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Title: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 27, 2008, 06:54:13 pm
I am on the look out for a newer van £4500 budget currently have a transporter been a good van though i think its time to buy something newer as its starting to show its age ! problem i have is trying to find a van thats not got intergalactic milleage and bodywork thats not shot aiming for something like vivaro/traffic/primastar or a transporter or a toyota hiace payload around 1000kg would be good any suggestions not keen on transits heard the newer ones not quite built like the old also has anyone had problems with any of the vans i've mentioned thanks  ;D
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: AJ on April 27, 2008, 08:33:53 pm
why not look at contract lease. about £250 + vat p/m for a Nissan Primastar. Initial payment of about £750 (or 3 times monthly payments). AA package, road fund paid, 10k miles p/a, 3 years man warranty, 100% tax deductable.
All it costs you on top is tyres and servicing. 3 years trouble free motoring.
I bought a 53reg trafic 18mths ago for £7000, already had new clutch, track rods, about £500 worth of work and a week or so off the road and only had 30k on the clock.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: alan andrewswestsi on April 27, 2008, 08:34:27 pm
got a 650 litre tank in a vivaro and it pulls well , had the van since september and no probs , nice drive would buy again regards alan
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on April 27, 2008, 09:03:19 pm
Just my two pennyworth's, if  you go for a contract hire, why not look at the new partner scudo, dispatch range, they are quite a good price most with a 1200kg!!! payload and 2 cargo doors.  Thats higher than the traffic primastar vivario offering.

Simon.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 27, 2008, 09:18:29 pm
can't do leasing at the mo. just a bit too much to be paying out. :'(
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: steve m on April 28, 2008, 08:22:29 am
Hi-ace are a grea van, only problem is they get boring as they never break down. Vivaro/primastar/traffic- new ones are pretty good but at your budget the gearboxes are iffy. Transits on your budget might be too old so you might want to stick with the transporter
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: paul mather on April 28, 2008, 08:47:18 am
Just done my first year in my Trafic. Bought it with 60K on the clock on an 04 plate. Spent just £100 on it for a new pedal sensor which put me off the road for a half a day. Not bad I reckon.

I have two tanks in the van with a combined capacity of a 1050 litres so I carry some serious weight, but it never shows any problems of taking the weight. I bought the 2.9 tonne version which gives you an extra payload of 1200 kg. I would also try & make sure to get the 6 gear model as it has about 20 more BHP.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: Paul Coleman on April 28, 2008, 08:54:43 am
I am on the look out for a newer van £4500 budget currently have a transporter been a good van though i think its time to buy something newer as its starting to show its age ! problem i have is trying to find a van thats not got intergalactic milleage and bodywork thats not shot aiming for something like vivaro/traffic/primastar or a transporter or a toyota hiace payload around 1000kg would be good any suggestions not keen on transits heard the newer ones not quite built like the old also has anyone had problems with any of the vans i've mentioned thanks  ;D

If you want a Vivaro/Trafic/Primastar, £4,500 would probably only buy one from the dodgy gearbox era.  This is a very real problem with these vans (mine went at 39,000 miles).  I would suggest either using that £4,500 as a good deposit on a much newer one or looking at another type of van altogether.  This is not to say that you will have a gearbox problem if you buy a slightly older one but they are very prone to this fault.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: JSMC on April 28, 2008, 09:34:44 am
I am on the look out for a newer van £4500 budget currently have a transporter been a good van though i think its time to buy something newer as its starting to show its age ! problem i have is trying to find a van thats not got intergalactic milleage and bodywork thats not shot aiming for something like vivaro/traffic/primastar or a transporter or a toyota hiace payload around 1000kg would be good any suggestions not keen on transits heard the newer ones not quite built like the old also has anyone had problems with any of the vans i've mentioned thanks  ;D

welcome to my world. i have been looking for something simialr and everything have space miles on them or they are just heaps of junk. I have just over 5k
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: paul mather on April 28, 2008, 09:46:30 am
I was in exactly the same situation 12 months ago. I set myself a budget of around 5K & to be honest it's not enough for the size of van we need. You either get newish vans that have over 100K on them or else older vans (X, Y, 01, 02 Reg) that have average mileage which still takes them to 70 or 80 K.

I decided that I had no choice but spend the extra & I'm glad I did. My van cost £7000 after the dreaded VAT & so far it's been worth every penny.

The other thing which I found a waste of time was trying to buy a van with no VAT. You end up buying either privately which has it's risks or buying from dodgy car dealers who advertise on Autotrader with just a mobile number. Drove 60 miles to look at a Vito, got there & quickly realised this guy was a gypsy, no thanks!!!
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 28, 2008, 10:26:37 am
anyone use a ford connect if i went for a 230 900kg payload could fit a reasonable tank in it. the garage i use said to said to stay away from vivaro/primastar/traffic because of gearbox problems  also new transits not much good either what age do the vivaro vans get better? he also said the vitos are full of very expensive problems so this leaves me at trying to find a transporter this van is top of the list problem being finding one as everyone thinks that their van is great even when its got 100000+ miles on the clock and still want top money usually well out of my budget
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: Paul Coleman on April 28, 2008, 11:14:07 am
anyone use a ford connect if i went for a 230 900kg payload could fit a reasonable tank in it. the garage i use said to said to stay away from vivaro/primastar/traffic because of gearbox problems  also new transits not much good either what age do the vivaro vans get better? he also said the vitos are full of very expensive problems so this leaves me at trying to find a transporter this van is top of the list problem being finding one as everyone thinks that their van is great even when its got 100000+ miles on the clock and still want top money usually well out of my budget

I did read (on here I think) that the gearboxes were to a better standard from 55 reg onwards.  Please don't take my word for that because I'm only quoting what someone else wrote and I've no idea of how reliable the info is.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on April 28, 2008, 12:21:21 pm
mate trait mk6 in a rear wheel drive is brilliant ythe vans are torqy and they have timing chains instead of belts ...mine is so robust.

i would go for one with that budget ..thats what i paid for mine 45000 / 2001 51 / full history / elec windows / cd / blue metalic

shawn
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: eddie d on April 28, 2008, 03:38:15 pm
ive had my hiace for 3 yrs and nothing at all has gone on it.great vans.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: steve m on April 28, 2008, 05:12:32 pm
go for a toyoto, 4K should get you a LWB or SWB on an 03/53 plate, but on that plate you wont get the 120bhp, only the 95bhp
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: Ian Lancaster on April 28, 2008, 06:05:48 pm
Fiat Ducato 1.9

1200 payload - good reliable van.  I got one 2 years ago, 04 plate, 34k miles, paid £6k inc vat

No gimmicks, basic looks, lot of van for your money
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 28, 2008, 08:28:30 pm
mate trait mk6 in a rear wheel drive is brilliant ythe vans are torqy and they have timing chains instead of belts ...mine is so robust.

i would go for one with that budget ..thats what i paid for mine 45000 / 2001 51 / full history / elec windows / cd / blue metalic

shawn

which van is that? I'm guessing you mean a transit ?
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: jewelcleaning on April 28, 2008, 08:45:21 pm
Tartan - Ie brother in law to matt?   ;) ;)
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: www.mrgutters.co.uk on April 28, 2008, 08:59:21 pm
yeah transit...sorry
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 29, 2008, 09:09:47 am
Tartan - Ie brother in law to matt?   ;) ;)

yes thats me
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: jewelcleaning on April 29, 2008, 09:18:32 am
Cool!  It's Jay here.

Hope you are well!
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: Moderator David@stives on April 29, 2008, 09:19:12 am
I had the same problem looking at transporters, everyone wanted top money. In the end I went straight to the VW dealers and bought what I really wanted, a transporter £18'000,             1400kg payload, twin sliding doors, all the goodies cruise control etc.

I have not regretted a single moment.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 29, 2008, 10:35:59 am
Cool!  It's Jay here.

Hope you are well!


funny that thought it might be you .

hows that caddy going ?
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 29, 2008, 10:37:29 am
I had the same problem looking at transporters, everyone wanted top money. In the end I went straight to the VW dealers and bought what I really wanted, a transporter £18'000,             1400kg payload, twin sliding doors, all the goodies cruise control etc.

I have not regretted a single moment.

yeah well i can dream ! not quite in my budget.
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: jewelcleaning on April 29, 2008, 11:03:38 am
Cool!  It's Jay here.

Hope you are well!


funny that thought it might be you .

hows that caddy going ?

Good thanks!  got the day off today.

Getting used to WFP, its good, but back pack is neck breaking.  Gonna get a tank soon.

I've had work thrown my way since getting the caddy, it gives a much better impression than the faithful, but beaten up old astra!

Don't spend all day on here!!  ;) ;D ;)

Hope to catch up properly soon.  Love to B.

J
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: ALAN HAYNES on April 29, 2008, 01:00:05 pm
i have a 2004 vito with 90000 miles on it .back in the dealer again second time this year going to cost anther 450 spent over 1500 hundred just before christmas just looking at getting a new van never had a new van
is this the way to go or newer second hand one.   
will never have a vito again
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 29, 2008, 01:06:39 pm
funny that my mechanic said don't touch a vito with a barge pole ! looks like he was right!
Title: Re: mission impossible a newer van
Post by: tartan cleaning on April 29, 2008, 01:07:59 pm
Cool!  It's Jay here.

Hope you are well!


funny that thought it might be you .

hows that caddy going ?

Good thanks!  got the day off today.

Getting used to WFP, its good, but back pack is neck breaking.  Gonna get a tank soon.

I've had work thrown my way since getting the caddy, it gives a much better impression than the faithful, but beaten up old astra!

Don't spend all day on here!!  ;) ;D ;)

Hope to catch up properly soon.  Love to B.



Yeah if i could only get as jammy a deal as you did ?