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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mustafa on April 26, 2008, 09:49:24 pm
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what pole is good everyday use domestic
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i use xtel 17ft, cheap, light, and about 5ft when collapsed down. ideal for downs.
in my opinion ideal for day in and out use
www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/special_offer.html (http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/special_offer.html)
doing a good deal at mo, £60 odd or summit
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My view is...Dont buy something just coz its cheap. I had one of those and I wouldn't use one again.
Wears out in a year, whippy like anything and you get splinters in the hand.
Go for sl-x.
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i like it! i think its great!
i have a sl2 so im not shy on spending money on poles!
but i really do like these poles!
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I would say the 17-18 ft X-tel four section pole is an ideal day to day working pole. Names vary according to who you buy from. They don't last long but you just chuck it away and buy a new one when it wears out. Or keep it as a spare.
Using a carbon or even a hybrid for routine stuff is just a waste. Keep one for best by all means.
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I've been making my own clampless poles for a while now. £26 for a 24' one! Its a bit whippy, and they don't last long,... but very fast in use, and at that price I don't mind replacing them every 3 or 4 months! They're made from telescopic flag poles from www.skyblueleisure.co.uk and just "flick" up to the desired height.
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what sl2 pole???any web site i can buy . i m thinking get tucker pole 18ft new clamps on in. what u think guys??
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what pole is good everyday use domestic
My vote would be, go for a 17ft Xtel cheap and light and will keep you going until you have got an idea of what's what.
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what sl2 pole???any web site i can buy . i m thinking get tucker pole 18ft new clamps on in. what u think guys??
What's the SL2 pole????
You mustn't be reading ANY of rupertthehair's posts!!!!!
www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk
Its only really for high work tho,.. an SLX would suit domestic work better, or even an Xtel until you have a better idea of what suits your work best.
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I'm slightly suprised at everyone saying 17-18ft?
I would go for something slightly longer, maybe 24ft.
Sometimes you need that extra bit of reach for example if the back garden slopes away from the house, 18ft doesnt quite reach.
Just my opinion though, 18ft will still get you to the vast majority of the 1st floor windows on domestic.
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i think SLX good to me has clamps on them SL2 no clamps on it is it?
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Is 17ft enough to get to windows above conservatories?
Arthur
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Click the link below to find the 3 reasons we need a new design of window cleaning pole.
www.homebiz4income.com/articles/Article/3-reasons-the-window-cleaner-need-a-new-designed-pole/3891
Peter
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Click the link below to find the 3 reasons we need a new design of window cleaning pole.
www.homebiz4income.com/articles/Article/3-reasons-the-window-cleaner-need-a-new-designed-pole/3891
Peter
Hi Peter, very interesting. Can i assume you've got a pole you could recommend?
Arthur
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Click the link below to find the 3 reasons we need a new design of window cleaning pole.
www.homebiz4income.com/articles/Article/3-reasons-the-window-cleaner-need-a-new-designed-pole/3891
Peter
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Now back to the 3 reasons.
1/ The poles on the market are time consuming to use.
2/ The poles on the market are no use at going from second storey window to ground floor windows.
3/ The poles on the market because of there long closed length are harder to carry around, and transport in your vehicle.
In my opinion the SL-X solves those problems easily.
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Click the link below to find the 3 reasons we need a new design of window cleaning pole.
www.homebiz4income.com/articles/Article/3-reasons-the-window-cleaner-need-a-new-designed-pole/3891
Peter
Hi Peter, very interesting. Can i assume you've got a pole you could recommend?
Arthur
Hi Arthur, you can see a version of it in action here...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM
There will be a much better version of it coming out at the end of June, with all the problems from the original version solved.
Peter
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Now back to the 3 reasons.
1/ The poles on the market are time consuming to use.
2/ The poles on the market are no use at going from second storey window to ground floor windows.
3/ The poles on the market because of there long closed length are harder to carry around, and transport in your vehicle.
In my opinion the SL-X solves those problems easily.
Of course, and carry on using it. The article you read is only for people who are having all of, or any of the 3 problems stated above, if you don't have any of the problems then that's fine, and if anyone reading does have the problems then they can contact me if they wish.
You did find it interesting enough to read at least half way, and I am glad about that. A lot of articles are not even read after the first paragraph.
Peter
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Is 17ft enough to get to windows above conservatories?
Arthur
yep
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what pole is good everyday use domestic
The Master Guild of Window Cleaners are giving away a 24' Hxtel to a lucky member shortly,.. might be worth looking at www.mgwc.org
;D ;D ;D
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nice pole peter, but how do you stop the brush from spinning when doing the bottoms??. And Mustafa had one of your poles and couldnt get on with it, cos I bought it off of him and now I'm having the same problem that when the pole is fully collapsed I cant stop the brush from spinning. Because of the way you hhave to hold the pole I cant fit a trigger and on the bottoms because the brush/section spins you cant knock off the autobrush
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Steve, you have some valid points, and there are ways around the problems you are experiencing. You can hold the hose tight when doing the bottoms, or you can use your hand to turn the brush on.
But because of the problems you mentioned, and the fact that people might not work out the problems themselves, I have sorted the new pole so the sections don't spin inside each other. It will also be much less flimsy in construction as well. This new version will be ready for the end of June.
Peter
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I'd certainly agree with Peter that most poles are impractical for ground floor windows. I've only been at it a few weeks and I'm sure that I must have deheaded quite a few tulips with the back end of my pole, and I suspect that quite a few garden gnomes were close to being decapitated.
I've attached a brush to a broom handle for downstairs windows. It works brilliantly, but I have to carry TWO poles instead of just one.
The obvious solution is to have poles made of a greater number of shorter sections. This will, of course, incease the complexity, cost and weight.
ANY engineering solution is a compromise.
I supose that our favourite pole is not much else than the compromise that suits the individual's needs best.
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Is 17ft enough to get to windows above conservatories?
Arthur
I use a pole of around 17 - 18ft to get above conservatories. I sometimes find that I need to get to some of it from a sideways angle though. On the odd occasions when it doesn't seem quite long enough, I just stand on a hop-up to reduce the angle.
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Just a footnote for anyone who may not have read the article the quotes were from. The points mentioned 1, 2, and 3
1/ The poles on the market are time consuming to use.
2/ The poles on the market are no use at going from second storey window to ground floor windows.
3/ The poles on the market because of there long closed length are harder to carry around, and transport in your vehicle.
Points 2 and 3 can easily be sorted with smaller, and more sections, which means more clamps, or more sections to push together, and in turn makes point 1 even more time consuming.
Peter
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This new version will be ready for the end of June.
Peter
I for one can't wait. I love clampless poles, and use them wherever possible.
And sneak previews of the MKII Peter?
Will it be aluminium?
What size will it be closed/ extended and how many sections will be used?
What weight will it be?
What's the expected price?
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I for one can't wait. I love clampless poles, and use them wherever possible.
And sneak previews of the MKII Peter?
Will it be aluminium?
What size will it be closed/ extended and how many sections will be used?
What weight will it be?
What's the expected price?
To start with they will be Glass Fibre, and later on a hybrid or carbon will be introduced if necessary.
The weight will be very favorable 2.6KG for 28 foot of pole.
The sections of the smallest pole will be 7x4' sections, 28' overall, obviously some will be left inside each other, but you will have a working height of 28 foot. The pole can be bought in any section lenghts you want, 5 foot, or 6 foot, but I wouldn't think you would want to go higher. You would have the disadvantage though of not having the just over 4 foot closed height. There will be extensions available later on to extend the 28 foot, by say another 10 foot if necessary.
The cost of the 28 foot I am hoping to price the same as the version just now, but it certainly won't be any dearer than similarly constructed clamped poles on the market.
Peter
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Hi peter , just wanted to thank you for advice here you are giving , and also on you website . I have just decided to go wfp , and your help is much appreciated, I am sure I will be purchasing some items from you soon . Cheers buddy ;D
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I for one can't wait. I love clampless poles, and use them wherever possible.
And sneak previews of the MKII Peter?
Will it be aluminium?
What size will it be closed/ extended and how many sections will be used?
What weight will it be?
What's the expected price?
To start with they will be Glass Fibre, and later on a hybrid or carbon will be introduced if necessary.
The weight will be very favorable 2.6KG for 28 foot of pole.
The sections of the smallest pole will be 7x4' sections, 28' overall, obviously some will be left inside each other, but you will have a working height of 28 foot. The pole can be bought in any section lenghts you want, 5 foot, or 6 foot, but I wouldn't think you would want to go higher. You would have the disadvantage though of not having the just over 4 foot closed height. There will be extensions available later on to extend the 28 foot, by say another 10 foot if necessary.
The cost of the 28 foot I am hoping to price the same as the version just now, but it certainly won't be any dearer than similarly constructed clamped poles on the market.
Peter
I cant seem to get the details and price of your clampless pole,
Ian
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Ian, www.window-tools.com, there is quite a bit of information about the pole linked to the site.
Peter
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Hi again Peter, any chance of just posting the prices please
Arthur
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£159 for the pole complete with Autobrush, and £7.50 delivery, plus VAT.
I have two versions at the moment, but it is really worth waiting o the new one at the end of June.
Peter
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£159 for the pole complete with Autobrush, and £7.50 delivery, plus VAT.
I have two versions at the moment, but it is really worth waiting o the new one at the end of June.
Peter
Thanks Peter, that sounds reasonable. Is that the 17ft one? Will the new ones be the same price?
Arthur
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any chance of an on-line catalogue or something as everytime I go on it theres never anything to see or to buy
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Ian, www.window-tools.com, there is quite a bit of information about the pole linked to the site.
Peter
Cheers for that Peter, I am having real trouble finding anything about poles on your site ::), can you add a link to the poles or email the details.
Ian
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£159 for the pole complete with Autobrush, and £7.50 delivery, plus VAT.
I have two versions at the moment, but it is really worth waiting o the new one at the end of June.
Peter
Thanks Peter, that sounds reasonable. Is that the 17ft one? Will the new ones be the same price?
Arthur
It is for a 24' pole, which is about 4' closed. Or I have a Universal 21' but that is about 7' closed. The Universal is much stronger, but has more weight, and dosn't close up as small.
I would rather wait and sell you one of the new ones when available. The new ones will hopefully be the same price. I have the price of the non turning sections sorted out, but I can't finalise the prices of the clamp-less fittings until I have the pole sections to hand. I can assure everyone though that they will not be any more expensive than an equivalent weighted glass fibre pole on the market at the moment. It won't be any heavier either.
Peter
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any chance of an on-line catalogue or something as everytime I go on it theres never anything to see or to buy
Steve I don't have, it is something I keep meaning to do though.
I would rather people ordered on the phone though, or at least spoke to me first so as I can explain a few things to them on the phone. I had them on eBay a while back, and I was amazed at the amount of people that phoned or emailed to say their pole wouldn't stay up, and where is the clamps.
Peter
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Cheers for that Peter, I am having real trouble finding anything about poles on your site ::), can you add a link to the poles or email the details.
Ian
Ian here is the link,
www.window-tools.com/new%20pole.htm
but I left something out when I made up the page and it dosn't display properly, but it will give you an idea.
Peter
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I for one can't wait. I love clampless poles, and use them wherever possible.
And sneak previews of the MKII Peter?
Will it be aluminium?
What size will it be closed/ extended and how many sections will be used?
What weight will it be?
What's the expected price?
To start with they will be Glass Fibre, and later on a hybrid or carbon will be introduced if necessary.
The weight will be very favorable 2.6KG for 28 foot of pole.
The sections of the smallest pole will be 7x4' sections, 28' overall, obviously some will be left inside each other, but you will have a working height of 28 foot. The pole can be bought in any section lenghts you want, 5 foot, or 6 foot, but I wouldn't think you would want to go higher. You would have the disadvantage though of not having the just over 4 foot closed height. There will be extensions available later on to extend the 28 foot, by say another 10 foot if necessary.
The cost of the 28 foot I am hoping to price the same as the version just now, but it certainly won't be any dearer than similarly constructed clamped poles on the market.
Peter
Can't wait Peter,.. keep us updated!
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Cheers for that Peter, I am having real trouble finding anything about poles on your site ::), can you add a link to the poles or email the details.
Ian
Ian here is the link,
www.window-tools.com/new%20pole.htm
but I left something out when I made up the page and it dosn't display properly, but it will give you an idea.
Peter
Thanks for that Peter.
And if you ever need any help on your site let me know.
Ian
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get yourself a tucker pole. a bit pricey in comparison, but for durability they can't be beaten i've been using mine for 6 yrs now and its still as good as new.
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get yourself a tucker pole. a bit pricey in comparison, but for durability they can't be beaten i've been using mine for 6 yrs now and its still as good as new.
Durability yes, rigidity wise it is the worst pole on the market.
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After using it for a bit now I can only recommed the SL-X, Luke
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what pole is good everyday use domestic
Mustafa, if you don't mind me asking how long did you use the pole you got from me before you sold it on?
Peter
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a month 8) and take u a month to send me.....
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i bought myself tucker pole now. brush is so good remove t dirt on glass etc. so easy not like other brushes