Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Captain Scarlet on May 17, 2008, 03:44:50 pm
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Well I've got a complicated first clean coming up thats really filthy and needs a good brush and Ive always wanted to try a Tucker brush because they are much lighter than the Vikans and supposedly the best brushes available for Window Cleaning and it needs to go on my Super-lite 2.....but they arent made to fit a standard thread, so I converted it with a strong threaded plate off an outdoor broom, 2 washers ( used to set the jets in place and space them so they dont stick out into the bristles ), araldyte and a jet set ( chose Gardiners jets because they are tiny and light ).
They are very expensive brushes and with vat and postage nearly came to £50. But if it does a good job it will be well worth it. The brush I used was a dual trim 12 inch Tucker. Here is the finished product:
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(http://lh5.ggpht.com/rupertthehair/SC7titDMpKI/AAAAAAAABLA/qbKvpURwPeQ/IMG_3071.JPG?imgmax=512)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/rupertthehair/SC7tnNDMpLI/AAAAAAAABJs/x5Sd04YXoNw/IMG_3072.JPG?imgmax=512)
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Done a nice job there! What are the bristles like?
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I havent used it yet but the bristles feel quality and there are loads of happy users of Tucker brushes. It splays nicely when held to a flat surface and the inner shorter bristles look like they will scrub well, Luke
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Where you get the brush from was it direct
Chris
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Yes direct from Aquafactors ( Tucker UK ) I considered getting one from the USA, but it works out a similar price so there was no point, Luke
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Very good mate, would try myself but id probs mess up, going to get sl2 myself just need to get rid of one pole 1st
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Very good mate, would try myself but id probs mess up, going to get sl2 myself just need to get rid of one pole 1st
The only downfall to the SL2 at this moment ( until Gardiner release their new brush ) is the Bentley brush on it, Its fine for normal cleans but for really dirty stuff it doesnt cut it.
Thats why I converted the Tucker ( couldnt wait for my 2 Gardiner brushes on order to be manufactured!!! ) because its lighter than a Vikan, Luke
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Very good £50 well spent in my opinion, tucker brush is the best out there and its good tht someone has finally converted one 8)
regards
Brett
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I did one last year so easy to do like Luke has used a broom socket,just screws on
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I wanted to convert one ages ago and have posted the simple principle of doing it a few times ( its easy!! ) but never really needed one until now, Luke
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I did one last year so easy to do like Luke has used a broom socket,just screws on
to save weight and to prevent damage to the bristle staples I just used araldyte on mine, Luke
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For those who dont know. The holes already in the Tucker are not made for jets but to mount it to its original gooseneck, but it makes a perfect place to put the jets, Luke
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I did one last year so easy to do like Luke has used a broom socket,just screws on
to save weight and to prevent damage to the bristle staples I just used araldyte on mine, Luke
4 little aluminum screws won`t make any difference
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I just didnt want to damage the staples and the Araldyte is brilliant, Luke
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cant tucker supply one straight from manufacturer without the holes in
Chris
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cant tucker supply one straight from manufacturer without the holes in
The holes are ideal for the jets though, its allows you to convert it easily.
Ive just used the brush to clean my house now......well what can I say, its fantastic. Lighter and far far far better than any brush I have used before. Its softer than the Vikan mono so its splays nicer and makes cleaning so much easier!! Its miles better than the Ionics dual trim too, Luke
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I think I have found the perfect combination for WFP. Just two poles for everything, the SL-X and SL2 along with the Tucker brush!! Luke
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Well done Luke. I think you might have a point,
The 17' xtel takes some beating though because it is lighter cheaper to replace and shorter.
As you say the superlite brush is hopeless, except for gutters where it's lightness is good. I think I will copy you with the Tucker.
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The 17' xtel takes some beating though because it is lighter cheaper to replace and shorter.
Discount Ive got 2 17ft xtels, I no longer use one myself. But it cant compete with the SL-X. For a start its not as long overall, and only slightly shorter when closed. They are both nearly the same weight ( even though the SL-X is a 25ft pole )....true the xtel is cheaper to replace but in my opinion it doesnt matter.
As you say the superlite brush is hopeless, except for gutters where it's lightness is good. I think I will copy you with the Tucker.
Yes, it just isnt good enough, But Gardiners will soon release their new brushes ( have ordered 2 ) but until then I will use my Tucker!!! You should have fun converting one!!! Having just used the Tucker to clean my house I have to say its the best brush I have ever used, it also helped me work quicker. But it will get its true test on the big first clean on Monday, Luke
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I did the same as that Luke about 6 months ago,i did it with a 9" .The price they ask for them brushes is a joke,there a good brush but not £50 good.If you look through the replacment parts section on some websites the actual brush is listed as a spare part and can be bought for £12 yes that`s £12,the price does not always reflect the quality of the product,yes there a good brush that is only designed to work with either there gooseneck or an ionic pole but the brush is not the best i`ve used.With that brush not cleaning the frames isn`t an option,the bristles are soft and will splay all over the frame making you have to clean frames every time which is not always needed,saying all that you have made a good job of converting it.
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Well done Luke. I think you might have a point,
The 17' xtel takes some beating though because it is lighter cheaper to replace and shorter.
As you say the superlite brush is hopeless, except for gutters where it's lightness is good. I think I will copy you with the Tucker.
False economy & you of all people should know that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony
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I did the same as that Luke about 6 months ago,i did it with a 9" .The price they ask for them brushes is a joke,there a good brush but not £50 good.If you look through the replacment parts section on some websites the actual brush is listed as a spare part and can be bought for £12 yes that`s £12,the price does not always reflect the quality of the product,yes there a good brush that is only designed to work with either there gooseneck or an ionic pole but the brush is not the best i`ve used.With that brush not cleaning the frames isn`t an option,the bristles are soft and will splay all over the frame making you have to clean frames every time which is not always needed,saying all that you have made a good job of converting it.
Good info, no good for me then! ;)
Tony
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It makes me laugh when i hear people say there cheap to replace if they break,if someone told me that it would give me the impression there rubbish and i wouldn`t buy 1 in the first place.You want to hear that it`s a robust product that will out last the cheap rubbish,buy less spend a bit more in the first place.
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It makes me laugh when i hear people say there cheap to replace if they break,if someone told me that it would give me the impression there rubbish and i wouldn`t buy 1 in the first place.You want to hear that it`s a robust product that will out last the cheap rubbish,buy less spend a bit more in the first place.
Hear, hear, my thoughts exactly but, as i was once told by a very wise man- you can't educate pork & all that! ;)
Tony
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Oink oink lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Lets be honest about the 17ft Extel pole,it`s cheap yes it is but i wouldn`t say it was good.
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Yeah right oh me old part timer,the best solution would be to buy a quailty pole and cut it down to make it useable for ups and downs.Removable sections have been around for a while now,have you heard of a company called facelift lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I wanted to convert one ages ago and have posted the simple principle of doing it a few times ( its easy!! ) but never really needed one until now, Luke
Rupert,
Any chance you could briefly describe how you did this im gonna get my tucker brush on my slx tomo now that i have seen that it looks the nuts.
Where did you source the brush thread from that looks fairly light and robust and whats araldite?
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I beleive Alex awaits delivery of the new concept slx extension, Haven't a clue how he's done it,or where he got the idea from,only that it was something I did put forward here on a pole wish list.
Pole design, electric reels, hot systems, hitting all the numbers like a fairground bell. Poor me eh?
I'm going to delete these so as not to clutter lukes thread
You must be a rich man if your the first man to think about putting water through a boiler,what are you doing cleaning window`s.The reason why people don`t want to go down the diy hot route is because it looks bodged and untidy,actually a bit like your van.
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got any pics of your £ 12 brush and where from like an address or website plz Edd
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Lets be honest about the 17ft Extel pole,it`s cheap yes it is but i wouldn`t say it was good.
does the job on normal 2 up 2 down no probs, fully extended a little like spaghetti when part boiled can snap and little bendy in places ;)
Ian
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Lets be honest about the 17ft Extel pole,it`s cheap yes it is but i wouldn`t say it was good.
fully extended a little like spaghetti when part boiled can snap and little bendy in places ;)
Ian
who sounds drunk tonight Ian? ;D
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For those who dont know. The holes already in the Tucker are not made for jets but to mount it to its original gooseneck, but it makes a perfect place to put the jets, Luke
They are for both. The jets screw into the gooseneck assembly and water is fed through the gooseneck to the jets.
Great idea converting the brush. It is about time we had better brushes available to use on the standard poles. The Tucker brush is the best I have used but IMO the Tucker jets are much to weak (too big, producing too weak a jet of water to rinse well with brush off) which makes converting one an even better idea.
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(too big, producing too weak a jet of water to rinse well with brush off) which makes converting one an even better
You can reduce the size of the jets on the tucker pole as i did a year or so ago after macc showed me how and it worked a treat but i have had too many unpleasant memories with the tucker pole and have moved over to the slx and put my ionics brush on which is the nuts. the tucker is by far the best brush around and worth every penny.
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I did the same as that Luke about 6 months ago,i did it with a 9" .The price they ask for them brushes is a joke,there a good brush but not £50 good.If you look through the replacment parts section on some websites the actual brush is listed as a spare part and can be bought for £12 yes that`s £12,the price does not always reflect the quality of the product,yes there a good brush that is only designed to work with either there gooseneck or an ionic pole but the brush is not the best i`ve used.With that brush not cleaning the frames isn`t an option,the bristles are soft and will splay all over the frame making you have to clean frames every time which is not always needed,saying all that you have made a good job of converting it.
NWH, Are you sure its a Tucker as Omnipole, Unger, Carbonized and Ettore all make brushes that appear to be identical to Tuckers? All white, similar bristles, same stock with two holes in the same place.
The only 9inch Tucker is an Awning brush
Unger sell a 10 inch brush nearly identical
Unger
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Omnipole
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Carbonized
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Did it have the Tucker Pole Systems stickers? I could just be wrong though but it doesnt sound like a Tucker, Luke
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DUDEK
Rupert,
Any chance you could briefly describe how you did this im gonna get my tucker brush on my slx tomo now that i have seen that it looks the nuts.
Where did you source the brush thread from that looks fairly light and robust and whats araldite?
In reply to your question:
You will need the following items:
1x Tucker brush of your choice from Aquafactors ( i used a 12inch dual trim )
1x Outdoor broom with a thread plate like on mine. I used a Harris outdoor broom
4x 20mm outer diameter washers with a 6mm internal diameter
2x 2mm jets from Gardiner pole systems
1x y piece from Gardiner pole systems
1x pvc hose from Gardiner pole systems
1x Quck set Araldite glue from any hardware shop
1. Remove the thread plate
2. Glue it to the Tucker ( measure to be accurate )
3. Glue washers together. A pair with 2 stuck together
4. Glue the pair of washers above the holes on the Tucker brush, right in the centre
5. Glue the 2mm jets into the wahsers centre hole, hold it in place while it sets with blu-tac
6. Let to dry for an hour
7. Attach pvc hose by heating it and carefully putting it on
8. Attach y piece
9. Have fun
Luke
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Well Ive completed my 14hr first clean....yes 14hrs, and thats with 5 men!!!! started at 4 this morning!
The Tucker brush was AMAZING. On all the windows that were Tuckered, they came up better. The place was filthy but the Tucker did just fine, it was black at the end of it!!! Luke
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Here is the Tucker after its hard day!!!
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The brush i got was a Tucker brush,it had the stickers on aswell Luke i paid the same as you and later sourced it for £12 as a spare part which is what it is.It dosen`t need to come as a complete brush assembly ie jets gooseneck etc,they class the brush as a replacement item therefore on the website it`s listed as a spare part.
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PLEASE PLEASE, tell me where you got it for £12!!! I want to buy another right away! Luke
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I too just bought the brush, alone without any extras, just the bristles and stock, Luke
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I will try try and find it Luke the website has about 5 sub headings to get to it,beleive me they don`t want you to find it.Do you honestly think that brush is worth £50,like i say i`ll try to find it and like i say the stock and bristle part of it is listed as a spare-replacement part.
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could you give some searching clues so I can have a go at the same time finding it? Luke
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Any news NWH?
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Ok after using the Tucker more here is my Overview:
1. It weighs less than a Vikan, just over 100g lighter
2. It has superior cleaning ability on both frames and glass. And I believe that for every scrub done with the Tucker, two are needed with a Vikan to give an equal clean.
3. It retains less water within its bristles, keeping itself light and not clogging with dirt and dirty water
4. for higher work its great, because it more readily splays, it means if you are cleaning at different angles regularly and dont have a swivel this brush is great!!
5. It has more glass coverage than any other brush I have used of a similar size:
stock width of Vikan: 27cm
stock width of Tucker: 27.4cm
fully splayed width of Vikan: 32cm
fully splayed width of Tucker: 36.5cm
stock height of Vikan: 6.7cm
stock height of Tucker: 5.8cm
fully splayed height of Vikan: 14cm
fully splayed height of Tucker: 16.5cm
bristle depth of Vikan: 5.2cm
brislte depth of Tucker 6.2cm
Note: the Vikan had to be held very hard against a flat surface to gain its maximum splay measurments, in reality it would have alot less. While the Tucker didnt need so much pressure.
So basically, it weighs less than a Vikan, covers more glass and does a better job IMO
I compared it against a Vikan because this is what the majority use and know. Its also far better than the Ionic Multipole brush, Bentley, Flocked Oval Vikan, Flocked Rectangular and of course the Mono Rectangular Vikan. Im yet to compare it to the Addis and I may be purchasing a Carbontec brush ( the one that looks identical to the Tucker by Unger )
Hope this helps, Luke
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When i did my brush i used bolt jets ie ionic or Tucker,it`s so much easier to convert the brush if you make the jetting part simple.Your only problem then is glueing the thread on which should be the easy bit.I`m going to do a 12" but i`ve trawled through my favorites and havn`t come up trumps yet on the cheap way to buy it, out of principle i aint paying £50.Not only have i got to find the site there is about 5 sub headings to go through aswell.
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So did you buy your 9inch for £12? do you remember if it was in UK, or USA or elsewhere? Luke
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I got it from this country and i will make it my lifes work to dig out the receipt so i know where,i paid about 4o odd quid for it + delivery and it worked out at nearly £50.When i first jetted it i used a bently backing plate to drill through for jets and to hold the brush,as you know the thread on that plate is perfect and the plate is very light,next time i will use the same method as you Luke only i`ll use bolt jets.The jets i have are from an old Tucker brush and are very light and about the same diameter as the 2mm brass ones,with the bolt jets you have no fear of them coming out or lose as you bolt them down from the top of the stock it`s the best way of jetting if you ask me only if the bristles have been cut for them otherwise forget them,you`ll only get this setup with the bristles on a ionic brush or a Tucker one.
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Where can I buy them jets? Ionic, Luke
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Ionic or Tucker,look in the back of the ionic brochure if you have 1.The code for them is P0026,if they don`t come with bolts let me know i have loads of them that fit perfect with washers.There £3.25.
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Ive got the catalogue, Ill have a look, Luke
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The Unger version of this Tucker brush is quicker on the glass for gliding but only on easy maintenance cleans. It's also far too soft and splays too much IMO. It doesn't shift stubborn dirt one fifth as easy (hot or cold) use.
Stick with the Tucker brush you have and save wasting your money on the Unger version.
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so did anyone find out if the omnipole brush is a tucker?
I want one but like NWH I won't pay £50 for a brush head out of principle.
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bump
anyone know?
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please someone is bound to know.
Glyn - is the brush a Tucker brush?
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I just brought this topic back up for Kev R who want to know how to convert a Tucker, Luke
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oh and I did a small change to the brush I added 4 small aluminium screws, but be careful when drilling your pilot holes that they go between bristle tufts, Luke
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Looks like the £12 brush never was ???
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I`m glad this thread has been dug up again,i`ve just got back in from the van after converting my 12" Tucker brush.You will require 2 x bolts jets or ionic + superglue + thread plate of some sort ie off of a broom that will take a standard size plastic gooseneck.
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I`m glad this thread has been dug up again,i`ve just got back in from the van after converting my 12" Tucker brush.You will require 2 x bolts jets or ionic + superglue + thread plate of some sort ie off of a broom that will take a standard size plastic gooseneck.
Why did you convert it in your van ? would a garage/lock up type area not be a little easier to work in m8 :-\
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It took me 10 mins to do,i did it while i was changing some hose connecters,your nosey arn`t you lol. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I just brought this topic back up for Kev R who want to know how to convert a Tucker, Luke
Thanks Luke ;)
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Would this be the brush thats talked about in thsi thread?
www.jracenstein.com/store/Itemdesc.asp?ic=66%2D424&eq=&Tp=
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Luke, can you please let me know the exact weight in grammes of the Tucker your using? You said it's over 100g lighter then the Vikan, but how much? :)
Thank you.
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Tim my vans in the garage with my Tucker brush until monday or tuesday but until then and I can give it a proper weight:
Ok after using the Tucker more here is my Overview:
1. It weighs less than a Vikan, just over 100g lighter
2. It has superior cleaning ability on both frames and glass. And I believe that for every scrub done with the Tucker, two are needed with a Vikan to give an equal clean.
3. It retains less water within its bristles, keeping itself light and not clogging with dirt and dirty water
4. for higher work its great, because it more readily splays, it means if you are cleaning at different angles regularly and dont have a swivel this brush is great!!
5. It has more glass coverage than any other brush I have used of a similar size:
stock width of Vikan: 27cm
stock width of Tucker: 27.4cm
fully splayed width of Vikan: 32cm
fully splayed width of Tucker: 36.5cm
stock height of Vikan: 6.7cm
stock height of Tucker: 5.8cm
fully splayed height of Vikan: 14cm
fully splayed height of Tucker: 16.5cm
bristle depth of Vikan: 5.2cm
brislte depth of Tucker 6.2cm
Note: the Vikan had to be held very hard against a flat surface to gain its maximum splay measurments, in reality it would have alot less. While the Tucker didnt need so much pressure.
So basically, it weighs less than a Vikan, covers more glass and does a better job IMO
I compared it against a Vikan because this is what the majority use and know. Its also far better than the Ionic Multipole brush, Bentley, Flocked Oval Vikan, Flocked Rectangular and of course the Mono Rectangular Vikan. Im yet to compare it to the Addis and I may be purchasing a Carbontec brush ( the one that looks identical to the Tucker by Unger )
Hope this helps, Luke
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ive got my brush , i just need a white or black brush bracket,where's the best place to buy one ?
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ive got my brush , i just need a white or black brush bracket,where's the best place to buy one ?
Do you have a new Gardiner brush.
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NWH can you explain how you fitted your jets to your converted brush please.?
Matt
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Buy 2 bolt jets first of all,they have a thread on them which pokes through the top of the brush.Go to B&Q with the jets and by a packet of bolts and washers that fit the thread on the bolt jet,simply screw the nut down over the thread of the bolt jet this will secure the jet to the stock of the brush.
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Ta.
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i have an omnipole/tucker brush
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My converted Tucker brush with a swivel from hillbrush after modifying the swivel to accept the jets.
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cool, does it help alot? luke
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The swivels do. Less moving around to clean the windows :) I'll never work without swivels, too much effort. :)
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Have you managed to weigh the Tucker yet Luke?
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Thats some serious amount of loose hose in your van Wayne Thomas.
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luke - is it one of these you bought
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Thats some serious amount of loose hose in your van Wayne Thomas.
That's not loose hose, it's attached to 4 poles :) I do a lot of Balcony work 4,3,2,1 stories up and ride up in a lift, throw my 5mm bright yellow hose over the balconies connecting back to van mount and work my way down to the ground as it beats using a backpack. Trolley is no use because there isn't the access for one.
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luke - is it one of these you bought
Steve, what's the web address for the swivel one in your pic?
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Take off the plate from a superlite brush it`s far neater and easier to do,even with just that plastic that Waynes using your adding loads of weight to the brush it might not seem like it but you are.
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Take off the plate from a superlite brush it`s far neater and easier to do,even with just that plastic that Waynes using your adding loads of weight to the brush it might not seem like it but you are.
That's the easy way to convert a Tucker but there's no swivel on it and it's totally rubbish without a swivel. Much quicker & easier with a decent swivel, try for yourself and you wouldn't go back to using a brush without one if you're competent with it ;D
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ive got a swivel that fits a standard thread but never got INTO using it, Luke
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Luke can you put a piccy up of your jets on your converted brush please.
Matt
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Luke has done a similar job to me only i used bolt jets,i`ve tried swivels before and never again it might come in handy once a week above a roof other than that no thanks.
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im not a swivel fan either, ive got acouple of them, but it makes the cleaning process feel flimsy
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There just not needed,if you want to bugger up your wrists get a swivel.
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i dont understand the point in using them all the time either, they never saved me a moments time, infact they slowed me down, Luke
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There just not needed,if you want to bugger up your wrists get a swivel.
The swivels that are sold on 2 websites commonly used are absolute rubbish-too stiff and defeats the object of using swivels to make life easier. I am a chronic arthritic sufferer and the swivels have made life easier on my wrists , not harder. I totally disagree with your statement NWH, sorry :)
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Fair enough Wayne we all do what is easier for us as individuals,what suits 1 might not suit another but i wouldn`t recommend a swivel to a newbie.
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You need two movements with any decent swivel the first movement should be a torquable up and down one and the second the left to right elevation as in Lukes pic. Pity nobody makes them - yet.
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Tucker have made a swivel for their brushes. It swivels vertically and can be locked into a fixed position. It should be on sale about now. I won't buy it as it doesn't swivel horizontally.
The one I use doesn't need any pressure to change the angle as it's free spinning. The only thing that restricts the movement is the length of hose from angle adaptor (pole hose is a purposely tight fit) to the brush to prevent maximum movement. It has about a 20 degree vertical movement allowance when it's worn a bit (after a month of use), which makes it ideal for getting in under the top frame of sash windows for new cleans.
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thought id bring this back after the conversation about the gardiners brush
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Thanks rwc. The Tucker is yet to be beaten in my opinion! the sl brush really is great but the Tucker is a step futher, having both is good
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tbink the pics should be put back up, I would be willing to host the pics if needbe
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Ill re host them tonight!!!
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RUPERT a ? what does this brush look like nearly a year later is it trashed or still working
give us the latest pics please EDD
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I think im going to give this ago.
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V8EDD, no point taking new pictures ( and beside, my very expensive camera has just broken out of guarantee !! ) as the brush is still as new, just a little scuffed on the stock, the bristles are perfect!!
so heres the old pics:
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looks very similar to my supalite single trim, from alex 8)
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if you held them in the flesh, youd see there both VERY different brushes, i have both. The Tucker is a superior brush
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I think im going to give this ago.
ye, do. You wont regret it, but the brush is a bit pricey, but it will last twice as long if not more than a super-lite brush
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it will last twice as long if not more than a super-lite brush
Just curious, what are you basing that on?
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the sl stock has worn to the bristles now! and theyre falling out gradually. i havent lost a single filament with the Tucker, dont get me wrong, you know I like and use the sl brushes, but the Tucker is my fave!!
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Operator error - obviously rubbing the stock down the walled edges. ::)
thats how mine has worn
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but this is going to happen, the brush should be able to deal with it, and I know Alex likes feedback on his products!
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but this is going to happen, the brush should be able to deal with it, and I know Alex likes feedback on his products!
If this is where the stock is wearing and subsequently bristles falling out we have already addressed this (based on previous feedback) and increased the stock overhang at the sides of the brush by 2mm each side - this was introduced a couple of months ago.
Are there any other issues that I would benefit from knowing about? You can always email me photos if it helps explain it.
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my camera literally broke yesterday, but when i have it repaired or replaced ill send a pic! Um, well I still think the brush should have more height ( look at pic ). I realise this adds to the weight, but the brush has less angle spectrum as it stands than the tucker.
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You mean more depth like an extra row or two of bristles?
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What i would like to try would be the normal superlight brush with the standard outside bristles but the shorter ones very stiff like a scrubbing brush. Have you tried this Alex?
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You mean more depth like an extra row or two of bristles?
yes
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my camera literally broke yesterday, but when i have it repaired or replaced ill send a pic! Um, well I still think the brush should have more height ( look at pic ). I realise this adds to the weight, but the brush has less angle spectrum as it stands than the tucker.
Not quite sure what the picture is!
We have considered making the brush stock wider Perhaps 10mm deeper, however it is a constant balancing act to keep the weight low. Our original aim was to make the worlds lightest WFP brush which we feel we have achieved. Obviously we also wanted to make it as effective as possible, which we are also quite happy with, but there is always room for fine tuning.
What i would like to try would be the normal superlight brush with the standard outside bristles but the shorter ones very stiff like a scrubbing brush. Have you tried this Alex?
Interesting thought. Following feedback we will be making the inner row of bristles on the mono-filament dual-trim slightly longer (5mm) so that they come into play slightly sooner when scrubbing.
As has been said before I am really interested in feedback on brushes as I can often learn from others experience.
Rupert - out of interest have you tried the Flocked Super-Lite brush?
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i can honestly say the flocked supa lit is by far the best brush i have used, the perfect brush would have bristles along bottom edge so sills could be cleaned easier, maybe this woud be possible with an extra 2inch stock with bristles fastened at a right angle at bottom of brush but dont know whether the extra weight would be justified.
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Alex,
Advantage of Tucker over sl flocked is the Tucker is mono-filament. So better scrubbing ability without brush holding onto dirt particles.
I know the sl is designed to be light but I think many of us would prefer a better brush and have it a bit heavier. Not everyone cleans high level regualarly. Most of my work is reached with 18 foot pole so weight of brush not so much of an issue.
I sometimes use a 30 foot tucker pole all day for flats and have never found weight of brush a problem at that height, though above 3/4 storey can imagine it would be.
Why not bring out a heavier brush for relatively low level work, but pretty please with Tucker style bristles.
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Alex,
Advantage of Tucker over sl flocked is the Tucker is mono-filament. So better scrubbing ability without brush holding onto dirt particles.
I know the sl is designed to be light but I think many of us would prefer a better brush and have it a bit heavier. Not everyone cleans high level regualarly. Most of my work is reached with 18 foot pole so weight of brush not so much of an issue.
I sometimes use a 30 foot tucker pole all day for flats and have never found weight of brush a problem at that height, though above 3/4 storey can imagine it would be.
Why not bring out a heavier brush for relatively low level work, but pretty please with Tucker style bristles.
Thanks for the feedback from everyone, I'll take it all on board.
We do sell a mono-filament version of the SL which is actually my favourite although we sell more of the flocked version.
A version with Tucker style bristles is completely possible as we can basically fit whatever bristles we want in the stocks.
If we build a heavier version we will have to re-name it the Super-Liteish brush :D
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Alex,
Advantage of Tucker over sl flocked is the Tucker is mono-filament. So better scrubbing ability without brush holding onto dirt particles.
I know the sl is designed to be light but I think many of us would prefer a better brush and have it a bit heavier. Not everyone cleans high level regualarly. Most of my work is reached with 18 foot pole so weight of brush not so much of an issue.
I sometimes use a 30 foot tucker pole all day for flats and have never found weight of brush a problem at that height, though above 3/4 storey can imagine it would be.
Why not bring out a heavier brush for relatively low level work, but pretty please with Tucker style bristles.
i like a light brush at any level, eg i have a bently brush which i have trimmed down
which makes alexes brush seem heavy,
dont get me wrong i like alexes brush, but pound for pound, bently is brilliant
must try the tucker
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Out of curiosity Alex, have you ever viewed an SL brush through a window when its pressed up against a pane of glass; as if you're the customer. I think you might be surprised to see how easily the shorter bristles on a dual-trim come into play.
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I think im going to give this ago.
ye, do. You wont regret it, but the brush is a bit pricey, but it will last twice as long if not more than a super-lite brush
I don`t agree with that i have some superlite brushes and there`s no sign of wear at all 4mths in,Tuckers are good but they are not as good at directing where you want it to go compared to the SL brushes,there not as light either.
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I have a single trim and a dual trim Superlight brush. There is NO sign of wear at all,.. except for some distortion due to using them with really hot water for a conservatory clean. I think the balance of weight/scrubbing power is spot on, and the only reason I'd even consider another brush is if it could handle the heat better.
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i need to put a pic up of my sl brushes to show the wear then
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I'm resurrecting this old thread, as I've just got my hands on an 18" DT tucker brush.
It looks very nice, really dense bristles compared to the SL brushes.
There is an aluminium plate on the back of it,.. is it really necessary, or can I get rid of it to save weight?
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The aluminium plate is only on the 18" to stop it flexing,and not the 12".If you are going to cut it down to 12" the you won't need the plate.
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I was thinking of cutting it down all right,.. even without the plate its 505 grams!
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If you cut it down to the size of a match box so it weighs the same as a Gardiners Superlite,you'll be all day doing one set of patio doors! Now i know why my arms are like Popeyes!
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The SL brushes i find are better than the Tuckers they are loads lighter and are far easier to work with on the glass,i spent a fortune on brushes over the years until Gardiners came up with this brush i find them to be perfect for WFP.The only thing i think Alex could do would be to try and pack a few more bristles in the stock but apart from that it`s spot on with all 3 types flocked dual single trim.
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I have to say that as much as i hate saying it but after using a ionics brush today this was the best id used so far.
Chris
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which ionic brush the dual trim black brush or the white one with the black bristles
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it was dual with white stock.
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I have to say that as much as i hate saying it but after using a ionics brush today this was the best id used so far.
Chris
I converted a white stocked Ionic brush like the Tucker and i found the Ionic 1 better to use as it glided across the glass better although it was still heavy compared to the SL brush.
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This is the 1 i did.
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I have to say that as much as i hate saying it but after using a ionics brush today this was the best id used so far.
Chris
I converted a white stocked Ionic brush like the Tucker and i found the Ionic 1 better to use as it glided across the glass better although it was still heavy compared to the SL brush.
I done a 4 storey block and used the ionics brush (4 hours) and have to say it made the job a breeze and it really felt like it was cleaning the glass with little effort, i want to convertone for my facelift 44foot.
Chris
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The superlite is an excellent brush, all it needs to be perfect is a really good swivel.
I hate working without a swivel and still use the Stanley paint pad conversion daily.
A good swivel has to be right on the stock, and as Jeff said in an ideal world the brush angle needs a
lockable adjuster. An angle adapter just doesn't cut it for me, most of mine have too much side to side play, and I want zero flexibility apart from the swivel itself.
A good swivel gives you the option to use your brush on it's side for narrow panes, and all at a flick of the wrist. Anyone that doesn't like swivels has never used a good one.
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NHW I to love the ionic brush 2 be honest cant really say which is best except the ionic brush is heavier
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Anyone that doesn't like swivels has never used a good one.
coming soon ;)
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Anyone that doesn't like swivels has never used a good one.
coming soon ;)
Very interested, can you tell more? I don't like these plastic white swivels, too flimsey, I need something that's part of the stock.
If you want to you can send me an email. :)