Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jason Atwell on March 29, 2008, 08:05:29 pm
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I am probably 80% traditional, using wfp for high and awkward windows, basically through a di bottle and customers outside tap.
For my traditional work, i carry four old 5 litre detergent bottles filled with tap water so i always have water through the day.
Iv read before about people using pure water for traditional work.
Will this really make any difference?
Wont the detergent your putting in, simply 'pollute' the pure water taking away any advantage over tap water.
thanks
jason
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All water I use is pure, cant see the point of using tap water anymore.
Pure is cleaner than tap water so will make a difference how ever small.
I use gg4 with it, dont use sticky fairy anymore
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I use window cleaning warehouse's own detergent, window shine i think its called.
I can see the theory behind the pure water possibly working, but is the difference actually visable?
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I use gg4 with it, dont use sticky fairy anymore
I thought gg4 was for hard water and gg3 is for soft water..
Does it not matter which you use then for pure water?
Bazz...
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i still use tapwater for trad ,pre mixed in a 20 ltr drum with squegee off
is it just me or does anyone else find that pure tends to snag ???
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traditional window cleaning....bucket of hot water from customer squirt of fairy on your mop hey presto..WORKS EVERYTIME! ;)
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i cant really tell a diffrance when using pure for trad , ive been using ecover wasing up liquid for the last few weeks and this dont send the tds up much . like l.j.thorpe says it dos tend to snag .
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pure will really dry your hands out, it is really aggresive. I used it in the summer and it caused my hands to crack and they became rough.
No probs with tap water, leave it for WFP if you ask me.
Regards
Adam
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pure will really dry your hands out, it is really aggresive. I used it in the summer and it caused my hands to crack and they became rough.
No probs with tap water, leave it for WFP if you ask me.
Regards
Adam
damn right i never had probs with dry skin on my hands before wfp(jesus how gay does this sound ::) :-*)but since november i have almost permanent splits in the skin on thumbs and fingers,never seem to heal properly,better in summer for some reason
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For trad i tend to use customers own hot water, hot works better than cold and I use fairy also. But I carry two bottles, one watered down for application to the wet applicator, saves messing about applying small amounts of neat and then lathering up in bucket, Straight in bucket with applicator and a squirt down the length with the ready made solution then straight ont'tat glass, squeegeed off with pulex soft used at 14" followed by a steaming mug of tea.
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for any trad work i do for the past 2 yrs ive used pure water and squeegy off
Brett
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pure will really dry your hands out, it is really aggresive. I used it in the summer and it caused my hands to crack and they became rough.
No probs with tap water, leave it for WFP if you ask me.
Regards
Adam
damn right i never had probs with dry skin on my hands before wfp(jesus how gay does this sound ::) :-*)but since november i have almost permanent splits in the skin on thumbs and fingers,never seem to heal properly,better in summer for some reason
wear gloves, I get the same problem, I have about 9 pairs of gloves got another pair today, I still can find the right ones and take them off I will keep trying.
tend to get most splits on top of right thumb and index finger.
Ian
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Same here with the thumb I have started using latex gloves with Unger ones over the top.
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I use pure and squeegee off because the only water I carry is pure. With pure you get very good results if you just put a drop of squeegee off in the bucket. You only need a drop because it suds up a lot better than with tap water.
You have to remember I live and work in the London area and the tap water is awful.
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personally i dont think it matters with trad
i used pure and squeege off IF i cant get some hot from the customer
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I use pure in my bucket and use Evans High Class Hard Surface cleaner as a detergent. Leaves no residue behined in the glass unlike Fairy Liquid ( I havent used that for 5 years or more)
As regarding pure water snagging I havent noticed. I do think the windows stay cleaner for longer with pure in your bucket even with the detergent.
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Makes no difference at all.
Don't listen to people trying to make you all technical. ::)
Tap water, fairy, job done, piece of cake. ;)
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Squeeky is right it makes absoulutely no difference at all , by putting any detergent into pure water it becomes inpure , (that is as technical as you need!)
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Makes no difference at all.
Don't listen to people trying to make you all technical. ::)
Tap water, fairy, job done, piece of cake. ;)
do you get probs with wfp spots after using dish cleaning fairy ::)
No. ???
its not technical if you think about it, pure will give a cleaner finish thats just a fact :P
If you want. ::)
You're just wasting it because you think it's magic water.
Put any detergent in it, and it's impure. Doh!
Ian
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...you are both wrong think about what you are saying there, tap water has many solids in it, pure have 0, thats is not to hard to understand, I know putting gg4 in it will raise tds but not as much as tap water and gg4 ;) there for pure gives better result!
But think about this and realise you're wrong... ;)
You're not leaving the water on there, so it doesn't matter if it pure or not.
You could do it with brown water, and as long as it's all squeegeed off the finish is the same.;D
Don't beleive the hype. ;)
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lol you make me die, why are you wfp or a window cleaner because you come across as you hate wfp and trad seems a little better everything is a downer for one reson or another.
1:We're not talking wfp.
2:I wasn't on the downer, I was the one who said tap water is fine.
what you use does make a difference, if you dont know this (and I think your on a wind up) then you need to really take a little more notice in the trade that you are in.
If you think you could make a window look better because the water is different then I'd prove it to you any time.
just to make it clear as you may not know this, when you squeege off water that is visable to the eye you leave a film on the glass also on/in the sills if you clean all of it.
Yes I do know that, but the result is the same to the eye, and that's what the customer is paying for.
Once you put detergent in the water it isn't pure anyway.
with pure (I am not going to say it again as it is starting to do my head in that you cant see the point I am making)
You're a salesman's dream. ;D
Ian
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lol you make me die, why are you wfp or a window cleaner because you come across as you hate wfp and trad seems a little better everything is a downer for one reson or another.
1:We're not talking wfp.
2:I wasn't on the downer, I was the one who said tap water is fine.
what you use does make a difference, if you dont know this (and I think your on a wind up) then you need to really take a little more notice in the trade that you are in.
If you think you could make a window look better because the water is different then I'd prove it to you any time.
just to make it clear as you may not know this, when you squeege off water that is visable to the eye you leave a film on the glass also on/in the sills if you clean all of it.
Yes I do know that, but the result is the same to the eye, and that's what the customer is paying for.
Once you put detergent in the water it isn't pure anyway. it is better than tap water you need to look at what you are using more it has nothing in it and when you put the say gg4 in yes it is not pure but it is still better than tap water, and I was not talking about wfp I was talking about trad and it is better to use pure water and say gg4 than tap and gg4 squeaky you really dont know much about window cleaning this way do you ::)
with pure (I am not going to say it again as it is starting to do my head in that you cant see the point I am making)
You're a salesman's dream. ;D
Ian
My point is it does a better job as i said at first, and will also make the window stay cleaner for longer meaning less work for the window cleaner on return.
I am a sales man and a window cleaner, I just dont look on the negative of everything there is a difference. ;)
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"and will also make the window stay cleaner for longer meaning less work for the window cleaner"
and why would you want that ;D
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"and will also make the window stay cleaner for longer meaning less work for the window cleaner"
and why would you want that ;D
beacuse I am paid to keep windows clean, not dirty for half the time ;)
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I wouldn't say the tap water round here is OK. If i lived in some of the places you guys do then maybe.
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I wouldn't say the tap water round here is OK. If i lived in some of the places you guys do then maybe.
Doesn't matter squat if it's squeegeed off.
Try it with muddy brown water.
You won't see any difference in result. ;)
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I wouldn't say the tap water round here is OK. If i lived in some of the places you guys do then maybe.
Doesn't matter squat if it's squeegeed off.
Try it with muddy brown water.
You won't see any difference in result. ;)
Squeaky, I dont just clean my customers windows to last while I am there, then that maybe where I am different. ::)
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Squeaky, I dont just clean my customers windows to last while I am there, then that maybe where I am different. so if its going to rain you dont go out because the windows will get dirty again before you even get paid.
bertie
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sorry about how that turned out , i was commenting on w/washers reply.
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Give it a rest guys, this is going nowhere!
Steve a