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Title: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Dave Turley on May 20, 2008, 09:12:29 pm
i'm thinking of running my scudo overweight short term.

does anyone know if you get a fine or points or whatever for getting caught?

thanks
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Andrew McCann on May 20, 2008, 09:35:17 pm
Taken from a website:

Trading Standards and the police enforce the laws relating to overloaded vehicles.

You can break the law if:

you carry a heavier load than your vehicle is designed to hold, or you have an uneven load causing one (or more) of the axles to bear too much weight. Most vehicles are fitted with a data plate which specifies the load they can safely carry. Don't forget to allow for the additional weight of the driver and passengers.

Are You the driver?
Do you know that you are liable to prosecution if you drive an overloaded vehicle?

The legislation imposes fines of up to £5,000 for each offence; that is each overloaded axle plus any overloading on total weight. These fines can be imposed on you. It is not just your employer and/or the owner of the vehicle who may be liable. There is every possibility that if an overload is detected you will be prosecuted. You may also get 3 penalty points on your drivers licence.

Regards

Andrew
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: alanwilson on May 20, 2008, 09:41:13 pm
dave I would strongly advise against running overweight.

dangerous and as andrew has pointed out can be punished very severely.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Dave Turley on May 20, 2008, 09:44:23 pm
ok thanks a lot...
bad idea! forgot it already!
 ;D
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: stu_thomson on May 20, 2008, 09:48:06 pm
Dave I cant believe you just said you are thinking of running your van overweight, the law is there for a reason! brakes, steering etc do not react as well, you will be a danger on the road, you may as well just say i think im going to drink drive tonight!!
 A couple of years back i unknowingly drove someones truck overweight i was stopped read the riot act was told all the reasons why not to overload and cautioned as it was my 1st offence, next time they will throw the book at me, i think the fines run into thousands so DONT DO IT!!

stu
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Bobs Window Cleaning on May 20, 2008, 09:49:11 pm
Lookout, there is a pensioner from Grimsby on here ;D
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: LWC on May 20, 2008, 09:51:07 pm
ah do it, you wont get court
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: LWC on May 20, 2008, 09:51:24 pm
im joking by the way
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Kev R on May 20, 2008, 09:53:48 pm
One of the local window cleaners vehicles had an accident a few weeks ago. It crashed for no apparent reason, just left the road on a bend. It transpires it was overweight. The police were interested (dont know the outcome yet) and their insurance is invalid.  Its not worth it is it?
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: paulscotney on May 20, 2008, 09:58:01 pm
A friend of mine in a Ford P100 got fined £600,  about 10 years ago on the motorway. Overloaded with slabs I think.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Dave Turley on May 20, 2008, 10:11:16 pm
ok you've all convinced me....

I ain't gonna do it....

honest!
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Andrew McCann on May 20, 2008, 10:16:26 pm
Lookout, there is a pensioner from Grimsby on here ;D


<------------------  Where?   ;D
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: paulscotney on May 20, 2008, 10:43:07 pm
I couldn't be botherered with the hassle myself but someone did have the idea of a dump mechanism in case of a problem. Don't know how it would work.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: windowwashers on May 20, 2008, 10:43:55 pm
I couldn't be botherered with the hassle myself but someone did have the idea of a dump mechanism in case of a problem. Don't know how it would work.
water all over the floor  ;D
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: paulscotney on May 20, 2008, 10:46:41 pm
that is obvious!!
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 20, 2008, 10:48:37 pm
I couldn't be botherered with the hassle myself but someone did have the idea of a dump mechanism in case of a problem. Don't know how it would work.

Solenoid operating a tap on the side of the tank to a hose through the floor - used from the drivers seat.

Scene:-

Police Officer: Follow me to the DoT weighbridge as I reckon you're overloaded.
You:- Yes officer, (hitting switch) right away officer! Dither about and lose water which stops when you hit the switch again.

Of course this would be totally wrong and not contemplated unless you are a complete muppet!
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Kev R on May 20, 2008, 10:54:47 pm
I couldn't be botherered with the hassle myself but someone did have the idea of a dump mechanism in case of a problem. Don't know how it would work.

Solenoid operating a tap on the side of the tank to a hose through the floor - used from the drivers seat.

Scene:-

Police Officer: Follow me to the DoT weighbridge as I reckon you're overloaded.
You:- Yes officer, (hitting switch) right away officer! Dither about and lose water which stops when you hit the switch again.

Of course this would be totally wrong and not contemplated unless you are a complete muppet!

Of course you may as well fit rotating number plates, rotor blades and ask James Bond if he fancies a job window cleaning at this point.. LOL  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: paulscotney on May 20, 2008, 11:00:45 pm
I only suggested that there had been a previous post. I have no need to do this type of thing and if I did I wouldn't have discussed it on here. I know a couple of good mechanics, who would no doubt know how to do it.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Tom Mac on May 20, 2008, 11:02:35 pm
Dave Turley, Senior member, Thats  what it says. More like complete plonker. What a stupid question to pose. What's next.

Thinkoing of gowin wfp. not shur eefeye kneed a ro unit. vu whater taste goood eeer.

Mr Turley, if you posed a real question then you are a real plonk, hand cuff yourself and go straight to jail before i take you there myself.

What a plank
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: *foxman on May 20, 2008, 11:43:03 pm
i'm thinking of running my scudo overweight short term.

does anyone know if you get a fine or points or whatever for getting caught?

thanks

You'll get a slap on the wrists and maybe a £30 fine. Someone i know got pull and taken to a weighbridge and this was the result less than 3 months ago.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: tomy jackson on May 21, 2008, 05:03:23 pm
big fine & three ponts & thers no way youd get £30 fine so i reckon sumbody telling prokys
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: dd on May 21, 2008, 07:07:36 pm
A lot of people advise against it but from the posts I've read about vans and tank sizes I think quite a few are overweight without realising it.

I have 900 payload van with a 600l tank, took it to a weighbridge full and I was right on the limit. To be safe we should all get checked on a public weighbridge.
Ignorance is seen as no excuse for breaking the law.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Clive McDonald on May 21, 2008, 07:50:18 pm
Trust you to introduce an air of reality Foxman,

This forum can be a bit judgemental at times.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Kev R on May 21, 2008, 08:55:33 pm
Overloaded vans dont brake as they should... why not think of that the next time your kids are playing in the street.  Save a few quid and throw safety and common sense out the window? Window cleaners have a reputation for being thick probably due to stupid posts like this and the people that think running overloaded is Ok.  :-[
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: paulscotney on May 21, 2008, 09:25:04 pm
I have a HGV 1 and I know that overloading is treated very very  seriously, no way £30 and 3 points.
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: steve m on May 21, 2008, 09:37:39 pm
probably put another two zero's on that £30
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: groundhog on May 21, 2008, 11:28:08 pm
Dave Turley, Senior member, Thats  what it says. More like complete plonker. What a stupid question to pose. What's next.

Thinkoing of gowin wfp. not shur eefeye kneed a ro unit. vu whater taste goood eeer.

Mr Turley, if you posed a real question then you are a real plonk, hand cuff yourself and go straight to jail before i take you there myself.

What a plank

Theres no such thing as a stupid question! But your post + spelling is the most stupid that I have ever seen on this forum!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: penalty for being overloaded?
Post by: Dave Turley on May 22, 2008, 07:44:31 am
armadillo....

that was a bit harsh don't you think, considering i've said twice that i'm not gonna do it?

that said, the bit about taking myself to jail was funny.

it was just an idea that popped into my head and I posted the question before i'd even thought about it too much.

i've advertised with the yellow pages for the first time this year (nice 45mm ad) and if I get a good response, especially on commercials i will struggle with my 525 litres.

I've had a much better idea now though...

I have an onboard merlin for topping up at good psi houses. if I do get to a point where i'm struggng for water, even with my merlin, I could just get another merlin, or a 4040 or similar as well/instead of for super-fast production  while I work.

much cheaper than getting a new, bigger van

thanks to all for your comments  :)