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Title: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 05:29:28 pm
Been looking around one of these Vans, but i thought i would ask you guys who own them what you all think, i have a  52 peugeot expert at the moment , but would prefer something a bit bigger, room, comfort and a little more power.

Cheers.

Gary.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jaykie on May 17, 2008, 05:36:34 pm
i got a 52 reg trafic and love it, 3 seats so can take kids,just like driving a car but higher up, room in back for 650 liter tank, 2 reels 4 poles, and trad gear, also got a a frame ladder in back too.

Chris
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 05:46:10 pm
i got a 52 reg trafic and love it, 3 seats so can take kids,just like driving a car but higher up, room in back for 650 liter tank, 2 reels 4 poles, and trad gear, also got a a frame ladder in back too.

Chris
Gary Im looking for a van too, I called in at van master in bradford other day .  He said the vivaro engine isnt the best !  He said they have a tendancy to go wrong , even the newer ones - His words not mine  ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 05:53:44 pm
thanks all.

i too have heard that Jonah, are the other two engines the same ?  traffic and primaster, as i do like the vans...and as jayke said, one or two people have also said they are like driving a car.... also my poles and gear would be in more comfort :)
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 06:03:21 pm
thanks all.

i too have heard that Jonah, are the other two engines the same ?  traffic and primaster, as i do like the vans...and as jayke said, one or two people have also said they are like driving a car.... also my poles and gear would be in more comfort :)
  Van masters phone number is = 01274 728139 .  we were there an hour , and he gave some really good advice about best vans . He has a movano in at moment on a 03 plate for 3 n half k ! 
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: steve a on May 17, 2008, 06:05:56 pm
I think it is the gearbox not the engine which is at fault, more precisely the clutch cylinder leaks, i believe, causing problems with clutch judder and iffey gear change, the cylinder is in the gearbox bell housing.

I do occasionally get judder in 2nd gear.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Rob_Mac on May 17, 2008, 06:08:44 pm
Gazza

Ive got an 07 reg Movano - probably better than any van I have ever driven - and we have 3 others, Transit, Sprinter and Astra.

High top I can stand up in the back - 7 foot head height.

Very comfortable drive - good looking van

Rob ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 08:46:11 pm
thanks m.. and everyone..

sounds a nice van.. is it ok for general work, as it does seem large but im not criticising it.... would be nice to walk around though inside  ;)

do all the vivaros/primaster/and traffic have the same problems or is it just the vivaro?

anyone?
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 08:50:38 pm
thanks m.. and everyone..

sounds a nice van.. is it ok for general work, as it does seem large but im not criticising it.... would be nice to walk around though inside  ;)

do all the vivaros/primaster/and traffic have the same problems or is it just the vivaro?

anyone?
Garry only thing putting me off getting one is the size !  I am rubbish at parking , and live in a terrace lol . Spoke to a few people who have them , and they are all happy with em  ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jaykie on May 17, 2008, 08:51:06 pm
Apparently its all 3 before the 53 plate i think, but i took the risk and bought one
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 08:55:01 pm
cheers i really like the look of vivaro... over a transit say... some say a ducato, are ok too.. its hard,
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jaykie on May 17, 2008, 08:56:08 pm
you wont regret buying one if you get the right one.

Chris
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 08:56:34 pm
I am looking at getting new van on lease or hire thingy , trouble is after my divorce I got a bad credit rating , so dont know the best option ( hint ) to go for  ;D .  
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 08:58:40 pm
Man at van masters said for the money ldv is the best !   Ugly yes , but they have a transit engine  ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 09:02:15 pm
That should not matter too much these days, but having said that after all the money the banks have given/loaned freely over the past ten years seems to be over so it may be more difficult later this year.

which are the best. vivaro/ traffic or primaster...

i have an expert.. and people say there is a difference mechanically between that and the scudo and dispatch.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 09:03:22 pm
Man at van masters said for the money ldv is the best ! Ugly yes , but they have a transit engine ;D

yes they are ugly and i once borrowed one .. it gobbled fuel and pulled like an old lady.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: NWH on May 17, 2008, 09:07:15 pm
If you buy a new 1 really push for extras,things are slow at the moment and the sales staff know this.The prices on the screens and in the mags mean nothing these days,shop around for purchase lease or hire,i hate those a-hole salesman.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 09:11:45 pm
Man at van masters said for the money ldv is the best ! Ugly yes , but they have a transit engine ;D

yes they are ugly and i once borrowed one .. it gobbled fuel and pulled like an old lady.
Gary I did a poll on here about vans , and wfp , you need to work out how much water you are going to use , then get a vauxhaull movano ( I have spent many hours , asking many people ) . Just my opinion , but it will give you a bit of room to expand your tank  ;D . By the way would be good to have a gossip with you seeing as you are local  ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 09:20:22 pm
lol. good idea .. i have a 650 tank which is mainly for comfort... so i dont have to fill it constantly... having said that i am nearly at full stretch now... so using plenty... hence all my employment questions for the near future.

i dont want to sit sill, nor do i want to do the whole thing myself for the rest of my life... as soon as i can afford i will employ and free myself up to build/split ..build/split

anyway thats a different topic.... i do go on dont i? ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 17, 2008, 10:00:59 pm
lol. good idea .. i have a 650 tank which is mainly for comfort... so i dont have to fill it constantly... having said that i am nearly at full stretch now... so using plenty... hence all my employment questions for the near future.

i dont want to sit sill, nor do i want to do the whole thing myself for the rest of my life... as soon as i can afford i will employ and free myself up to build/split ..build/split

anyway thats a different topic.... i do go on dont i? ;D
Yes you do go on  ;D.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Highrise on May 17, 2008, 11:24:57 pm
i have got a trafic and i would segest u contact Van dircet...

nice van, We have a 800 lte tank in a Lwb tRAFIC..

BIT PI$$ NOW , but got van
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 17, 2008, 11:26:00 pm
lolthink we all are ;D
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Clive McDonald on May 17, 2008, 11:36:01 pm
How much are they?

I got a scudo because I thought it would be easier to park (it is) and I already had a ducato with my other business( two large vans on the drive as well a my little fiat brava)
Now with a 400l tank gone by twelve i wish i'd gone vivaro.

Could I get my suspension uprated to take a heavier tank? How much might it be?
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: NWH on May 17, 2008, 11:47:48 pm
How much are they?

I got a scudo because I thought it would be easier to park (it is) and I already had a ducato with my other business( two large vans on the drive as well a my little fiat brava)
Now with a 400l tank gone by twelve i wish i'd gone vivaro.

Could I get my suspension uprated to take a heavier tank? How much might it be?
It will be cheaper if you buy the kit and get your local man to do it for you,just buy the uprated suspesion kit,if it were me i would change vans.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jaykie on May 18, 2008, 06:49:47 am
Mate of mine has scudo with 1000 liter tank as uprated suspension,  but i prefer my trafic.

Chris
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Rob_Mac on May 18, 2008, 07:49:56 am
For thos e ;Dof you that are not used to driving large vans - my Movano has reversing sensors - don't know if this is standard.

Rob
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jonah on May 18, 2008, 08:42:35 am
For thos e ;Dof you that are not used to driving large vans - my Movano has reversing sensors - don't know if this is standard.

Rob
I normally just wait wait for the crunching noise when im reversing lol !
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Dave Turley on May 18, 2008, 09:32:06 am
hiya!

I have a scudo with 525 litres (400 upright + 125 upright) and would also like a vivaro or similar.

I took it on a weighbridge the other week and it was 50kg overweight first thing in the morning!

the 2.0 jtd max overall weight should be 2330kg and mine was 2380kg.

that fella who's got 1000 litre tank must be dangerously overloaded, No matter what springs he's got!

and where does he put everything else???   :o
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: jaykie on May 18, 2008, 09:43:03 am
The suspension doesnt even lower, he has 2 hoselock reels 3 poles and ladder, few trad bits too but compared to what i can carry its not a lot

Chris
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 18, 2008, 10:14:07 am
thanks m.. and everyone..

sounds a nice van.. is it ok for general work, as it does seem large but im not criticising it.... would be nice to walk around though inside  ;)

do all the vivaros/primaster/and traffic have the same problems or is it just the vivaro?

anyone?

My Trafic needed a new gearbox at 39,000 miles (03 plate).  I'm told it's a big problem with therse vans.  I understand it was rectified around the 55 plate.  I just wish manufacturers would be more open about these things.  I would like a central database that can outline any faults on any vehicle so you can see which vehicles are prone to which problems at what mileage.  There would be a slot for manufacturers to state what they had done about these problems.  At the moment it is just word of mouth.
Such a database could be compiled now we have the internet.  I wouldn't expect it to be manufacturer led though.

Just moving on from that thought for a moment, it would be possible to have a website where vehicle users can supply details of which vehicle they have and which parts required changing at particular mileages.  No need for individual identification either.  Surely someone must have tried this already as I'm not exactly an original thinker.  The only drawback could be rival manufacturers posting poor details about other manufacturers' vehicles.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: rugby on May 18, 2008, 10:28:05 am
been useing a movano  mwb for the last two years,great vans to drive,so much so that the larger size of the van is no problem at all,very very easy to drive.

the down side is the gear box,i thought i was lucky with mine untill recently,started haveing trouble getting into first gear,ive got a feeling a big bill could be on the way  :'(
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 18, 2008, 02:55:48 pm
Thanks.... i think i will gain a little more info on these vans and look around a while... transits seem another option but there are lots of different types.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Ian Rochester on May 18, 2008, 08:37:39 pm
Just bought a Trafic LL29 LWB as part of a package with a 650ltr Thermopure system fitted, (see my other thread).

So far not really used it other than driving it up from Huddersfield, but it drove really well, very easy and comfortable, nice driving position and plenty of power.  Just had it serviced and MOT'd and it passed no bother (rear brake pads and wiper blades!)
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Paul Coleman on May 18, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
Thanks.... i think i will gain a little more info on these vans and look around a while... transits seem another option but there are lots of different types.

If you do end up going for a trafic/vivaro/primastar, I suggest you go for the 2.9 tonne version (most are 2.7).
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: Wrekin C S on May 18, 2008, 10:51:02 pm
I have a transit mwb high roof - bit slow but reliable and roomy  ;)
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: alan andrewswestsi on May 19, 2008, 03:34:19 pm
had an 03 vivaro  since september and the only problem i,ve had is the immobiliser had to be replaced which i believe is a common problem , very nice to drive and i would buy one again regards alan
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: NWH on May 19, 2008, 04:34:39 pm
The suspension doesnt even lower, he has 2 hoselock reels 3 poles and ladder, few trad bits too but compared to what i can carry its not a lot

Chris
That van is seriously over loaded,if he`s telling you it`s legal he must think your stupid.
Title: Re: Owners of Vivaro/traffic/primaster
Post by: geefree on May 19, 2008, 08:25:31 pm
thanks for all your comments. and help.... ;)