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Title: Vehicle security
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on April 09, 2008, 05:50:55 pm
Hi all

I will be getting myself a Prowler and new van shortly and am a little worried about van security. Is there any way to protect the contents of the van or stop anyone entering it whilst working in someone's home for instance.

What measures (if any) do you take?

TIA

John
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: richie on April 09, 2008, 05:59:34 pm
Hi John,
I have been using TMs since about 1993 and hve never had a problem with security when machine is in use.  It is unlikely for anyone to attempt to gain entry to the rear of your van whilst the machine is running.  The front of your van can be locked as normal so no problems there.  If you are that worried then try this.......have your prowler in use via the side door then have a cage fitted so that the rest of the van is secure from entry via the side door.  I have only seen this done once (many yeras ago).  Your van dealer may have these mesh cages or similar,  if not then go to a fabricator or you could make one or have one made from timber.  Easy to do.

Richie.
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: mark_roberts on April 09, 2008, 07:37:49 pm
Same as Ritchie although in some areas i will lock the back door.

You cold put an air vent above the machine and then keep the rear doors locked.  I think Hydramsater can do this although John Kelly could source it Im sure.

Mark
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on April 09, 2008, 07:43:11 pm
i have two roof spinners on the van so i can keep the rear doors locked
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: gwrightson on April 09, 2008, 09:38:45 pm
couldnt it be exausted through the floor ,
thats what i do so back doors are locked ,gaining entry through side takes some doing if the opening is blocked with a t/m , although the prowler is smaller in size , could you not fix something above the door opening leaving just the prowler showing?
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on April 09, 2008, 09:59:27 pm
You could put a hole in the step and feed your pipes through there, through the floor and out and tehn shut the door although you would need some fresh air in to stop the engine from choking although John could get you a manifold set which makes a better jon albeit at a cost.

Shaun
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: John Kelly on April 09, 2008, 10:35:56 pm
Divn't worry about it, I don't know anyone who's ever had a problem.
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: richie on April 10, 2008, 12:14:14 am
90% of the time i have the rear doors closed leaving just the side door open which is where the TM is situated.  During the hot summer months,  if on a customers drive will leave the rear doors open but if i cant get on customers drive or am on commercial job i will direct an air mover or paddle fan towards the TM just to aid air movement just in case.  Only once have i ever had a problem with a TM engine overheating,  this was a Kawaski water cooled engine,  I was outside a night club in Leeds parked on a slight slope,  the side door had 3/4 closed so the air in the back of the van just got steadily warmer (was a blistering hot day aswell).  The TM stoped, i went outside and found the engine had cooked.  Cost about £500 to repair the engine.

I know a company that had a Prochem Performer 405 mounted in a van that had 4 rotating vents on the roof.  They drilled through the floor of the van and had the vac / solution / water inlet connected to vac ports, pressure outlets & a water inlet mounted under the rear of the van along with TM exhaust outlet.  This was not done for security purposes though.  It was for the purpose of sound.  They were getting residents complaining of noise when cleaning commercial premises at night.  They also had the rear of the van sound proofed in some way. 
Richie. 
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on April 10, 2008, 09:07:25 am
guess im lucky this year if it get to hot ill just open the other side door and still leave the rears shut theres bugger all room to get in even when both doors are open
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: davep on April 10, 2008, 01:07:17 pm
Do truckmounters who work on there own worry about security? 
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: stevegunn on April 10, 2008, 02:25:58 pm
Never worried about it whats the most they could steal bottle of spotter.Only side door is open when I'm working just don't leave anything that would tempt them in the back.
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on April 10, 2008, 03:04:09 pm
Great replies as usual but watch me be the first to be 'had' LOL

Did 2 jobs yesterday that convinced me even more about getting a truckmount!
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: davep on April 10, 2008, 03:06:30 pm
What van are you putting your Prowler in?
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on April 10, 2008, 03:24:16 pm
Im looking at the Transporter at the moment - looks like a nice piece of kit
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: davep on April 10, 2008, 03:28:33 pm
Me too, you getting a used one?  They go forever
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on April 10, 2008, 03:54:03 pm
No mate was looking to lease one for around fifty quid a week. One small job should pay for ir. I wont need to worry about MOTs as its a 3 year plan
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: davep on April 10, 2008, 04:32:33 pm
Whos that with, i guess you cant sign write it?
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on April 10, 2008, 04:48:37 pm
Well I wasnt bothered about sign writing but I suppose you could go for hire purchase enabling you to sign write but Im not expert - I may be wrong. ill just go for the lease hire probably with these boys http://www.directcarsuk.com/Products.asp?CategoryID=23
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: gwrightson on April 10, 2008, 09:58:08 pm
I know that somebody swiped a vac from the back of m hallidays van one day,

Geoff
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: mark_roberts on April 10, 2008, 10:03:11 pm
£50 a week is cheap for a lease on a VW.

Just make sure the van is big enough for the TM and the porty and all the other bits you need and check the weight the van can carry as a lot of TM users are over weight.

Mark
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Buster Ingram on April 10, 2008, 10:16:31 pm
Best way to keep people out of your van while your working is to fill the side door so no one can get in ;D
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on April 10, 2008, 10:24:07 pm
I have a picture of Paul Moss in the back of my van it scares even me when I go and get a spotter or turbo out.

Shaun
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: davep on April 12, 2008, 08:31:44 pm
It is 375 pounds, think its just clamped in place
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: richie on April 12, 2008, 11:30:38 pm
I believe i recoginise that Prochem TM in your old van Dave.   

Richie.
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: John Kelly on April 12, 2008, 11:36:13 pm
The Navigator is a totally different machine to the Prowler as it utilises a waste tank with a submersible pump. I also believe it only runs 1 1/2 inch hose.
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Buster Ingram on April 14, 2008, 09:23:43 am
Your right Richie, its your old machine!
And still working to this day in Southampton. ;)
That old van of mine has seen some machine after the Prochem I had a Boxxer 421 fitted in it. And now 4 Years later I'm putting another Hydramaster machine in it, a  Spitfire 4.0.

If I'd of known Dave was selling his Chemspec I'd of held on and had it off him,  :'(  his machine is in mint condition.
 
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: richie on April 14, 2008, 11:30:42 pm
OMG Dave,  i thought you had sense.....why on earth have you bought a Spitfire 4.0?  Generally speaking HM make probably the best TMs however,  the Spitfire 4.0 was a BAD BAD  machine.

Richie.
Title: Re: Vehicle security
Post by: Buster Ingram on April 15, 2008, 11:47:18 pm
I like a challange.

Frankly Rich once you have ripped out all the electrics your left with an Engine, water pump and a Blower. Its far lighter than the Boxxer I had I know its not as hot as a Boxxer but for the type of work I'm looking for it will do the job nicely.
I want to clean carpets not make tea!