth a punt at making biodiesel for my local community (and gotta be grants / money from the governemtn to do so too I would imagine)
The profit on biodiesel if ya charge £0.95 a litre is huge!!!!!
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Post by: ronaldo on May 22, 2008, 08:41:58 pm
Just run on red and dont worry about it, if you get caught you pay the fine end of story.

Ask yourself this, in the the last 10 years how many times have you been stopped and had your tank dipped ??????????

You fills your tank you takes your chances and i aint going to lose any sleep over it.
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Post by: Scrimble on May 22, 2008, 09:00:06 pm
haha 47p litre here for lpg for my van! nearly a 3rd of the price of diesel,
My neighbour has a Berlingo powered by LPG and he says it makes the vehicle a bit sluggish , do you find that?


i have a duel fuel 03 astra van, 20 quid of gas does about 330ish miles so its a hell of a lot cheaper to run than a diesel, its nealry a third of the price of diesel!!!

there is no difference in power at all when running on gas compared to petrol in my van its plenty powerfull enough, i'm never going to buy a diesel again my last diesel van was a load of poop ran it on bio diesel which cost 90p litre and i had no end of problems blocked filters knackered injectors made it run like crap from cold, had a cloud of smoke following the van all the time and it smelt like crap i was embarressed of it.

best thing i ever did was buy a lpg van, its far cheaper to run, more reliable and just soo much better!
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Post by: windowwashers on May 22, 2008, 09:04:58 pm
haha 47p litre here for lpg for my van! nearly a 3rd of the price of diesel,
My neighbour has a Berlingo powered by LPG and he says it makes the vehicle a bit sluggish , do you find that?


i have a duel fuel 03 astra van, 20 quid of gas does about 330ish miles so its a hell of a lot cheaper to run than a diesel, its nealry a third of the price of diesel!!!

there is no difference in power at all when running on gas compared to petrol in my van its plenty powerfull enough, i'm never going to buy a diesel again my last diesel van was a load of poop ran it on bio diesel which cost 90p litre and i had no end of problems blocked filters knackered injectors made it run like crap from cold, had a cloud of smoke following the van all the time and it smelt like crap i was embarressed of it.

best thing i ever did was buy a lpg van, its far cheaper to run, more reliable and just soo much better!
are there many places to get lpg ? I have never noticed it
Title: Re: What is going on with the Diesel prices.
Post by: Scrimble on May 22, 2008, 09:05:06 pm
www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/viability.php

Might be worth a punt at making biodiesel for my local community (and gotta be grants / money from the governemtn to do so too I would imagine)
The profit on biodiesel if ya charge £0.95 a litre is huge!!!!!

there is a place up the road from me which sells bio for 90p litre, they have a bad reputation though was in local paper that a lot of people were having engine problems running the stuff, most people wont touch the crap because of it
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Post by: Scrimble on May 22, 2008, 09:07:38 pm

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are there many places to get lpg ? I have never noticed it
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there are websites where you can search for places near you, where i live there are 4 within about 10 miles, cheapest is 47p litre, i just fill the tank about once a week
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Post by: LWC on May 22, 2008, 09:13:43 pm
sorry if youve said, what van you got mark?
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Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 09:15:55 pm
did you buy the van pre-converted with the lpg or did you have it fitted yourself? if the latter how much did it cost? I have 2 lpg suppliers within a 5 mile radius of me.
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Post by: Scrimble on May 22, 2008, 09:17:05 pm
i have a 2003 duel fuel astra van 1.6, its all factory fitted not an after market conversion, i bought it about a month ago for £3400
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Post by: LWC on May 22, 2008, 09:23:04 pm
hmmm, i wonder what its like in big vans though
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Post by: niceandclean on May 22, 2008, 09:28:31 pm
hmmm, i wonder what its like in big vans though

Friend had a transit duel fuel, was in the garage more times than on the road. The garage done him a deal on a diesel in the end. Think Ford have stopped making duel fuel, might be wrong though?
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Post by: RPCCS on May 22, 2008, 09:34:00 pm
I think I'll do some digging into lpg conversions ,fancy a 2.0 mondeo and convert to lpg
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Post by: Balvindaa on May 23, 2008, 04:28:08 pm
Hi Guys
             I share your feelings. Please check out these websites
                www.waterpoweredcar.com
                 www.runyourcaronwater.com
                  www.water4gas.com
 Please let me apologise if I don't reply promptly I'm working every hour God sends. I havnt bought or fitted this system yet but if things continue as they are I shall have no choice.

   Thanking you in advance
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Post by: Xline Systems on May 23, 2008, 04:41:35 pm
putting all my work up next month to cover diesel expences. need to as now my diesel bill is well over a hundred pounds a week. not happy! do have understanding custys though so hopefuly things will go to plan. not put them up for 3 years anyway so think there well overdue. ;D