Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Neil Grainger on April 01, 2008, 05:15:07 pm
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Just had to go to Alltec because my water pump went bang, great service from the guys as usual, just a call andthey said come along today.
Also looked at their new Portable that is replacing the Advantage, looks really good and comes with pump options of 100psi 200psi and 600psi, thats given me pause for thought. Makes the Ninja look like a cheap hire machine.
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Alltec seem to have a love/hate relationship with most people, personally i think their great, always a helpful and good service.
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Great at the Customer service but are a bit pricey, costs seem to have gone up alot but you do get what you pay for with them.
Robert was blooding in his next set of Anthea recruits, this is the side I am not sure about. It the same stuff that i had when i did Fast Trak but at twice the price and with the added bonus ??? of Mrs Turner.
New machine looks great and finally has the power to match and better a lot of other portables.
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Hi Guys
I have found the machine servicing guys to be very good on several occaisions, I would rather pay and have it fixed quickly than save a few pounds and get rubbish service.
As I do not go in for the sales side can't comment.
Cheers
Doug
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What new machines are they then Neil? Surely not the Olympus machines that they've had for a couple of years now? I cant find anything on their site - bit odd if their trying to sell them ???
Kev
p.s. Its about time they bought something out new, and I have to agree the quality of their machines is second to none. Is their heat exchangers on them at all?
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Launched at carpex, its a new Advantage with all new bells and whistle's, I have an advantage but this looks miles better and with the pumps available will push it into the top end of the portable market. Its called the advance.
It has pretty much the same shell as the advantage but also has a lot of different looks about it. 600psi pump looks good and it cost in the region of £2400, hard floor cleaning will be a good add on with this machine.
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NEIL just remember LOOKS arnt everything :o :o :o :o :o
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Does it rely on a heater element?.....ZZzzzz Or are there heat exchangers?
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No built in heat exchanger
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only differance apart from LOOKS is bigger range of pump pressures
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HHmmmm
Just found this http://www.alltec.co.uk/contentbuilder/layout.php3?contentPath=content/00/01/21/04/84/userdirectory163.content#1.0
It is basically an Advantage but with a very slightly different body shape and up to 600psi pump, even the vacs are the same. So apart from the look & pump thats it. And there was me thinking that it would be at the top of the portable range in this industry in terms of power/performance ::)
No heat exchangers
No CFM figures (are the vacs as powerful as say the Mytee?)
No autofill?
Come on Alltec, there is still a market for top end portables and with their quality builds they will sell easily. But NOT these IMO - purely cos of the spec.
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yes they do autofill and auto dump but its an optional extra.
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Dont forget, Alltec have been there before with the big, porty - big tanks, and quad vacs. There just wasnt a market for it, so it was dumped.
Personally, I have always had fantastic service from them, I deal with other top suppliers too, and Alltec is second to none in my experience.
Dave.
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all rthe guys at Alltec are great, what chris dosent know about the mechanics is'nt worth knowing, all the bloke are really helpful and a big thanks to dennis who got me out of a minor problem last week
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Cant say enough about the help from Chris, Peter and the team...Fantastic. ;)
PS:-And everyone loves Robert ;D
PPS: I added the PS because according to my Fast Track training, everyone looks at a PS! :o
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Don't think anyone was saying anything bad about staff engineers etc just that the only thing new about the NEW portie was bigger pump choice ;) ;)
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Nail on the head Tony.
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Hi
Can you tell me what else a porty needs then to make it a good one, I have always been happy with my advantage but have felt the only other thing it needs is more power in the pump department.
I would love to know and I would imagin so would Alltec.
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Are you serious Neil?
Having the most powerful porty available and easiest to use will make someones life a lot easier - yes or no?
The Advantage is a beautiful machine, well built and wil last forever. Will it clean better than more poweful porty's - no!
Its all very well having a more powerful pump, but the vac's are the same as ususal (as per Pro Plus then Advantage now Advance), so you then have to have more dry passes to cope.
If the custy's water isnt very hot - you have to wait for it to warm up via a kettle type element.
Because the vac's are not the most poweful, you can only go as far as 50ft on the hoses, so most jobs you have to take it in - instead of leaving it in the van saving time.
Im not saying the Advantage/Advance is bad - it isnt, it's just not top spec interms of power. We are not talking about the quality of a 'good' portable or the people who work there as they are very helpful.
Hope this clarifies things
Kev
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Whats wrong with the Lamb 3 stage motors in parallel, please explain to me because I dont have a problem with over wetting on any job I have done.
Interested because I must have fallen for Alltec's comment: Twin Lamb 3 stage 145mm in Parallel For greater Airflow 'Dont be fooled by water lift and Airflow'
I also use this on 75ft of hose when needed and have never had a problem. Have you had one of their machines as I would understand more if you have.
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Er, yes Neil.
The Pro Plus - which is the SAME as the Advantage/Advance. Superb machine except down on power in all areas which is what I have been saying ::) And since changing a couple of years ago have noticed a big improvement in performance and results compared to that machine.
You know there are other machines out ther that will give you better lift & better heat, 2 major benefits in my opinion. Also autofill - because you have to keep filling with buckets this drags a job on unecessarily which doeant help when your in a hurry.
Try not to use the rose coloured lenses - there are other manufacturers about that can benefit your business aswell.
Kev
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I know their are others companies out their selling good equipment but do not have a problem with the advantages airflow.
I can only say it as I see it, what temp do you clean at for the elements to take so long to heat the water, plenty of products out their that dont need super heated water. These machines come with Auto Fill and Auto dump as well but they are an extra cost.
Even if you need hot water their is plenty to do whilst you are waiting for the water to heat up so i have never had a problem waiting for the water to get to temp.
Not really major issues with the machine as I see it but for the money and the unquestionable customer service its worth it for me and the refferals I am getting tell me that its upto the task.
Kev what machine do you use?
Anyway its friday and 19 degrees and I sitting in the garden after a hard mornings work having a beer.
Have a good weekend.
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....what temp do you clean at for the elements to take so long to heat the water
I dont have to wait for the temp to warm up as I dont use that system anymore! We use Mytee's to great effect which have 2 x inline heat exchangers. There's nothing worse than getting to a job and find that the custy has used all their hot water >:(
Because we have a 250ltr tank fitted aswell we hardly ever have to fill up on the job unless its a penthouse ;). We will hopefully upgrade again later on in the year to a Prowler.
As Ive said in my earlier posts, I think their machines are fantastic quality but need the extra oomph to make them unbeatable IMO.
Having a beer in the garden sounds like a good idea Neil - think I'll do the same ;D
Kev
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dave lee, i remember that machine well, the millennium; 100 ltr solution, 77 ltr waste, 4 x lamb 3 stage vac's, in-line heat exchanger 100'C, 70kg's, auto fill & empty, plus dual wand capability. cost back then £3999- i love alltec, they have great machines & very good help/sales, i done alot of my course's there. C.C.S.
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forgot one little detail! it was 400psi. C.C.S.
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If its more power you want, then you all know the obvious answer - Truck Mount.
I went from a Prochem Cheyanne 2 and a Pro Plus to an entry level TM, a Steamway Sidekick, and recently to a Thermal Wave 2. There comes a time when you do want more power than can be provided by a porty, when this time comes, there s only one way to go.
Dave.
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Kev
What do you use ?
do all three stage motors produce same performance
What would you have like to see in the advance.