Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windowwashers on April 07, 2008, 06:57:09 pm
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been getting a wet leg leg from pole hose to tap,
any one else had this problem?
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Yes, its the PTFE tape mate. Unscrew it and wrap more PTFE tape around the thread and screw it back in. Make sure you wrap the tape clockwise so you dont unravel it, Luke
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Yes, its the PTFE tape mate. Unscrew it and wrap more PTFE tape around the thread and screw it back in. Make sure you wrap the tape clockwise so you dont unravel it, Luke
it is coming from the pole hose Luke, the ptfe is working fine.
pole hose is pushed on to a barb thats where it is leaking from, I got totally soaked today, before only a little bit but is taking the mick
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Or your pipes beginning to split around the insert. If it is get some spare 10mm olives ready and some spare inserts. That's if your using Gardiners valves.
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Or your pipes beginning to split around the insert. If it is get some spare 10mm olives ready and some spare inserts. That's if your using Gardiners valves.
there is no split, I didnt get them from alex, I was thinking something like a clamp, but unsure if you can get them for that size :-\
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Ohh, so could be you need some o rings or a jubille if you dont already have one, Luke
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You need these
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/oclips.jpg)
they are available in all sizes from Gardiners, Luke
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You need these
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/oclips.jpg)
they are available in all sizes from Gardiners, Luke
can you get the clips and pliers for these from alex ?
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Yes
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Hose_Clamps____O__Ring_Clips.html
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Yes
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Hose_Clamps____O__Ring_Clips.html
which are better the screw ones or the O clips ?
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Don't wear the tap on a holster on your hip/leg. Put it on the pole instead.
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I would say it doesnt matter, the jubilees dont go quite as small though I think, Luke
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I have had this before, its where the hose pushes onto the barb, its because whatever you are using to clamp the hose onto it, is not clamping all the way around, its squeezing onboth sides, but opening a gap for the high pressure water to spray out. I have used the O clip things but didnt like them much, i used the smallest jubilee i could find, but they may not be still in the right circular shape when tightened up to make smaller, so use some pliers to bend the jub clip round again before tightening. Also i would wrap ptfe tape thick around the outside of the hose where the jub clip would tighten on so it cushioned the hose and stopped the same thing happening.
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I have had this before, its where the hose pushes onto the barb, its because whatever you are using to clamp the hose onto it, is not clamping all the way around, its squeezing onboth sides, but opening a gap for the high pressure water to spray out. I have used the O clip things but didnt like them much, i used the smallest jubilee i could find, but they may not be still in the right circular shape when tightened up to make smaller, so use some pliers to bend the jub clip round again before tightening. Also i would wrap ptfe tape thick around the outside of the hose where the jub clip would tighten on so it cushioned the hose and stopped the same thing happening.
Cheers for that ;)
Ian
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You need these
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/oclips.jpg)
they are available in all sizes from Gardiners, Luke
can you get the clips and pliers for these from alex ?
Ian don`t buy a separate O ring,go onto essentially pures website and order a O ring kit,you`ll get about 15 rings + pliers + micro-minibore connectors for about 25-£30.
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Or go on Ebay, buy a packet of fifteen for about six quid and use a pair of two quid nail pincers. :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5-16-7-9mm-O-CLIPS-2-EAR-CLAMPS-ZINC-PLATED-HOSE_W0QQitemZ290200744243QQihZ019QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
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Or go on Ebay, buy a packet of fifteen for about six quid and use a pair of two quid nail pincers. :)
:'( :'( :'( :'( fair enough i`ll give you that one. ;D ;D ;D
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Buy yerself some pincers from B&Q or your local hardware shop. I will post you a couple of o rings.
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If you want a really leak free seal then these are the ones to use:
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/O_Clips_Inner_Ear.jpg)
Inner ring ensures a perfect seal.
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Hi Alex i need a 500ltr upright tank that is leak free,it needs to be the same size as 2x250 tanks butted together so that it fits into my frame,i beleive the flat tank style lids don`t leak.Any idea on price please.
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Hi Alex i need a 500ltr upright tank that is leak free,it needs to be the same size as 2x250 tanks butted together so that it fits into my frame,i beleive the flat tank style lids don`t leak.Any idea on price please.
If you mean a custom built one then you will be looking at about £360 + £20 delivery (very rough quote!) The 8" lids on the custom really do not leak at all.
One of our vehicles is kitted out with a standard flat 500 litre tank with a vented lid that does not leak. We tape up the vent inside and just put a pin-prick in the tape, that's all you need to stop the tank imploding and still no leaks.
The standard 500 Litre upright on our site is not quite the same size as 2x 250litre tanks, also its got the different lid.
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How long would it take to get one and will it fit snug in the frame.
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How long would it take to get one and will it fit snug in the frame.
Which the custom or the standard 500 upright?
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The custom one,the one that dosen`t leak i`m getting water running into the footwells it`s that bad.
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Apologies Moderators that we have gone off topic :(
The custom one,the one that dosen`t leak i`m getting water running into the footwells it`s that bad.
7-9 working days to be made and delivered. It can be made to your exact specifications so that it fits perfectly inside your current frame. What you will need to do is to draw out a diagram of the tank required with the outer dimensions, also draw where you want the lid and the outlet (or multiple outlets if you want) also a sight level gauge is a good idea as the tanks are opaque. This level gauge is basically two elbows out with a length of clear hose fitted between.
Here is an idea of what one of mine looks like, this is a 380 litre tank- the far left outlet is where my elbow to the pump is screwed in and the other two holes have elbows screwed in with clear hose between-
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it could also simply be the fact that either the male or female fitting on the easi-snap /schrader whatever is worn
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Good to see that you are sticking with the Topic :)
I suspect that if ww has no type of fitting clip that using one of whatever type will resolve the issue.
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Alex i will give you a call tomorrow about the tank,thanks.
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Alex i will give you a call tomorrow about the tank,thanks.
Give me a ring on my personal number which is on the email I have just sent you.
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Hi Alex i need a 500ltr upright tank that is leak free,it needs to be the same size as 2x250 tanks butted together so that it fits into my frame,i beleive the flat tank style lids don`t leak.Any idea on price please.
Dont hijack my post NHW >:(.
Bod, you are a star m8, thanks for the offer ;)
Ian
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sorry Alex, but every time i click your web site, i cant open it WHY?
Best Regards
Bosh
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sorry Alex, but every time i click your web site, i cant open it WHY?
Best Regards
Bosh
A few others have had this problem, I think it was something to do with Proxy Server settings. I will try and look up what someone found worked. :)
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Going back to the original topic, Hyphose supply and fit excellent sleeves. Not as cheap but only about £1. They are totally sealed and dont catch on anything.
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Got even more soaked today.
it is not the hose it is the connections from tap to hose
you cant tighten them up and it leaks like hell.
I remember someone on here a while ago saying they had this problem.
I tried my other pole on it and the connection would not lock ::)
Maybe I have two difference fittings even though they come from the same place :-\
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Undo the the bolt on the shrader fitting if there is one and cover the thread in plumbers tape,i did this on the backpack when i first got it and it solved the problem.
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Undo the the bolt on the shrader fitting if there is one and cover the thread in plumbers tape,i did this on the backpack when i first got it and it solved the problem.
it is not the tread m8, I have ptfe'd the treads it is not coming from there, when you click the two together----0 it is coming from there
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Sounds like you have a dodgy minibore connector,i`ve had the odd 1 leak but there mainly the copies.
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Sounds like you have a dodgy minibore connector,i`ve had the odd 1 leak but there mainly the copies.
will change that in a bit, and try another, I would not know if they are copies to be honest they look the same.
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Look inside the top of it,the bearings are smaller and of better quality you can instantly see the difference.
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Look inside the top of it,the bearings are smaller and of better quality you can instantly see the difference.
so if they are smaller they are better or bigger is better ??
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The good quality ones have smaller bearings on the inside i`m sure of it,i`ll bet the one your having trouble with is the one with the larger bearings,the bearings over a little time also stay retracted and this causes the water to keep coming out the end of the hose even when you`ve unplugged.
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ian do you have males or females on pole hose ???
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ian do you have males or females on pole hose ???
females
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same as me and opposite of most people ;Di bet the female needs replacing
i prefer females on pole hose but they seem to wear quicker that way
look on wcw website ,they do females with a brass tail and the female is detatchable so can be cleaned to extend life and easier to replace,buy tail and female first then in future you just buy new females and repllace them
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same as me and opposite of most people ;Di bet the female needs replacing
i prefer females on pole hose but they seem to wear quicker that way
look on wcw website ,they do females with a brass tail and the female is detatchable so can be cleaned to extend life and easier to replace,buy tail and female first then in future you just buy new females and repllace them
That`s what i meant when i said undo the bolt,you can just undo the bolt on those types and replace the female part.
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same as me and opposite of most people ;Di bet the female needs replacing
i prefer females on pole hose but they seem to wear quicker that way
look on wcw website ,they do females with a brass tail and the female is detatchable so can be cleaned to extend life and easier to replace,buy tail and female first then in future you just buy new females and repllace them
I have just replaced the female about 2 weeks ago, first day was fine, about a week fine, this week been dripping a little now my trousers are totally soaked including my shoe today.
I carry on anyway, but I want to sort this out as I know it is not right and not good for prolonged use
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The good quality ones have smaller bearings on the inside i`m sure of it,i`ll bet the one your having trouble with is the one with the larger bearings,the bearings over a little time also stay retracted and this causes the water to keep coming out the end of the hose even when you`ve unplugged.
ian the key phrase in this post is "good quality" nwh is right that tey vary a lot ,i have had some that went breasts up inside a 3 weeks and others that are still fine after several months just buy one and try it ,if nothing else it will eliminate another possible cause of the problem :)
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The good quality ones have smaller bearings on the inside i`m sure of it,i`ll bet the one your having trouble with is the one with the larger bearings,the bearings over a little time also stay retracted and this causes the water to keep coming out the end of the hose even when you`ve unplugged.
ian the key phrase in this post is "good quality" nwh is right that tey vary a lot ,i have had some that went breasts up inside a 3 weeks and others that are still fine after several months just buy one and try it ,if nothing else it will eliminate another possible cause of the problem :)
my problem is I dont know if they are cheap or quality, I have a bag full of loads of different ones, some from freedom, one from alex and some from wintecs, all look the same to me
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have a look here
www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/products/microbore-fittings.html
sorry if it dont work but iam total luddite with computers :)
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best to stick with the genuine German made items. I have come across several window cleaners who have bought cheaper copies and have had serious reliability problems.
On a personal note I find it far better to have the male end on the pole hose, they seem to last forever (slight exaggeration!)
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best to stick with the genuine German made items. I have come across several window cleaners who have bought cheaper copies and have had serious reliability problems.
On a personal note I find it far better to have the male end on the pole hose, they seem to last forever (slight exaggeration!)
alex,
what price are the male screw onto tap and the female for pole hose delivered ?
Ian
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We do not keep the male screw into tap fittings in stock. :(
We can order them in for you if you want, they are about £2 each. The female fittings with 6mm hose barb are on our website:
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/EZ-Snap_Range.html
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Sortewd the problem it was the male fitting, dont know why, I changed it and problem solved ::) look the same as the others I have yet does not sit right (strange)
Cheers for all the input everyone.
Least I know now the answer and maybe others having this problem it can help aswell.
Ian