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Title: pains
Post by: Temple cleaning services on April 03, 2008, 04:20:45 pm
hi,ive been trad 4 5 years just changed to wfp this week,normaly after a hard day on ladders the back of my neck aches,but its ten times worse with the wfp,because of constant looking upwards,and i also get a sore shoulder sometimes,i use a 18ft fiberglass pole,any1 else hav these problems? also how much lighter would a carbon pole be?
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Post by: frames to panes on April 03, 2008, 04:31:49 pm
Welcome to the pole  ;) It takes some getting used to but your muscles do adapt after a few weeks. A carbon pole is much lighter and does make a big difference when stretching over conservatory roofs. For sixty quid you could adapt a carbon fishing pole but it would be delecate. If you have the money wait a couple of weeks? for Gardiners new telescopic carbon pole. ;)
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Post by: d s windowcleaning on April 03, 2008, 04:34:22 pm
a carbon pole would be a lot lighter , ive just got a 24 foot facelift which is lighter than the 18 ft fiberglass , as for the pain in your neck and speaking from experiance after having neck surgery extending your neck backwards for periods of time will cause pain there is some simple exercises that you can do to ease this . when i get back in later i will scan them and post them on chat section for you to have a look at .
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Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 03, 2008, 04:42:10 pm
Thanks Dave, I'm interested in those exercises too. :)
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Post by: Temple cleaning services on April 03, 2008, 04:52:30 pm
yeh thanx dave and djw 4 your replys!
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Post by: d s windowcleaning on April 03, 2008, 05:59:22 pm
i hope these are ok for you do between 5 &10 reps of each exercise twice a day
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Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 03, 2008, 06:41:59 pm
Fantastic, thanks a lot for that. :)
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Post by: dd on April 03, 2008, 06:48:27 pm
I found doing some yoga exercises helped when I started wfp. Don't do them so often now but they did seem very beneficial for reducing various aches.
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Post by: dave0123 on April 03, 2008, 06:49:33 pm
When i started the other month i had the same.

Sore neck mussles and arms because your using muscles you dont normaly use, i did notice my legs to be alot better after a days work on ladders sometimes they would ache and stuff.

anyway to the point now after a few weeks using the pole iv got used to it and i find im gettin less aches and stiffness!  and feel alot better and the end of the day! i use a 27ft hybird for all my work.
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Post by: frames to panes on April 03, 2008, 06:50:21 pm
Anyone notice their body shape has changed? I seem to have developed bigger arms and shoulders since poleing last year. Mind you i've grown in other areas too. ;D
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Post by: jouk45 on April 03, 2008, 07:52:25 pm
in  the meantime buy ibubrofen tablets from the chemist as they are inflamitorys and painkiller in one, or you will end up like me of for two weeks with a torn muscle in my arm  ;D
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Post by: Temple cleaning services on April 03, 2008, 08:18:02 pm
cheers every1 and thanx for the exercises!! :D
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Post by: brett walker on April 03, 2008, 10:52:35 pm
For any aches and pains try tiger balm you can get it from boots or most chemists its £5 for a little pot its good stuff

Brett
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Post by: ronnie paton on April 03, 2008, 11:00:21 pm
iv been poling 3 years and my neck aches are getting worse i have good muscles has i go gym 3 times a week but its natural to be lookin up all day!
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Post by: trevor perry on April 04, 2008, 07:29:06 am
the aches i think are generally down to muscle fatigue , some have said they go to the gym yet still get pains that is because their muscles are not being trained for endurance but rather for strengh if you check this website at www.fitness4x4.com and watch the video you will see what i mean, they sell a training video that shows you how to achieve this upper body endurance and believe me it works, i can now hold 20kg in each hand and put them above my head for 300 reps without stopping so when i use a watere fed pole even a heavy 60ft one i dont ache or anything even if used for a long time
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Post by: dai on April 04, 2008, 10:20:20 am
Joints feel it too, tennis elbow flares up now an again. My elbow feels like I  banged my funny bone five minutes ago. The slightest touch on the part that's sore feels like an electric shock.
Gave myself the day off, should be right by Monday. Dai
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Post by: geefree on April 04, 2008, 05:00:08 pm
i have a pain in my left shoulder...(right handed)....  and what feels like a small lump of grissle about the size of a pea...since wfp.
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Post by: Tosh on April 04, 2008, 05:09:17 pm
I'm 38 years old, so knocking on a bit; not as much as Gilesy whose nearly dead (I'm poised to take his round once he kicks the bucket) but I use the 'Working Class' method of dealing with aches, pains and lumps.

This basically involves doing nothing; just cracking on with work like you normally do, and hope for the best.

I'll let you know in a few years if I've been successful or not.

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Post by: geefree on April 04, 2008, 05:12:10 pm
"I'm 38 years old, so knocking on a bit; not as much as Gilesy whose nearly dead  "

 ;D ;D
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Post by: geefree on April 04, 2008, 09:16:32 pm
has anyone else got any grissle on shoulder blade .. am worried now lol
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Post by: frames to panes on April 04, 2008, 09:26:49 pm
Nope, just muscle bound.
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Post by: NWH on April 04, 2008, 09:31:20 pm
If you stand back slightly further from the window you`ll find it easier,if your getting a ache in your neck and you`ve been poleing for a while you`ll probobly find this will help.As for when you start WFP i found that i had incredible achey shoulders and neck muscles for months,the best thing i found to do was to relax when using the pole and try not to tense up as this only adds to the tension on the muscles.
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Post by: d s windowcleaning on April 04, 2008, 09:53:32 pm
HAVE YOU EVER TOLD YOUR DOCTOR WHAT YOU DO OTHER THAN CLEAN WINDOWS , NOT MANY DOCTORS NO ABOUT WFP .
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Post by: Wayne Thomas on April 05, 2008, 12:20:35 am
It helps to take a short break once you're starting to feel achy from neck/shoulder/arm strain, because you're overdoing it or using the wrong technique or standing too close.  Shake off the pain with a bit of gentle stretching/relaxing exercises on the affected areas.
Using lighter/stiffer poles minimises these strains too.
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Post by: oasisdweeb on April 05, 2008, 11:06:16 am
hi,mike.met u the other day with brett.hows your week been.bet youve been sleeping well.as the months goes by it does get a bit easier on your arms.it will be yer feet next for whenever yer tripping over yer hose reel.