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Title: r/o problems
Post by: cvdewsbury on May 20, 2008, 09:35:08 pm
I have just installed a r/o 100gpd (from r/o man) into my garage....

what my problem is...... the waste pipe that comes from the membrane has a steady flow of water to the drain

The pipe which takes the pure water to my static tank from the membrane drips in....resulting in aprox 150 ltrs of pure water been produced in the last 3 days.

My water pressure from my main feed is fine  and the flush valve is switched off,has anyone ideas as to what my problem is ...thanks in advance...young p*ssed off scrimmer.
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: alanwilson on May 20, 2008, 09:39:40 pm
problem number 1 - 100gpd ro is far far far too small.
problem number 2 - you need very high water pressure for the smaller ro's to function correctly (over 60psi)


how long did you flush the ro membrane for and are you sure you haven't just left the flush valveopen instead of closing it?
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: Peter Fogwill on May 20, 2008, 09:44:06 pm
I have just installed a r/o 100gpd (from r/o man) into my garage....

what my problem is...... the waste pipe that comes from the membrane has a steady flow of water to the drain

The pipe which takes the pure water to my static tank from the membrane drips in....resulting in aprox 150 ltrs of pure water been produced in the last 3 days.

My water pressure from my main feed is fine  and the flush valve is switched off,has anyone ideas as to what my problem is ...thanks in advance...young p*ssed off scrimmer.

You say your water pressure is fine, what is it?  Good chance the water pressure is not good enough.  It will purify the water, but the production will be slow.  Get yourself a booster pump.

Peter
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: alanwilson on May 20, 2008, 09:45:39 pm
get yourself a merlin or 4040.

those smaller ro's are a waste of money.
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: cvdewsbury on May 20, 2008, 09:52:46 pm
get yourself a merlin or 4040.

those smaller ro's are a waste of money.

my usage at present is only 65o/700 ltrs per month thats why I went for the smaller one....My water presure is fine as only have recentley had a new feed put in and it blasts out of all the taps in my house.... but on saying that on the pressure gauge on the membrane housing its reading 35!!

Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: alanwilson on May 20, 2008, 09:57:48 pm
too low - what does it read if you turn the flush valve the other way?

Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: Peter Fogwill on May 20, 2008, 10:06:07 pm
With a booster pump you will probably get around 300L per day, and when you need more water later on you can add another membrane.

Peter
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: cvdewsbury on May 20, 2008, 10:07:26 pm
too low - what does it read if you turn the flush valve the other way?



just turned it the other way and the pressure is still reading the same  3o
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: d s windowcleaning on May 20, 2008, 10:11:52 pm
a booster pump and fit a extra membrane will increase the production rate if you look on ro man web site it shows you how to upgrade your system .
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: cvdewsbury on May 20, 2008, 10:17:34 pm
With a booster pump you will probably get around 300L per day, and when you need more water later on you can add another membrane.

Peter
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thanks for your help to date I will struggle along till tomorrow then contact r/o man or get my plumber back in again
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: simonwonder on May 20, 2008, 11:29:51 pm
hi cv
i could have a solution to your problem a 300 gall per day r/o and a booster pump i need to sell
call me on 07792174438ask for simon if you are interested
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: Jon-scwindows on May 21, 2008, 02:49:01 am
how much do you want for the 300gpd and booster simon? please email scwcs@aol.com
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: karygate on May 21, 2008, 07:22:33 am
i have a 100gpd unit and it produces 150 litres every 24hours off 55 p.s.i. if that helps and i need to upgrade soon.
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: windowwashers on May 21, 2008, 07:34:23 am
i have a 100gpd unit and it produces 150 litres every 24hours off 55 p.s.i. if that helps and i need to upgrade soon.
I guess you dont use much water :o
I am making nearly double that an hour with a 4040 i'm not bragging I am just shocked that it can take 24 hours to make so little water.

Ian
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: karygate on May 21, 2008, 08:06:34 am
its on 24/7 and use about 900 litres a week so far . approx 100 customers.
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: TERRY AB on May 21, 2008, 05:04:05 pm
I have just installed a r/o 100gpd (from r/o man) into my garage....

what my problem is...... the waste pipe that comes from the membrane has a steady flow of water to the drain

The pipe which takes the pure water to my static tank from the membrane drips in....resulting in aprox 150 ltrs of pure water been produced in the last 3 days.

My water pressure from my main feed is fine  and the flush valve is switched off,has anyone ideas as to what my problem is ...thanks in advance...young p*ssed off scrimmer.
I helped a mate with a similiar problem (was a 300 GPD unit), put a valve on the waste water outout hose and restricted the amount of wastage being exited, check the ratio of waste to pure water and measure the TDS value, when your pure water ratio is approx 50/50 and the TDS value is acceptable (i.e. between 0 and 30) then leave it that way. Other than getting a booster pump or upgrading this is the only way to get a reasonable flow rate. Just make sure you do a good and long backwash.
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: Ian Lancaster on May 21, 2008, 05:16:44 pm
too low - what does it read if you turn the flush valve the other way?



just turned it the other way and the pressure is still reading the same  3o

There's your problem.

With the flush valve open all the water goes to waste so there's no pressure at the membrane.  With the valve shut about a third of the water goes through the membrane and the pressure guage will show an increase.

The valve is k*******d
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: clean on May 21, 2008, 05:20:52 pm
i know this doesn`t answer your question BUT Why do people bother with these small RO units? you can get a 300gpd for about £120 and even the Merlin is only about £250,i produce 600L in about 5 and half hours with my merlin  ;)
Title: Re: r/o problems
Post by: alanwilson on May 21, 2008, 06:20:43 pm
exactly clean - just had a look on ro-man, a 100gpd ro is £130

a merlin is £282 from ro-man but I'm sure you can buy it for less elsewhere.

I know you still need to buy a di vessel etc after but come on guys, this is your business, your livelihood.