Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steve Chapman on May 16, 2008, 01:05:51 pm
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Hi all,
picked up a riso machine on ebay for £50 and just wondered whether if any of you use these regularly to produce leaflets etc and what's the best type of master to use.
i've run several attempts and often they come out very dark and some smudgy!?
Also it shows you can reproduce photos, obviously in black but i would imagine this would be quite difficult to get good quality?
Is just more bold text the best way to go ?
would appreciate any comments from those that use such a machine
cheers
steve
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Ian Harper is the man to speak to. I've kept an eye out on ebay and they seem to go for 3-5 hundred so you got a bargain. How many copies/masters?
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Mike,
its got 37,000 masters and 2 million copies on the clocks, so its done a fair few but was told it was only half way through its life so thought it was a good deal.
it all seems to work fine, just need to understand how to use it properly to get the best out of it!
it came with an additional new bottle of ink and roll of master paper as well so made it even better :)
After being used to a normal printer i was amazed at how fast the machine is, ideal if you want to knock out 1000 leaflets very quickly.
cheers
steve
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Steve I have a Riso CR1610, a great machine, prints 120 A4 copies a minute.
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Steve
For that money it's worth a punt. You might get a million out of it without trouble.
I like the idea that you can just change one thing and really test 2 versions of a leaflet.
Blue is the colour apparently.
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Paul
Do you have a cheap source of A4. I was wondering what the breakeven is with one of these machines compared to say using printcarrier.
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Usually you use Riso Masters you shuld find a good price on ebay
I think they are designed to produce 2 million to 3 million copies.
I had the use of one but to keep them going they need to be used regularly.
If you do not the Ink flow blocks causing terminal problems
Personally i think you should have got one for about £350 with less use you can get ones that have done 500K but you do need to have a trial run before you hand your cash over.
Repair costs are about £100 a visit but if ink flow is restricted it could be a problem
In the past 7 years we have sent three to the knackers yard
When working they produce copies fast
Picture reproduction can be good on newer models but requires skill If you are doing a decent size photo we found it better to run the paper through just doing the photo sepratley as it requred a diffrent setting
Ok to a head picture small in standard print run
You can get manuals on ebay
Paper jams can be a problem
We buy Colour paper from Viking but A4 white from wilkinson £1.99 a ream
Tried Tesco £1.79 but it jams. We have also used Vikings white depending whats available in the shops.
If you want two colour or a diffrent Clour print you need a diffrent drum
To get Two colour you run red through first and then black
On the 15k machines you can do it in one go
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I bought some A4 from morrisons at about £1.75, it works fine in my laser printer. It's obviously not high white but is fine for leaflets.
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Nice summary Ian,
i went for the cheap riso , (its the tr1510) as i wasnt sure how much i would use it, but to be honest it seems a decent machine and is printing well, have just realised that you can adjust the scanning contrast and mine was well up high and printing really dark, have readjusted it and is producing much cleaner copies now :D
I was finding whenever i had leaflets made up i wanted to change them or found they were not working well before they ran out, i still have 10,000 of the last lot, but really did not like them so haven't bothered using, at least this way i can change them at will and not have any waste!
Am trying to jiggle about a bit to reproduce a decent photo, but i think this may be asking a bit much :P
regards
steve
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If its working you got a good buy
Stick to small face photo.
Works good on Pink Flyer or letter type leaflet
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Just picked up a Riso today. Engineer went through everything with me and even got some extra ink and master roll thrown in.
They sell quite a lot of old Risos on ebay and are really professional.
MURODIGITAL
Weston super Mare.
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Nice one Mike,
I'm getting on with mine fairly well now after tinkering with it for a while, definitley the way to go to produce cheap leaflets for yourself!
I had a good idea today ( i dont get many ;D ) to print on the reverse side of some leaflets i had made up some time ago with a special offer etc, it means i can get some use out of the leaflets but add something extra to get the customer to bite. & the beauty is i can change it as many times i like
I had 10, 000 left over so has to be worth a go,
hope you get plenty of use out of it !
the only problem i'm getting is to find someone reliable enough to deliver them, who dont want £10 an hour ::)
regards
steve
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Steve,
Glad you are getting on with it, I can't believe how quick they fire out copies ;D
Good idea about on the back, with my laser printer I do a batch then localise the back with testimonials from the same area.
Mike
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I've been faffing for the last hour to get a half dcent image on my leaflets. What setting do you guys use. It's a CR1610.
I'm not expecting anything amazing it's just there's very little contrast on any setting, text fine.
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Mike, why not ring your supplier. Been on their website and they seem a helpul crew.
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Joe,
They are helpful. One lady there is a good Client of mine, but is suggesting a maintenance and support contract which I'd like to avoid.
The other is a potential Client and is the service engineer if you get my drift. ;) Unfortunately I have lost his mobile number already (which was in the manual) ::)
No probs, I will cal them tomorrow.
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Steve
This is the best value money you will ever spend. They take some getting used to but they are worth every penny. I spent many thousands on photocopiers over the years and compared with a riso they just can’t match them.
Forget photos. Use large text in place. As you have found out older riso can’t give poor quality on a photo. This just means you having to think a little more about layout and how you use your headlines and subs headlines.
If you really want to make a riso work look out for a paper folding machine that will do A3 then if you use any leaflet destitution companies the smaller leaflets will go inside your a3
Respect
Ian Harper
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Ian
It was on the back of some of your threads I opted for a Riso as I think Steve has done so thanks.
I have seen pink flyers with far better pics, unless they have better dpi.
Anyway just knocked out 2x250. ones got a marginal before and after pic, the other all text.
Cheers
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Mike
To get a quarter decent photo you need to run photo through machine first on a diffrent setting to the text.
All you will get is a reasonable face shot small,
Newer Riso have improved
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Ian
Thanks for that and I read your post a few back which I missed.
Cheers
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Mike,
it might be a good idea to clean the scanner glass as mine had lots of bits on it and was producing poor copies, but once cleaned was a great improvement, also you may need to play around with the contrast, i had mine too dark and was producing smudgy copies, but it seems lighter is better,
i dont think you will get really good photos on it, so more text is prob best
regards
steve
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Joe,
They are helpful. One lady there is a good Client of mine, but is suggesting a maintenance and support contract which I'd like to avoid.
Easy solution Mike, suggest if she goes for your carpet maintenace contract you will go for theirs.
Just make sure ou carpet contract is worth more then theirs then you are on win-win ;)
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Joe
Brilliant idea! ;D
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How big are these thing? Are they easily transportable? If so would anyone be prepared to bring one along to the CCDO next year. Might be useful addition to the day which I can say is for the most part organised and with subject matter/speakers arranged
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Pete
An a4 one is not that much bigger than a printer, if a tad heavy.