Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ollie on April 30, 2008, 06:06:22 pm
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Do any other porty users just have water in their machines all the time? I was on a job two weeks ago and realised I hadnt put most of my solutions back in the van after its weekend cleanout, so i had to just prespray and use plain water. I left the prespray down for an extra 10 mins and the carpet came up lovely. Since then I havent used anything but just water on a variety of jobs and im amazed at the results. Just wondered if anyone else just uses water?
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I never put chemicals in the tank, the prespray and agitation does all the work unless using acid rinse or deodoriser.
John
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It depends on which pre spray you use. If you use a high alkaline pre spray you obviously need to neutralise with an acidic rinse. Certain pre sprays can be rinsed with just water, providing the carpet ends up with a neutral ph
Phil
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Ollie
Although I use a freshwater rinse myself on much of my work, it's not wise to do so with all pre-sprays.
The majority of pre-sprays are not free rinsing. This means that although a freshwater rinse may achieve the desired appearance, you may still be leaving a too high percentage of your detergent behind. This in turn may lead to accelerated resoiling amongst other potential problems.
My advice would be to follow the manufacturers instructions. If a rinse detergent is required, use it. A typical acidic rinse also contains detergents to help remove residues as well as reducing the alkalinity.
Most first and second generation micro splitter pre-sprays are free rinsing, also Spitfire Advanced, so freshwater is appropriate to these. Spitfire is conditional in that it requires quite hot water to rinse effectively.
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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One of my better selling points ;D
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Totally agree Chris. It works really well for me too 8)
Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
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Ken beat me as I was going to put a similar answer.
I use fresh water rinse on nearly all jobs ;)
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Spitfire ?
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Dry fusion stock it.
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Thanks all, I will order some spitfire. My question also stems from the fact that when my wand and handtool started leaking after 1 month Ashbys told me they teach only rinsing with fresh water and misting with an acid afterwards . They told me the acid wears away parts and would have caused my leaks if i had it in my tank. I never followed that advice until two weeks ago.
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I would agree with them Ollie, nowadays I never add anything to the tank. I have stopped using an acid rinse in the tank , instead I apply it by a sprayer. Powders are defenitely out too as since I stopped using using any in the tank, pumps just go on for ever and ever as before this six months per pump was about average.
I do sometimes mix ultimate master but use it in a sprayer in certain circumstances but will never, never use it in my solution tank again.
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Hi Guys
Ollie made a very good point in his original post about leaving his prespray longer to work.
In all the promotion of agiatation/MS /blah blah, it can be lost that detegents work by contact and time is important, thats why a washing machine cycle has soaking periods, otherwise it could be completed in 10 mins ;)
Knowing the right detergent to use and allowing it time to work can allow you to use a lightly charged rinse in your machine.
Cheers
Doug
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I still have the same pump in my machine that I bought in Oct 2005, and its still going strong. Only ever used water rinse in it.
tihson